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  • ElVino
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    I suspect the media will build up the whole Gatland V BOD thing before the match, I would hope BOD has moved on.

    Ireland’s problem is we still haven’t got anyone who is clearly better than him. He has become a bit on a penalty machine with Southern Hemisphere refs but calls seem to go the other way for him in 6N and HCup. Ulster have a few decent centers, Munster have none and he is still at 13 for Leinster when fit. Lots of people hoping Jared Payne the answer but I have only seen him at 15.

    BlindMelon
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    I think Payne is the only option at 13 from Ulster. Cave just isn’t good enough, even if he does think otherwise.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25230420

    How not to get selected I think. Slag the coach and former captain! I’d like to see Earls get a bit of an opportunity as he has the potential to step up if he stays injury free. The cupboard at 13 is very bare in Ireland.

    I think this will be BOD’s final season he’s getting broken much too often and you can’t nurse him to the World Cup and hope he stays fit. Plus his Mrs said this is his last season so that will be it. 😀

    loum
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    I got the impression that bods first reason for staying on was one more crack at NZ, at home too. Whole team seemed to be focused entirely on that one game as his last and best chance. Anyone thinking there’s a fixture that matters more is kidding themselves.
    Henshaw looks exciting as a possible longer term option, but reckon Tommy Bowe might be the next best 13 for now if needed. There’s more cover for wing.
    BM, reckon it’s Henry’s turn to show how it works as a true 7. Was going well when not injured and Cians back for ball carrying duties. Jordi Murphy’s prob nearest like for like style and might be a good impact bench shout.

    jambalaya
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    @loum – really ? The Autumn internationals are friendlies, it’s the RBS and RWC which count. It’s important to build a winning mentality in the friendlies so that come the games that matter you have a chance.

    duckman
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    Us,
    Forwards: John Beattie (Montpellier), Kelly Brown (Saracens), Geoff Cross, David Denton, Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford (all Edinburgh Rugby), Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby), Ryan Grant, Jonny Gray (both Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Jim Hamilton (Montpellier), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons), Kieran Low (London Irish), Moray Low, Pat MacArthur (both Glasgow Warriors), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh Rugby) Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), Tim Swinson and Ryan Wilson (both Glasgow Warriors).

    Backs: Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Max Evans (Castres), Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart Hogg, Ruaridh Jackson, Sean Lamont (all Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby), Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby), Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby) and Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors).

    Not considered due to injury: Alastair Kellock (Glasgow Warriors), Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors), Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) and Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby).
    Could the Welsh please take Scott Johnston back please? I don’t think he has watched any of the two Scottish teams at all this year. And Kelly Brown nailed on as captain when he isn’t good enough to start?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    We dont want him, ship him back to Aus. Suprised Barclay didnt get in has he retired?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    I see SOB and Heaslip may be iff to France. Doomed we’re all doomed.

    duckman
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    Barclay has blown hot and cold this year. Johnston will pick Brown,despite his lack of games/pace. Fusaro is next in line after Brown,despite being the stand out Scottish back row player this year. After that Rennie,then perhaps Barclay. While they are still young,we are finally starting to grow some backs. Dougie Fife,who was a ball boy just a blink of an eye ago has made the squad after five tries in seven games.

    ijs445ra
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    Think Rennie is lucky to make the squad having missed most of the season and Roddy Grant is perhaps unlucky to miss out again based on his recent performances. Should be Fusaro for starting 7 but not convinced it will happen.

    Would like to see Tonks given a shot at 10 has done well for Edinburgh covering there the last few weeks.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    So, Ryan “Nicest man in rugby” may be off to Brizzle?

    Might relocate to Wales. Pretty much guaranteed a starting place for any of the regions the way this is heading. 🙁

    ElVino
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    SOB signs a new deal with IRFU that keeps him at Leinster until 2016!
    will be interesting to see what Heaslip does

    duckman
    Full Member

    How long will SoB last? What that boy puts himself through every time he plays is something else. What is he, Late 20’s?

    deadlydarcy
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    will be interesting to see what Heaslip does

    Well, whatever he does, I imagine it’ll be accompanied by some tweets with slightly oblique references to heroic Greek myths and legends and the odd quote loaded with self-belief. 😀

    BlindMelon
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    Lol @ DD

    Duckie just look at Fez. Very similar to SOB, he’s pretty **** now. I doubt he will ever be back at the level he was a few years ago. Ulster extended his contract to get him fit but didn’t say for how long, not a great endorsement.

    SOB had to stay home, he’s got his cows to feed. ROG writing in the Irish Times reckons Heaslip will go to Toulon. TBH I wouldn’t be that bothered if he did. He’s been living in his 2009 form for too long. I’d like to see a backrow of POM, Henry and SOB AT 6,7,8.

    @loum if Henry plays as well for Ireland as he has for Ulster the past few seasons then he will do well, he’s our most reliable forward by a mile. I see Strauss is back this weekend. Great news as Cronin throws like Stevie Wonder in the dark and Best ain’t much better.

    What do we think for a starting 15 then?

    Healy
    Best
    I’d like to see Moore but it will be Ross
    POC
    McCarthy (I’d like to see Tuohy get a go)
    POM
    Henry
    Heaslip
    Murray
    Sexton
    Zebo
    Marshall
    BOD
    Bowe
    Kearney

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    Arent Bowe and Zebo broken? Surely you can find a 15 who can tackle too?

    deadlydarcy
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    Zeno came on in the second half against Glaws.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Did he? Great he’s good to watch.
    I read on the Beeb that Bevington is hoping to step into Gethins shoes for Wales. A small part of me died, surely it has to be P James at 1? I’d like to see
    James
    Hibbard
    Adam
    AW Jone (cpt)
    Evans/ Charteris
    R Jones
    Tips
    Faletau
    Phillips
    1/2p
    S Williams
    North
    Cuthbert
    Hook

    although doubtless Lydiate, Warburton and Roberts will be picked despite having no form.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Oh I might pick an outside half too, probably Biggar

    BlindMelon
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    @ AA Bowe and Zebo are expected to be added to squad next week.

    I have to agree James is a much better option.

    duckman
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    Did I not read an interview with SoB in which was saying he took orders for bread,milk and eggs from his team mates?

    Grant
    McArthur(it will be Ford)
    Cross
    Hamilton
    Grey junior/Gilchrist
    Strokosh
    Fusaro
    Denton
    Laidlaw
    Maitland
    Jackson
    Scott
    Evans
    Maitland
    Tonks

    ijs445ra
    Free Member

    Maitland so good you picked him twice Duckie? 😀

    Grant
    Ford
    Cross
    Hamilton
    Swinson
    Denton
    Fusaro
    Beatie
    Laidlaw
    Tonks
    Fife
    Scott/Taylor
    Taylor/Scott
    Maitland/Seymour
    Hogg

    ElVino
    Free Member

    How long will SoB last? What that boy puts himself through every time he plays is something else. What is he, Late 20’s?

    A lot longer in Ireland than France given the number of games he will be required to play, they way things are going he might have no HCup, No league games next season just inter provincials and internationals.

    Pigface
    Free Member

    Bevington can hope 😆 he isnt bad but needs to improve a lot to be a good international player.

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    He seems to have gone backwards with the removal of the hit in scrums.

    duckman
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    ijs445ra – Member
    Maitland so good you picked him twice Duckie?

    Doh, that should be Fife, was trying to put them in their correct position.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    BBC Headline fail…!

    England head coach Stuart Lancaster re-appoints Bath flanker Chris Robshaw as England captain for the 2014 Six Nations.

    Barf? I think not!

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    looks like Evans will be getting a long rest, ****

    anagallis_arvensis
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    deadlydarcy
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    Can’t see what his defence will be for that one. Looks like four deliberate stamps to the face.

    **** indeed!

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    Not sure if he knew it was his face but its certainly deliberate. He has previous too. Having said that an old school kiwi woukd blame the Leinster player for trying to tackle a maul and the lying in the way. Not defending him but if the ref had blown for the initial offence none of this would have happend.

    duckman
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    His defense will be that he was driven over the player and was trying to get his feet on the ground. The panel will take into account the fact he is not looking at him as he stamps on him,despite the fact he looks down firsT.Banned before; 4 weeks,no previous 2 weeks. Judge Duckman

    anagallis_arvensis
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    he has previous ask Harry Ellis about his knee

    duckman
    Full Member

    I hated Ellis,but if he did his knee with a stamp,then l hope other players livelihoods are protected for a while. BTW tigers v Ulster,what a game! I love you AA 😉

    BlindMelon
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    What a game indeed, tigers got ruaned!!

    Awesome performance and what a scrum from Tom Court a few mins from the end.

    Looking forward to the home QF when all the building work at Ravers will be finished and 18000 will be cheering them on. SUFTUM

    lyrikal
    Free Member

    Really exciting match, Piennar is a genius. Great to see a match like that from arguably the country’s two best teams

    It will be a fitting first match at ravenhill, can’t wait

    duckman
    Full Member

    Melon,if you are a Ulster fan,while he was at uni I played in the same Dundee rugby team back row as Tony McWhirter. He came to Dundee to do dentistry and despite being a complete pisshead was rather handy.( 6″6″ and 18 stone helped a wee bit)

    BlindMelon
    Free Member

    Yeah he was our 8 when we won the Heine in ’99. He does a bit of punditry on BBC NI in Ulster’s home Rabo games. Suppose that 18 st comes in handy if he’s pulling a stubborn molar.

    ElVino
    Free Member

    Well done Ulster, great game hung in there and took their chances. Munster in your home semi maybe?

    duckman
    Full Member

    Aye,we raised a beer to him,he was second on t podium,a throwback to previous era.
    Gavin Hastings
    Tam Smith
    Stu Campbell
    Richard Cramb
    Adam Buchanan-Smith
    John Manson
    Sean Longstaff
    Rob Wainwright
    Jeremy Cambell-Lamerton
    Damien Cronin
    Finley Calder
    Lindsey Fenwick
    Paul Burnell
    Derek White
    Andy Nichol
    Jay Allan
    And played against pretty much every Scottish and English int of the late 80’s to 90’s.
    Played with/drank/set fire to my pubes with all of the above in the amateurish game,now…I would be watching them from a stand having played at 9am to ensure as good as crowd as possible. Need a new knee and hip,but wonder if l had a better time than folk that play now.

    deadlydarcy
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    Yep, fantastic result for Ulster. It was a good game. Takes real quality to beat them at Welford Road in the HC. Saracens at Ravers – should be a semi-final place – but they’ll be tough opposition.

    Draw to see where the home advantage lies for the SFs tomorrow isn’t it?

    😀

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