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They did when they encouraged Tory supporters to pay to become Labour members and vote him in – because they thought he would sink Labour.

IT DIDN’T WORK.

You what? It couldn’t have worked better! The labour party is now a completely unelectable, impotent shambles that is about to lose yet another election to a chaotic government led by a far right narcissist. Not only that… its in the process of purging anyone who doesn’t worship at the alter of St Jeremy in a bid to make themselves even less electable. The front bench are gang of utterly incompetent, anonymous placard-wavers

So how do you define that as a success? Go on….

It’s not that Corbyn is unpopular from any frame other than the MSM’s reporting.

He has the lowest approval rating ever recorded for a leader of the opposition. Far worse than Iain Duncan Smith or Michael Howard. Thats not the fault of the press, thats the fault of Jeremy Corbyn

You Corbynites really do need to re-engage with the real world

The tory press have done a right number on you Binners. 😆

And there’s more… much more…

This is the ballgame, right here, right now.

How are the oppositions leaders’ political instincts?

Corbyn has the smoking gun.

Shame for him that its a starting pistol. The documents achieved more for him when redacted.

Corbyn has the smoking gun. The contents of that unredacted report are utterly outrageous (assuming the précis I have read is true) and run directly contra to promises Johnson has made.

This should be enough to unite people against Johnson, it really should.

Jezza has the means now, right now. He has to make this count, publicly, repeatedly and loudly. Make damned sure that Johnson has to answer questions about this document and how it runs contra to his assurances.

This ^^^^

If Labour can’t use this to totally undermine de Pfeffel then they should just give up. Maybe Labour released it a bit early in the campaign but at least it deflects away Jeremys terrible performance on Andrew Neils interview.

Hopefully Andrew Neil will grill Boris about this a bit, I’m sure he’ll make Blohard look a bit more stupid and untrustworthy than Labour have done so far.

So how much coverage does this get?

Warsi getting a very long piece on World at One right now.

It’s shame that the “stunt” is a government document that lays bare what an UK:USA trade deal will be all about… and we will be DESPERATE to sign (for political reasons, not because it will do anything to help mitigate the self inflicted economical damage of Johnson’s Trump led Brexit).

lays bare what an UK:USA trade deal will be all about

One doesn’t need to be perspicacious to realise that it would be all about trade.

One doesn’t need to be perspicacious to realise that it would be all about trade.

…and we currently have a trade surplus with the USA, so there’s no need to do a trade deal unless it suits us – we can walk away with “no deal”.

Plus we’re currently in a trade *and* political union with a couple of dozen countries who don’t have state owned health services and it hasn’t killed the NHS.

Daz – a labour party worthy of the name would have spent the last 3 years pointing this truism it out, not spouting bollocks about ‘honouring the will of the people’.

This stuff thats come out today is about as surprising as when we all found out George Michael was gay. You’d think the opposition* might have mentioned the fact that Brexit is a bloody stupid idea and this is the inevitable, wearyingly predictable consequence of it. Along with all manner of other shit

* the word is used figuratively etc…

In contrast I’m not sure the UK had a veto over TTIP.

The UK (Dave) was the enthusiastic cheerleader for TTIP in Brussels. The rest of the EU vetoed it despite ‘our’ best efforts because it was a stitch up. So don’t be in any doubt that the Tory party will happily sell us all out to the US, without a second thought

“Rebecca Long-Bailey”

What is that the answer to?

Is it really “who shall we send in Corbyn’s stead for the next leaders debate?”

YOu do realise that our ” privatised” utilities and railways are actually largely run by governent ownened and controlled companies? Just they are owned and controlled by german, french, italian and dutch government entities.

Yes.

So why doesn’t the UK govt force them into supplying the kind of service that the UK wants? I suggest it’s because they don’t want to.

So if they are running the show, from the top down, with their hands fully on the tiller, will they have any more reason to do so?

In contrast I’m not sure the UK had a veto over TTIP

except it did, look at the fuss Walloonia (sp?) caused over CETA

and the Tories who were one one the biggest proponents of TTIP, ask Liam Fox

YUp

NHS had already moved up the voters topics of concern. This is a very good play and ne they can keep on hammering on at.

This will no doubt make the main bulletins:

Norman Smith, BBC:

Is there any evidence or proof that the British government is willing to say yes to these US demands?

Barry Gardiner, Shadow Trade Secretary:

No, absolutely not.

I think it’s a given.

Mind you, Trump might be gone by Xmas

Yup, so we may end up having to walk away and continue to enjoy our trade surplus with the USA. What we don’t have to do is do a deal that doesn’t suit us.

This isnt the case though

We are about to throw up barriers to our biggest market

Unless we can strike deals elsewhere to offset that then our imports cost us more & our exports are less desirable

This is why we are going to get shafted in a trump/usa trade deal

Plus we’re currently in a trade *and* political union with a couple of dozen countries who don’t have state owned health services and it hasn’t killed the NHS.

Not sure you know how this works. Simply having a deal with a country doesn’t guarantee the NHS dies – obviously not.

But in this particular instance, post-Brexit we will need trade deals with lots of countries as soon as possible, since we will have NO trade deals of our own. We will essentially be desperate. Everyone else knows this and will be able to force us to accede to their terms. They will hold all the cards. Their terms will include rules that allow them to sell preferentially to the NHS at higher prices. This is something they’ve been trying to do for years, AFAIK, although I do not know the details of how it would work.