Well if you could explain how he was going to galvanise leavers around not leaving and conservatives around labour, you could be the next Cummings.

Stronger more personal attacks on Boris like in the last couple of days, going after his and the Tories lack of empathy and corruption. Corbyn played far too nicely until the last minute.

Strong support for remain.

A Blairite at the helm to poach conservative remain voters.

Put a lid on the Jew bashing early on to stop the perception being that Labour are engaging in pro Muslim identity politics.

A mate of mine was a Blairite political adviser for the Labour party – you jest that if I had a plan then I could be the next Cummings, but the strategy is actually pretty bloody simple.

Do they commonly say things like that?

They just quote things that might interest people from the manifestos. I was so surprised when I first heard about some of Labour’s policies on Europe 1 that I checked them and Europe 1 had it spot on, it was the policy that seemed incredible.

Oh I also said that remainers voting for Lib Dem’s would hand victory to Boris. Tory majority in Blyth 1000, 2000 Lib Dem votes, go figure.

Don’t forget the Greens. They also got more votes in Blythe than the Tories won by.

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Are any of you Corbynites going to actually voice a defence of your messiah?

Or are you just going to abuse those of us pointing out the obvious?

Agreed. This result is horrific for a traditional Labour supporter like me but entirely predictable and Corbyn/Momentum need to own this and not just blame it on the horrible tory press.

@cougar as much as this result is going to be painful for all of us that dont support Boris its harsh to threaten @Binners for saying the same thing he has been saying for the last two years.

Who wants to be Labour leader next? FFS I see nobody I want

Will you acknowledge that in leave voting labour seats the 2nd ref policy sent thousands of lifelong labour voters who voted leave to the tories?

Thousands of voters saw a combination of Brexit policy and a communist millionaire backed and useless looking potential far left PM left as something that was too much to back, even if they had been life long Labour voters in the past. The combination was a killer.

People don’t want Corbyn as PM, and that feeling is as strong with “working class” traditional Labour voters as it is in other groups, Brexit or not.

@cougar as much as this result is going to be painful for all of us that dont support Boris its harsh to threaten @Binners for saying the same thing he has been saying for the last two years.

I think it was the vitriol rather than the point that was being frowned upon.

So, in Sunderland Central Brexit party vote is nearly the same size as the swing from Labour. Not about Brexit? I think it is.

I refer you to the EU referendum thread, Chromolyolly, for hundreds of pages of analysis of Corbyns and Labours Brexit statements and policy. Labour was all about a red Brexit and Corbyn is a lifelong eurosceptic. Why do you think Tom Watson quit?

They voted for Blair.

Post referendum? Different world.

Labour going to be fortunate that the Brexit part didn’t pull out of more seats…

Post referendum? Different world.

They still would.

Face it, it wouldn’t have been quite the same route had we managed to get more remainers to vote Labour. Labour lost their leavers by dithering, thus there wasn’t any point dithering in the first place.

refer you to the EU referendum thread,

No ta, too depressing.

Just a quote from the manifesto will do. First hand is always better.

What’s a red brexit? The bus was red so we are going to get a red brexit.

Don’t knock Binners, he’s been on the money since day one. The chickens are coming home to roost!

To be fair the Corbynistas have had some successful slogans

why don’t you just **** off and join the Tories

Seems people did as they were requested

Nicked from twitter. Original as ever.

As a public servant this is all just so painfully depressing. We/you are ****.

There’s talk of a lot of Welsh seats turning Blue, that’s pretty much unheard of!!

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Right, stop.

Tempers are running high, we’re all angry / upset / gloating, and my moderator colleagues have been fervently deleting posts and a couple of short-term bans have already been issued. Tearing ourselves apart isn’t constructive folks, and frankly we all need to go to sleep at some point. So here’s what’s going to happen:

I’m now going to close this thread. I’m going to make a cup of tea and make a sandwich. I’m going to enjoy said comestibles. I might even treat myself to a poo. Then I’m going to reopen this thread and we’ll all come back a little bit calmer and without screaming “j’accuse” at anyone who will listen.

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