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£2000 mobile phone bill – any options?
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horaFree Member
Yes, there do seem to be a fair amount of self-righteous twonks on this forum.
I'd rather have criticism than 'yes yes you did the right thing'.
Sometimes criticism helps better than praise.
donsimonFree Membertron – Member
Cor blimey. Why don't you all go the whole hog and start praying for the poor chap to get cancer of the arse whilst you're at it?
I don't think anyone has wished any harm on the OP, a bit of a harsh statement.
Yes, there do seem to be a fair amount of self-righteous twonks on this forum.
Yes, there are, aren't there?
WiredchopsFree MemberUnfortunately can't help with the current bill woes but can really recommend getting an appropriate call-card next time any travelling is to be done.
My mum bought me one with £20 on it when I did some travelling in my first year summer as a way to stay in touch. When the end of the summer came and I still had a few hours left on the thing I started calling old mates for a friendly chat as felt guilty for not using all of the money. So cheap! You could argue that there will be times when no phone-calls can be made because of lack of land-lines etc. but if you're getting mobile reception there must be a land-line somewhere and being out of touch for at least some of the time can add to the travelling experience!Also, next time someone travels on a contract phone check out the contract! Martin's money saving tips has some great advice for cutting down travelling costs.
Being raised quite strictly with regards to allowances and now having a little sister of a similar age to your daughter and seeing her getting allowances I (and other two siblings) never received (which does my chuffin' head in I can tell you) I hope you mean it when you say that she will pay the phone bill, even if just for her sake.ianpinderFree MemberTiger roach, my student loan was £4000 a year my accom was £4800 a year, needless to say the student loan does not cover everything. I had to have a full time job during university, my mum is on disability support but still helped out when she could, she paid for my car insurance.
I full support parents helping out their kids at uni, hopefully I'll earn enough to help my kids through uni.
Reading this thread I love how some people read what they want into the op posts.
tronFree MemberWhat IP said above. Pre-top up fees, even receiving maximum loan & the 1k grant, my rent was just about covered. You needed to find another 3-4k a year for living expenses, books, transport etc.
If you're fortunate, you could find reasonably well paid & career relevant summer work. It's certainly harder now – the people who employed me over summers in the past would expect voluntary work now.
jon1973Free MemberI'd rather have criticism than 'yes yes you did the right thing'.
Sometimes criticism helps better than praise.
True, but 4-pages later…I think he 'gets it' don't you?
speaker2animalsFull MemberTake the contract SIM out of her phone and replace it with a Pay as You Go. Tell her she has to pay for her phone use for the next 6/12 months and you pay the contract on her contract SIM. You may also want to go as far as to tell her she has to pay you £10 a month for the next 12 months. Won't cover the £2K but should teach her a lesson. Otherwise I think you are in danger of it happening again. The trouble for youngsters with contract phones is they just don't see the cost. I would advise you to show her the true costs of running these devices.
IvanDobskiFree MemberNext time she goes away pay her boyfriend £250 to not answer the phone under any circumstances. It'll take a lot of £1.45 non-connected call charges to hit the magic £2k again.
(Although I'm sure she'll do her best!)
large418Free MemberSo, general concensus is that I should make my daughter pay. The first bill was going to be split 50:50, the 2nd bill has changed that. The intent was always that she would pay the whole bill, the only discussion then is how, when and how much. She works part time, so that helps pay a bit in either a lump sum or monthly. If I can help by reducing the bill by discussing with Orange, then that's as much support as I think she should get. What I will not do, is put her future at Uni in jeopardy – I could make her defer a year, or add hours to her working week, or remove the money she has put by to live on, but if that means she does not do as well at Uni as she could, then that would be a mistake.
From reading the above responses, I am glad it's stirred up some debate, as I hope that some other dads go home and put limits on their kids mobile contracts, or at least have a discussion with their kids who are due to go on hols or travelling. Seeing my daughters reaction when she showed me the account balance on Orange – to say she was sh*tting herself is an understatement – she knows how tight money is.
My reaction was a heart stopping moment, followed by a "well that's too big a problem to get angry about, the real issue is how to fix it, then deal with the lessons later". A smaller bill would have been hitting the roof material, a bill this size is just numbing.tiger_roachFree Memberianpinder – around £100/week for accom? Wow. OK so the loan isn't enough and I think there's no excuse for that, I blame Labour…. It is possible to get additional loans from banks I think – a few grand a year?
I started as a student in '89 so I saw the introduction of the loans and grants were still pretty good though was told by older people at the time they were far better in the 70s. I managed OK without them but did work in the summer; actually I did take the loans but never needed them so just took the interest.
horaFree MemberWhen I went to Uni Student halls were £70 a week and sold to us on the basis of worry to my parents. 'What if'.
That was in 1994.
Luckily We saw past that however I must admit the one positive to halls is the ontap sex that is available both to males and females.
(Seriously) if the people who ran halls had change the message 'you make friends' to 'you have serious amounts of sex' I think I'd have signed up for Halls 😥
Thankfully there were La Salles just around the corner to help out
ianpinderFree MemberYes typically it's £300 – £400 a month, I think my uni accom in my final semester was £350 a month for a tiny room. Before that £400 got me a double bed in a medium sized room. It's worse in London, I think my friend was paying close to £6k a year and her loan was around £5k, though her parents paid for that and gave her £400 a month for food. I was the only person in my house who didn't get an allowence and my accom paid.
hamishthecatFree Memberand she is developing emotionally
I think that says it all…
horaFree MemberYes typically it's £300 – £400 a month
😯
I don't think I'd have gone to Uni now. I think we paid £25 a week in a shared house.
Saying this alot of the students going to 'Uni''s' now are wasting their money on most courses.
Edric64Free MemberThey will be sports science media studies and art based courses then,the modern replacement for looking out of a window all day(sociology in the 70s)
myheadsashedFull Memberman gives woman phone – man surprised when woman uses phone ALOT 😳
Large from here your as much to blame as she is……….Basics man basics 🙄
myheadsashedFull Memberman gives woman phone – man surprised when woman uses phone ALOT 😳
Large from here your as much to blame as she is……….Basics man basics 🙄
jd-boyFree MemberORANGE, Ha you ant got a hope in hell of getting anything from them, the worst cell phone company out there, period. the amazing thing is that it worked, we used to have 3 Orange phones in the business and they never had any service were we needed to use them.
bigbob38Free MemberThanks for this thread!
Just showed my daughter and didn't even have to go down the 'don't even think about it' road!!
Even she thought this was taking this p1ss big time
🙂speaker2animalsFull MemberI have to say that Orange surprised me today. I was unable to pay my last invoice on time due to cash flow (unemployed). Had to ring them today to make payment and asked how much I was going to be charged for late payment. Nothing! I could have dropped through the floor. The only "problem" is my DD is cancelled until I pay my next bill on time and then I can re-instate my DD payments.
Sounds fair to me.
simply_oli_yFree Memberianpinder,
is that in student halls? why bother!i rent a flat -though not a student i share with someone who was- the two guys here paid 350 each a month for rent and bills. thats in a private rented flat in edinburgh, close to town. why pay more for a tiny box in student accom????!!
and although thats still 4200 a year, its still 600 (near 2 months rent) saved!
On the op, i'd say its best to have her pay it all back, in some form or another.
i had a contract phone from my dad till i was 18, but then worked out cheaper for me to get a new one than continue paying the bill (cheaper deals and all that).
As for the whole what gets payed for, most student friends seem to get help with paying for accom, but all bills/other stuff is up to them, part time jobs and such to fund.if she's still staying at home the entire time at uni thats pretty bad, you should at least get some form of digs money from her, like £50 a week contributing to things?
speshstumpyworksFree MemberI read your first post re phone bill and then your last.Cannot beleive you are even discussing it on this forum.
I personally would not have told a sole, how dumb are you.
I would be mad at myself not my daughter, what did you expect.
Wake up and smell the java.I hope you don't drive as people like you should not be in charge of anything that moves a fast as a car.
You are a high court judge …. am I right !
jonnyvegasFree MemberIts Good to talk….LOL BUT not at that price fella…
If my daughter had a phone bill like that id kill myself……
But shes a very considerate lassy.,..Bless Her….As shes got loads of common sense too
NZColFull MemberI once ran up a marisat bill of just shy of 16grand (pounds) but it was legitimate work stuff – p0rn back in them days (usenet alt.binaries.pictures.amazonianwoman) was a bit slow on the old dial up from the middle of the Caspian ! We were using a diskfax to transfer code backwards and forwards – cost a bit !
Anyway, is she cute ? could you pimp her out to recoup your losses ? I'll get my coat…
CaptJonFree Memberre. cost of uni… Halls usually include all bills, and frequently they are catered too. I've worked at two universities and the contribution from parents ranged differently between the two. One, a red brick with a high proportion of public school kids, was as you'd expect – accommodation paid for, allowance, sometimes a car, and some even had a credit card their parents would pay off at the end of the month. Where i work now, non-red brick with a fair proportion of students who are local, many parents contribute by letting their kids stay at home, and there are a lot fewer who provide allowances, pay for rent etc. It really depends on the course, background of student, and location.
imho the students who get a job are more organised, better motivated and work harder.
BigButSlimmerBlokeFree MemberORANGE, Ha you ant got a hope in hell of getting anything from them, the worst cell phone company out there, period. the amazing thing is that it worked, we used to have 3 Orange phones in the business and they never had any service were we needed to use them.
Really? I've had Orange phones for nearly 10 years and had two problems both of which they fixed by doing more than I asked (eg queried some charges of about £7.50, got £10 refund). Never even considered leaving them.
missingfrontallobeFree MemberI've not bothered trawling though all the responses here, but in short:
19 year old, either in employment or higher education, some access to money of she puts her mind to it, therefore she pays for it.
Next time she is abroad, get the provider to put a block on charges, so when she reaches a limit you have agreed with the provider, they'll notfiy you, you decide whether or not to extend the limit to continue service.
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