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  • vincienup
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    As title, really.  I’lm kicking around alternative build ideas as a brand new FS frame this year is looking increasingly unlikely and I have a stack of parts bought ready for a build – including a Boost wheelset.

    Obviously, I *could* just get a sh Boost frame, but if recent non-Boost could be included also it would significantly broaden the options – plus I’ve seen one I quite like the idea of.

    The wheelset in question is based on boost DT 350’s and I gather the official line on these is that they’re non-convertible.  I’d been debating sacrificing a set of endcaps and getting a little machined off (possibly all 6mm off the NDS to avoid knacking the chainline and bring the brake rotor back into the right place?) but then I read a thread at MTBR which seems to suggest that it may be possible to just fit the Boost wheel in the 142 back end with no mods.  Unfortunately I’ve mounted a front tyre and set it up tubeless (I was bored) so simply returning the wheelset (online purchase) isn’t an option.

    Anyone got any thoughts on this or has actually done it and won / tried and failed?

    nixie
    Full Member

    How would you move the rotor mm inwards?

    It’s likely the spokes will be the same as non boost. Buy hub, swap hub, swap back when you want boost.

    vincienup
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    Hm,  I was thinking that shaving the existing NDS endcap down 6mm would have the effect of moving the rotor to a suitable place while reducing the OLD spacing to 142 at the same time.

    Haven’t sketched this out so quite possibly I’ve missed something.  While it sounded like exact frame was a huge variable in whether it would or wouldn’t work from the MTBR thread, some people there were finding they had enough lateral adjustment on the caliper mount to fix the brake alignment (guessing this would not have been the case if they needed to find all 6mm!)

    Rebuild is obviously an option and I even have a spare 350 rear knocking around which would only need endcaps although I’d definitely need spokes as the OE hub is SP and mine is traditional J-bend.  In fact, thinking about it, I have a set of suitable rims already so it might make more sense to leave the nice new wheels for the next bike and just get a front …

    nixie
    Full Member

    The disc mount is part of the hub shell. If you shave 6mm from the nds cap the rotor would be 6mm too close to the dropout.

    Only way I can see it working is on a frame with flex (i.e. a steel frame) where you push the dropouts outwards. Bit like the 135mm hub in .A road frame idea. Even then I’d bet you need a longer axle.

    vincienup
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    Longer axles were being used by the guys in the thread – typically they seemed to be buying 148 axles in the same fitting for their frames as otherwise they were barely getting thread engagement (understandable).  Some were flexing their frames, some claimed not to be.  Someone raised the question of ‘whats it doing to your pivots’ and someone else responded that with the shock removed they couldn’t feel any additional drag while the wider hub was in the bike than when the correct item was fitted.

    On the whole I think I’ll probably just reckon on a wheel build to suit, but it would be interesting offering the boost wheel up to a few frames to see how close it was.  Based on the other thread, the answer (that I’d always assumed) of ‘it’ll be 6mm too big’ might not always be the case.

    Andy
    Full Member

    Pm’d you about this. Cheers

    BearBack
    Free Member

    All sounds a bit tricky.. per above I’m pretty sure 350 148 and 135/142 take the same spoke lengths so I’d go with a hub swap for guaranteed results.

    I just did a front 100 to 110 swap and it was quick and easy plus the tension labour to my local bike whisperer.

    coomber
    Free Member

    If you are after 650b there are loads of cheap decent wheels around in 142 width.  I know cause it took me a while to get some in 29er flavour as they were all 650b!

    zippykona
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    You can buy OE wheels for next to nothing.

    My giant wheels had no takers at £40.

    bigblackshed
    Full Member

    A boost hub isn’t just 6mm wider than a 142mm hub. In fact 135mm and 142mm are the same hub, just with longer end caps. The brake disc position is the same, the frame size is the same. It’s just 142mm hubs slot in to recesses machined in to the frames drop out.

    The boost hub does the same thing as the 142mm hub in that it slots into recesses in the frame. The brake disc disc surface on the boost hub is 3mm further out towards the end cap.

    Boost is is a solution to a problem of sluggish sales and 0.003%* betterer. **

    * Made up number

    ** Ever had the feeling you’ve been conned?

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