And Trinh Duc at FH, allegedly.

You can test the theory easily – let’s ask: will AA be supporting the Ab’s or England on Saturday?

I support anyone but the cheaty, stampy, punchy, spear-tackly Kiwis. (And I agree with SCW, don’t give them the name, just call them New Zealand. Neath are the real All Blacks, anyway!)

On Saturday, I’ll be fully behind both England and Ireland.

Very true IJ

I doubt that any Welsh/Scot/Irish person cares whether you think of yourself as English or British

Yes, probably very true.

I doubt that any English person cares whether you think of yourself as Welsh or British

Arrogant *************. My nationality and heritage is important.

Oi, I’m from the oppressed nation here, stop trying to turn it around!! 😆

Who I support really depends on who is playing. I’ve even been known to support Llanelli! I quite like ‘the cheaty, stampy, punchy’, etc NZs so I’ll be supporting them on Saturday. And will definitely be supporting Ireland – I can’t stand Australia for some reason. No rational reasonal!

Full devolution for any of the smaller nations would lead to a very substantial economic decline, plus you’d have to take the euro sooner or later if you want to be in the EU

Jambalaya, you are being led in the wrong direction by toys’ confused vision of the UK. Feeling Welsh (or Scottish, Irish, Cornish, Geordie, Scouse….) doesn’t automatically require devolution.

Hmm, on the theme toys started… I hated the tory government’s hammering of Scotland growing up in the 80’s,which was the decade after the 1st indy vote(which the majority supported) but never translated that to the sporting teams. The slam at the end of the decade changed all that,the rugby was secondary to some serious bile and I look back at that game and all the crap surrounding it with no fond memories at all. I was living in London at the time and all of a sudden there was an edge to the games.The next year the person behind me sat burning my fancy berghaus jacket in half a dozen places for no reason other than the fact I was Scottish. Other guys in my club had beer thrown at them and abused way past the level of anything that could be called banter. This was returned in spades the following year at M’field and I think it was only after the pro game moved the posts so far that England were so much better the memory of the Murrayfield ambush is a distant wound. Despite anything that Toys would like to suggest,we don’t hate the English any more than the English hate the Scots,indeed I was screaming for Engerland in 2003 as I loved the rugby they had played for the previous 18 months. The hype around that side didn’t bother me because it was more than justified.
However fast forward 10 years and we have the crap that has already been spouted in the Times this week,fortress(with a small f) twickenham as reported in the Times this week anybody? And then things like the hissy fit after the Welsh played the ref better than you guys don’t endear the current England management team to the rest of the home nations.Things like that reinforce the arrogant stereotype.But most of all I want NZ to win because I love the fact that everybody in that side has turned down lucrative overseas contracts to wear the fern during the prime of their careers.That’s quite an anomoly in the modern game, and something that would be alien to a large number of players in Britain and blazers in the various “HQ’s”. You can slag how well the ALL-BLACKS confuse refs and remember 10yo spear tackles,but they are the best team in the world by a distance.
Is all that racist? I don’t think so,the rest of these Islands are underdogs when we play England so I also think that has a lot to do with it,seeing the big team taken down. For me anyway I certainly don’t transfer my dislike of all things RFU/Ashton and Tory to ordinary English people,and my feeling about English people is different to my BLACK,MURDEROUS thoughts about the rugby team,except when the play France; Auld Alliance my arse!

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Wales is part of Britain, therefore you are currently British. If (as you clearly stated above) you do not want to be British, then devolution is the answer to your jingoism.

Duckman I will summarise what you just said thus:

AA you have my hand darling.

It’s not jingoism to feel British or not. It’s just how you feel.

I’ve always thought it funny that the most British feeling of the communities of the union are the Irish ones. 🙂

Ah, it’s an interesting diversion O’Flashearty. I do find it interesting to hear folks’ reasonings about which teams they support when it comes to the 6N and AIs.

True, DD, true.

For me, 6N is always Wales. And then I will support the team that would most benefit Wales if they won! 😈

AIs? Well, if Wales are playing, then it’s obvious. Otherwise, any home nation against a SH side. I do, however, find myself supporting both Argentina and Japan as the ‘underdog’ side at times, notably when against Scotland for some reason.

Please. Dont.

The only irrational reaction I have against any of the other home nations is a rel recent desire to see Scotland lose. This is despite my Scottish education and love of the country. Instead it comes down solely to listening to Andy Nicol on the Beeb. Partly he simply gets on my nerves but equally it’s so funny to see his brilliant ability to see the positive despite Scotland being drubbed into the mud. We all have our biases, but sadly Nicol is a long way from the great Bill McClaren.

But at least that’s better than watching TF1 hey jambalaya?!?

The only irrational reaction I have against any of the other home nations is a rel recent desire to see Scotland lose. This is despite my Scottish education and love of the country. Instead it comes down solely to listening to Andy Nicol on the Beeb. Partly he simply gets on my nerves but equally it’s so funny to see his brilliant ability to see the positive despite Scotland being drubbed into the mud. We all have our biases, but sadly Nicol is a long way from the great Bill McClaren.

Ahhh, there – look he said it!!!!!! 💡

Imagine Andy Nicol on a massive scale, with an English accent (in every sense of that word) every time England play, in print and on TV.

😆

Crossed a line there Toys,now just keep that filthy mouth of yours off St Archie.

Tuilagi could miss six nations according to Beeb. Same injury as Davies.

“Sean;why do NZ churn out such good rugby players?”
Fitzpatrick; “Ever been here in the winter? There is sod all else to do.”

Or is it that they do not play any other sport. Rugby is it.
I’m not sure what the welsh attitude to footy or teenage pregnancies was in the 60’s,70’s,and 80’s but it seems to me that the Principality as a whole was concentrating on its rugby. From 1964 to 1989 there were 26 games between us and we only won 4 of them.

Duckie-its not an anti northern thing, its just that Devon is such a long way away from Newcastle or whoever it was playing. It seems like there is no excuse for the football matches of two teams wholly unrelated to the region to be more important to the Mount Radford pub dwellers than the rugby team of the nation..

Kryton, you mean you had hope?

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I don’t do excuses, we either win or we don’t, if we do we are awesome, if we don’t we are not awesome.