Brexit was the problem & Corbyn needs to go

That’ll be amplified by the Brexit sentiment. In remain areas it’ll be much less of a swing.

ctk +1

The way I read the situation is that Brexit was the issue – it’s just Labour when given the choice of losing hard vs losing, they chose to lose hard by dithering.

The next leader will be a leaver, hence why Rayner declared herself as one the other night. The metropolitan remainers are finished. We live in a brexit country now, whether we like it or not.

They won’t be able to galvanise support behind them then, the remainers will stay either lib dem or conservative – at least for then next decade until this debacle is forgotten.

It will be like the lib dems and tuition fees.

The answer is not to double down on anti metropolitan labourism – London counts for a bloody huge swathe of Labour support and you’ve already lost your brexity Labour voters. They’ll vote conservative for the next decade.

Burning question of the night – was it a good poo or are results still coming in?

Workington. FFS.

If only Labour had accepted that.

Then how many seats would they have lost to LDs? We’ll never know. As I’ve been saying for ages – Labour were cornered by Brexit.

Turnout -12.6% so far

Bet most of those are remainers.

What an utter **** Aaron Banks is. I really struggle to express how much I despise him.

(just been interviewed on BBC, not just a random statement)

Turnout in Jo Swinsons seat is apparently over 80%. I wonder if that will save her.

Yep need to see some remain seats. 10% swing Lab to Con in every Leave seat

Labour have just taken Putney.

To be honest, I was expecting Labour to grab Putney. Heavily remain area. I don’t think the Tories will be too disappointed with that one.

conservatives can be convinced to vote labour if the leader doesn’t have raving communist lunatics as advisors. History shows that they can be convinced.

The polls said different. We are in a different time. Polarisation is in, compromise is for girlie swots.

I agree that in the past centrist voters could be pulled by centrist policies but that is a vanishingly small constituency in today’s post-trump, post-truth world.

The new Tory MP for Wrexham apparently had been a nurse and social worker. And a Tory??!

Dorries was a nurse.

The polls said different. We are in a different time. Polarisation is in, compromise is for girlie swots.

Polarisation is a blackhole, if you want Labour to get in you have to counter the flight to the extremes because the right will always win that game in the UK. Throughout history these political standoffs are a coin flip, a crap shoot, Russian roulette etc etc.

It is how democracies end.

The way I read the situation is that Brexit was the issue

You’ve abandoned the dark side and moved into the light! Oh course it was in a lot of regions. The labour losses have coincided exactly with the cons and brexit gains. In the early reports from the red wall areas the brexit party are taking a bigger chunk of labour’s losses than the Tories.

However, early projections from Swindon? Showed labour down 5% in a remain area. So there it seems that Corbyn probably is the problem. It is half the swing of leave areas though.