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  • 2019 General Election
  • Cougar
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    Who’s “Alliance” when it’s at home?

    cromolyolly
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    Polarisation is a blackhole, if you want Labour to get in you have to counter the flight to the extremes b

    If you an figure out how to do that, you will be able to turn a worldwide trends around. Parties closer to the extreme right and left are on the up around the world.

    ratherbeintobago
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    Who’s “Alliance” when it’s at home?

    Non-sectarian NI party, allied to but not the same as the LDs (for example, Naomi Long didn’t take the coalition whip 2010-15)

    raybanwomble
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    f you an figure out how to do that, you will be able to turn a worldwide trends around. Parties closer to the extreme right and left are on the up around the world.

    Better people than me are working on it.

    But we need more people taking an interest.

    I have about 10 books to read on mass movements, counter insurgency, red teaming and geopolitics to get through first.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Here in Bassetlaw you just hear people talking up Boris.

    Astonishing. I wonder what Joe Ashton is thinking.

    cromolyolly
    Free Member

    Alliance

    They are the Norn Iron party aren’t they? They had a seat in 2010?

    mefty
    Free Member

    Guardian journalist suggesting Miliband might be in trouble, he has a 14,000 majority. Seems unlikely.

    molgrips
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    There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.

    cromolyolly
    Free Member

    I have about 10 books to read

    Might want to start with bunker building, ration hoarding and hand to hand combat. Also how to make medicines out of household waste.

    scotroutes
    Full Member

    Farage and Bercow finding much to agree about (and laugh about) on C4.

    mefty
    Free Member

    ITV coverage is pretty good, quicker on results than BBC, no Bercow and not too much Peston, thankfully.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Non-sectarian NI party, allied to but not the same as the LDs (for example, Naomi Long didn’t take the coalition whip 2010-15)

    Ah, right. Thank you.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Jess though.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.

    Man are they going to be disappointed.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Not much Bercow? **** that.

    “His material defect was that he was wrong” – or something to that effect was just said, how can you not be entertained by someone that outrageously confident?

    dazh
    Full Member

    Ian Lavery, almost like he read my earlier comment.

    I think what we’re seeing in the Labour heartlands is that people are very aggrieved at the fact that the party has taken a stance on Brexit in the way they have; 17.4m people voted for Brexit, and basically being ignored is not a good recipe. I think democracy prevails. Ignore democracy, and to be quite honest the consequences will come back and bite you.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Is that actually Robert Peston or someone doing an impression of him?

    cromolyolly
    Free Member

    There is also a fairly large faction of remainers who still just want Brexit done cos they are fed up with it.

    Yes. I suspect that if brexit is the price of getting govt to do some of the other important stuff that has been ignored for 3 years.

    Labour also have to grapple with the idea that they are now a party with 3 divided groups – the urban, University grad socially liberal, the working class, socially conservative, former union people and the young. Good luck getting them in the same tent.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Chorley is weird.

    Party	Candidate		Votes	%
    Speaker	Lindsay Hoyle		26,831	67.3
    Ind	Mark Brexit-Smith	9,439	23.7
    Green	James Melling		3,600	9

    No Tory, no Labour (is that usually what happens in the Speaker’s constituency?) and someone named “Brexit-Smith” running as an Independent?

    mefty
    Free Member

    Hoyle is speaker, other main parties dont stand.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Ah right, cheers. I know Hoyle is Speaker, I didn’t know others then stood aside in that instance.

    Is Mr Brexit-Smith being somewhat duplicitous then in standing as an Indie rather than BP?

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    The way I read the situation is that Brexit was the issue

    If you look at those early results and votes picked up by the Brexit party that’s pretty obvious.

    mefty
    Free Member

    He was the Brexit candidate but they followed convention and stood down so he changed his name and stood as an independent.

    mefty
    Free Member

    ITV calling Redcar for Tories

    dazh
    Full Member

    Think I’ve lost it with the North of England. Once a proud region of working people with open minds who had each others backs. Now just a nest of unthinking, selfish, blinkered, and frankly racist *****. ‘Night all.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    ****ing Burnley’s fallen.

    Con gain
    Burnley
    Party	Candidate		Votes	%
    Con	Antony Higginbotham	15,720	40.3
    Lab	Julie Cooper		14,368	36.9
    Lib Dem	Gordon Birtwistle	3,501	9
    Brexit	Stewart Scott		3,362	8.6
    Burnley	Charlie Briggs		1,162	3
    Green	Laura Fisk		739	1.9
    Ind	Karen Helsby Entwistle	132	0.3

    Christ, I’m not well to start with but I genuinely think I’m going to be sick. Still waiting for my constituency “expected 3am” ie in 4 minutes, and we’re slap in the middle of a pile of reds and blues.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Ex labour MP Ruth Smeeth just tore Corbyn a new arsehole live on sky hahah.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Think I’ve lost it with the North of England. Once a proud region of working people with open minds who had each others backs. Now just a nest of unthinking, selfish, blinkered, and frankly racist *****. ‘Night all.

    I see you have pivoted to my view of the world and the nation.

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    Dodds gone. Hilarious.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    How’s his dad’s dog?

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    So anyone missing them yet?

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    How’s his dad’s dog?

    Doggone!

    cromolyolly
    Free Member

    So anyone missing them yet?

    I think we’ve got quite enough lies, Fabrications and war zones to deal with, without bringing them back, don’t you?

    ctk
    Full Member

    Predicted Tory seats being forecast down by 10 to 357

    deadlydarcy
    Free Member

    Think I’ve lost it with the North of England. Once a proud region of working people with open minds who had each others backs. Now just a nest of unthinking, selfish, blinkered, and frankly racist *****. ‘Night all.

    Yup. I’m going to try my best not to hold this against northerners though. Will be hard. Off to bed. I’ve drunk enough. School run will be fun.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    I think we’ve got quite enough lies, Fabrications and war zones to deal with, without bringing them back, don’t you?

    At least we were cool man.

    War crimes have a certain ring to them.

    Brexit and our current situation is just pathetic.

    Also, has anyone seen my moral compass?

    Cougar
    Full Member

    It’s all over, isn’t it.

    They needed to gain 20 seats. They’ve already done that, they now just need to continue to break even over the next ~450 result announcements.

    ****.

    cromolyolly
    Free Member

    Also, has anyone seen my moral compass?

    It’s in the pocket of your shell suit, with your happy Mondays bucket hat.

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    Yup, predicting majority of 76 now.

    It’s done, night folk, see you on the other side.

    It’s in the pocket of your shell suit, with your happy Mondays bucket hat.

    This made me laugh.

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