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  • Pigface
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    What if your hooker is sent off for being a mouthy little Kiwi gobshite

    What if he can’t actually hook 😆

    teamhurtmore
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    I am not sure who I would least like to line up against AWJ or Geoff Wheel from the old days. GWs tick would have made any nervous opposite number run back to the dressing room!!!!

    Even though he has been 100% this year! AWJ has that “you would want him on your side in the trenches” look about him.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    AWJ has that “you would want him on your side in the trenches” look about him.

    Yep. A real workhorse of a player, and not meaning that in a bad way at all!

    See also, Richard Hill (Flanker), Fabien Pelous, Victor Matfield, etc.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Tongan

    You do realise who Talupe’s cousins are dont you?
    Here’s a clue

    teamhurtmore
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    Hint, a 😉 normally indicates a bit of a joke (however bad) 😉

    duckman
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    THM; Haterz gonna hate… Just because Brown is the new poster boy of the rUK press,doesn’t make him better than h/p. Brown may have upped his game recently but Halfpenny has set the standard for 15 for the last three years. And besides,once Hogg leaves school and can start his driving lessons he will be able to train harder/more often.

    teamhurtmore
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    That B&W (homo-erotic??) photo of Victor that appeared not so long ago was extraordinary. Was it photoshopped?

    Agree Duckman, (see posts above)

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Brown v 1/2p equal
    Nowel v North wales
    Burrell v Davies england (on form)
    36 v Doc Jaw wales
    May v Cuthbert wales
    Farrel v Priestland Eng
    Care v Webb Eng
    Fatty M v Talupe Wales
    Wood v Lydiate Eng
    Robshaw v Warb even on form
    Lawes v AW Jones adv eng on form
    Launchbury v Charters adv eng on form
    Fat bloke from Bath v Adam adv wales
    Hartley v Hibbard adv eng
    Marler v Gethin adv wales

    Vunipola v James equal but very different players
    That scrum halfs brother v Owens equal
    Thomas v Rhodri both shit
    Attwood v Ball adv eng
    dont know v Tipuric adv wales
    Who is spare 9? V Spikey adv wales
    Ford v Biggar adv wales
    Tuilagi? V Liam Wlliams adv eng

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Mike Brown (Harlequins), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Danny Care (Harlequins), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), David Wilson (Bath Rugby), Joe Launchbury (London Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby).

    Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks), David Attwood (Bath Rugby), Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs), Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Alex Goode (Saracens).

    DezB
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    Damn. Twelvetrees still in there.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Damn.Excellent! Twelvetrees still in there.

    FTFY. 😉

    It’s a shame to see how he’s deteriorated in form recently. Two years ago or so, I thought he was really going to progress. Seems to have gone backwards in form, and being up against a Lions centre partnership, and/or Big George, charging at him could either make or break him. (Remember Tait? One game against The Tanned One and his career stalled heavily)

    DezB
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    Excellent! Twelvetrees still in there.

    Indeed! From an opposition point of view it must be great to see such an ineffectual attacking force in the line. Rather that than young Manu…

    ElVino
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    Of to twickers to see this one, English bench looks a bit crap if I’m honest. Too close to call though. As a neutral I love England V Wales games I wouldn’t use hate but I would say it is the most intense rivalry in the 6N.

    tinybits
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    Long term I can see a Burrell / Tuilagi mix with 12T / being the bench option and allowing someone with a bit of pace (Yard / Wade) being on the bech ready to inject some life in the last 20 instead of the death of Goode! However, that’s not realistic yet, (give it until the summer tour) so 12T is the best we’re going to get.

    Wales by 7 for me.

    jambalaya
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    Brown’s had a storming tournament but 1/2p would still be the Lions pick as we (I) now know quite how good his kicking is under pressure. It’s going to be a great match, I hope the weathers good. Could be my last Eng Wales game for a long while as Mr Grumpy is not renewing his debentures after the RWC ticket fiasco (my seat neighbour who didn’t care about RWC as it was too expensive had invitation to apply and Mr Grumpy did not)

    teamhurtmore
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    On paper, wales’ match to lose. Only a paper contest in the second row. But at least this time, our boys won’t have the mass choirs and a goat standing right behind them turning them into lumps of jelly!!!!

    We shall see, roll on Sunday!

    (Jambalaya, mind the road closure on Sunday with the half mara!!. avoid town centre, spectrum and Burpham areas)

    anagallis_arvensis
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    I fear England have made a big mistake leaving out Ashton. Come on Lancaster its not too late!

    CaptainFlashheart
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    But at least this time, our boys won’t have the mass choirs and a goat standing right behind them turning them into lumps of jelly!!!!

    Nah, they’ll be in the Library.

    Shhhh, don’t tell anyone we’ve only got one song!

    😉

    CaptainFlashheart
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    However, on a more rugby related note, this is a tough one to call for me.

    Both teams have some players on great form, Brown, North, Hovis for example. Both teams have a few question marks, Davies and 36, for example. Both teams have their liabilities, Hartley and Spikey for example.

    England, by a nose, sadly. 🙁

    And, in the other games;
    Ire v Ita – Ireland by a good handful of points, but will be made to work for it
    Sco v Fra – I dunno about this one. Scotland have been written off a little too harshly for me. However, while I’d like to say they’d scrape a win, France by ten in a messy match.

    jambalaya
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    @TMH – thanks but I’m coming up from Hamble, not based in Guildford post Decree Absolute 8) , lets catch up – I’ll send you an email … enjoy the run I’ll be working on a large breakfast as blotting paper.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    On paper, wales’ match to lose.

    er bookies dont agree england firm favourites. You just trying to play it down as usual.

    tinybits
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    No idea why other than odds are getting adjusting based on crazy optimism based on England on just not loosing against Ireland.
    Wales have a load of BI Lions, are defending champions and basically, are a bloody good team.
    As a side note, if Wales and the Welsh don’t start believing they are a good side, and can go to places and beat their opponents, then they’re never going to do well at the world cup. You’ve got to have confidence to win, the underdog mentality won’t last forever.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    I dont think it makes any difference what I think about the welsh team and they wont win a world cup anyway!
    As for the odds I think they are based on how the teams are currently playing

    tinybits
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    nope, odds are always effected by how the bets are being placed after the initial assessment of the bookies.

    loum
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    Odds at kick off depend on the bookies possible losses for possible outcomes.
    In a patriotic betting country like England they’re always skewed massively towards English victory due to the shear number of backers.
    This effect may not be as visible in Wales 😉

    anagallis_arvensis
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    R Kearney, Trimble, O’Driscoll, D’Arcy, D Kearney, Sexton, Murray, Heaslip, Henry, Henderson, O’Connell, Toner, Ross, Best, Healy

    Replacements: Cronin, McGrath, Moore, Ruddock, Murphy, Reddan, Jackson, McFadden

    Rhys O’Ruddock on bench! Suprised Zebo hasnt made the team

    anagallis_arvensis
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/sixnations/10681001/Six-Nations-2014-England-v-Wales-how-players-compare.html

    Healey once again doing his best to show what a **** moron he is. Apart from anything else he doesnt even seem to grasp the positions Davies and Roberts play!

    CaptainFlashheart
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    A Welsh reject No8 better than Faletau? Healey’s just writing clickbait these days. Pathetic.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Morgan and Faletau are very different players but no way is Morgan better. As for Wilson being better than Adam!

    molgrips
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    My mate has tickets to Sunday’s match, won in the local residents ticket lottery. He’s not much of a rugby fan.. unlike several of his colleages, particulary the Welsh ones… 😯

    tinybits
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    Agree, tongan blokey is far better than welsh reject, but ive not seen recent form of tongan. Is he doing OK?

    Adam Jones is fading force as far as I can see. Now the impacts gone from the ‘hit’ hes nothing like as effective at doing a number on his opersition, however I’d have him a mile ahead of Bath Fatman! Hopefully fatty is a fair bit fitter now and can last for a while. I wonder if Tom Youngs has been taught the lineout calls yet as well. If he could sort that he would be a real impact sub.
    Oh, and I thought Healy got the centres pretty much right in the descriptions, even if in the wrong positions?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    He said J Davies is the best 12 in europe, he’s a **** 13, always has been. Played 12 a few times with the lions but he’s a 13. I didnt read the rest of his tripe about the centres when I saw he’d got them wrong!

    Fofana is the best 12

    bigblackshed
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    Triumph Spitfire has been at the crack pipe again.

    tinybits
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    But he is probably the best 13, which is what I’m getting at. He’s been playing really well. You’re just upset that your no2 man crush Mr Jones has been playing quite poorly this season!
    Never mind, I think Me Henson is heading back over the bridge…

    bloodynora
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    Ok welch rugby fans, if your team are so good how come you’ve not won the rugby world cup or even got to a final yet? These odd grand slams/championships are all well and good ( still not won as many as england) but until you actually compete for a world cup you can never be taken seriously in the wider rugby world surely?!

    bigblackshed
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    Here we go again…..

    anagallis_arvensis
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    The welsh rugby team isnt very good as evidenced by losing to australia 240 000 times in the last two years. Winning the odd grand slam is about our level and we have over performed compared to say ireland in recent years. The more pertinant question is given their huge playing resources why are england so shit?

    toys19
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    Ok welch rugby fans, if your team are so good how come you’ve not won the rugby world cup or even got to a final yet? These odd grand slams/championships are all well and good ( still not won as many as england) but until you actually compete for a world cup you can never be taken seriously in the wider rugby world surely?!

    I don’t think you understand them. As long as they beat us, that’s all that counts.
    If you look at the historical record of wales vs england (here) you will find it is exactly 56/56.
    I don’t think we should be discounting them just yet..

    AA to help you, england have more eligble players than all of the rest of the world added together. We should be ruddy amazing. Alas not. I wish I knew why.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    And…in case you get your talking cars muddled up….

    jambalaya
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    The best althletes in South Africa and NZ play rugby. Wales not too far behind. In England we have a huge number of other sports which take take talent. Of course we have mire grass roots players as we are a country of 45+m. Real outstanding peformers are the ozzies as league is so much bigger than union. Winners in 2003, losing finalists in 2007 not such a bad record, 2011 was a disaster as the tournament was wide open.

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