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  • Should Theresa May resign?
  • slowster
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    This tweet from the editor of BBC2’s Newsnight indicates what is now influencing every decision that May and the Conservatives take:

    One of striking aspects of election aftermath is how many snr Tories agree they cant go to the country any time soon as Corbyn likely winner

    aracer
    Free Member

    You are ninfan and I claim my £5 😉

    Fundamentally the damage done (in all senses and to all parties) is the same whether a coalition or not.

    Like almost all petitions, that petition is daft, but it certainly shows something…

    cite 😉

    What your mate Nige* actually said was that “she doesn’t believe in it”, to which Mr Schama made the obvious counter. Clearly that’s a problem to Nige, but the logic of your assertion rather fails when Labour wins the next election – which of the Labour Leave MPs do you think should become PM? Of course the other issue is exactly the same assertions could be made about your mate Boris.

    * whilst I still don’t agree with him on much, it’s become clear that Nige is a fairly shrewd politician

    aracer
    Free Member

    Unlike TM’s coalition of chaos, that is a certainty. The trouble is the DUP will also be aware of that, as will everybody else sitting in the commons, and almost half of them will be quite keen on the idea.

    mrmoofo
    Free Member

    TM is toast …there will be no election in the short term but she will be gone into weeks
    Badly advised and perhaps very aloof ….

    lucorave
    Free Member

    I’m surprised that no one from the Tory’s has blamed the Russians yet

    😆

    kimbers
    Full Member

    My local MP is openly gay was in a safe Tory seat with nearly 10k majority, now in a 1000 vote marginal, he’s getting hostility on Twitter from local gay community about DUP coalition

    19 out Tory MPs (45 in total, world record)

    Highest number of women MPs ever elected to parliament

    Country is now in hock to these guys….

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/06/10/breaking-anti-lgbt-dup-agrees-to-confidence-deal-with-conservatives/

    All for a 2 seat majority 😯

    nick1962
    Free Member

    PJM1974
    Free Member

    #freeTheresa

    “With every ten clubcard points”.

    bigrich
    Full Member

    Brexit should be lead by someone who campaigned for Leave. If (when) May goes thats who will most likely be PM

    perhaps they can use the key points from the leave manifesto? you know, that well written and argued series of guidelines and justification for leaving.

    oh wait, it was a man-monkey shitting in his hand and throwing it at the fan that is the daily mail.

    edenvalleyboy
    Free Member

    Ever since the GE was called May has been acting light a rabbit caught in headlights and her erractic, indescive and impulsive behaviour has increasingly worsened.

    Someone needs to put her out of her misery and put a halt to her chaotic ( and resulting dangerous) behaviour. It will only get worse the longer she stays as PM.

    ferrals
    Free Member

    The stupid thing is, if she was rational and conceded that we need a cross party group on Brexit and accepted that some areas of Tory policy needed refinement (as several senior tories have suggested post result), I think she could happily have formed a minority govt. without DUP help and come out of this much more popular.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Prime_Ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom_by_tenure
    Maybe she just wants to get up the list a bit. There was a very funny twist in the Australian PM change where they ousted the very unpopular Tony “budgie smugglers” Abbot about a week before his gold plated pension would have been earned. Knifed and twisted there… Is there anything like that in the UK?

    The smart plotters will know that she needs to take the fall for a few things first in order for them to come in on the up.

    rone
    Full Member

    Somebody tweeted me an acronym but I’ve lost their details.Hats off to whoever suggested Conservative and Unionist Negotiating Team

    Armando Iannucci

    jonnyboi
    Full Member

    It would be interesting to know if for example the 1922 committee agreed with her jumping into bed with the DUP. The whole thing smacks of her continuing to misread public opinion to a spectacular degree.

    Her public speeches since the election have also been pretty delusional, are her supporters even believing the BS?

    DrJ
    Full Member

    It would be interesting to know if for example the 1922 committee agreed with her jumping into bed with the DUP. The whole thing smacks of her continuing to misread public opinion to a spectacular degree.

    Well it looks like yet another U-turn cock-up, as the DUP say that the Tory announcement of a deal is not true. More strength and stability. Not.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/10/theresa-may-dup-deal-snag-tory-rebellion

    igm
    Full Member

    I’m told that the humane and efficient thing to do is give her a head start, then let the news hounds chase her until they catch her and rip her apart in a quick and painless kill.

    I couldn’t comment of course as I have no real knowledge of the issue. 😉

    Klunk
    Free Member

    LOL if Boris falls for that one his more of a fool than we ever thought 🙂

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Chancellor demands softer Brexit for business

    You might as well call the whole thing off 😀

    igm
    Full Member

    I’d like her to stay on. I always like watching political reputations slowly being disassembled in the full glare of 24 media and twitter.

    She could have looked for a 52:48 Brexit that worked for all. She didn’t.

    Time for revenge I think.

    But then I’m not a nice person am I. 8)

    Nipper99
    Free Member

    Is ‘bloody difficult woman’ the same as ‘bloody ignorant woman’.

    piemonster
    Free Member

    Just bloody stupid

    kimbers
    Full Member

    The smart plotters will know that she needs to take the fall for a few things first in order for them to come in on the up.

    Yeah she’s just a punchbag right now, they’re pushing May’s personal friendship with Foster
    Hoping the DUP toxicity can be owned by May, not the whole party.

    And we thought they were ruthless dismantling Cameron’s reputation!

    Pigface
    Free Member

    The fat Pinnata looks like he is being lined up to finish TM, IMO that would make this disaster even worse.

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    The fat Pinnata looks like he is being lined up to finish TM, IMO that would make this disaster even worse.

    For who?

    Pigface
    Free Member

    Everyone 😆

    kimbers
    Full Member

    So wait, despite the Gov saying last night they’d made a deal with the DUP

    they’re now saying that they haven’t agreed one yet.

    The Coalition of Chaos tag couldn’t be more true 🙂

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    Everyone

    I don’t know, the longer this omnishambles continues, the stronger labour gets. They don’t really need to campaign anymore, the tories are doing it for them…

    flanagaj
    Free Member

    I have been crossing my fingers that no deal is agreed and we have to back to the polls. I’d vote Labour next time around as I think it would be fun to see how badly a Socialist party could shag the economy and up brexit 🙂

    jam-bo
    Full Member

    I’d vote Labour next time around as I think it would be fun to see how badly a Socialist party could shag the economy and f!ck up brexit

    The bar has been set pretty low.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    . I’d vote Labour next time around as I think it would be fun to see how badly a Socialist party could shag the economy and f!ck up brexit

    Is that like cranberry paying his £3 to vote for Corbyn to destroy labour as an electoral force

    How did that work out again….?
    😆

    Klunk
    Free Member

    the daily fail is having a nervous breakdown at the moment, everyones to blame except immigrants and the EU 😯 😀

    dissonance
    Full Member

    they’re now saying that they haven’t agreed one yet.

    No more progress until Monday apparently since the DUP will be too busy locking up swings and the like to do politics. Perhaps Corbyn could send them a photo of him working in his allotment and ask if that is permissable to confuse things a while longer.

    slowster
    Free Member

    LOL if Boris falls for that one his more of a fool than we ever thought

    In ordinary circumstances it’s possible that encouraging Boris to make a leadership bid could be a trap, but these are not ordinary circumstances.

    Every cabinet minister and every Conservative MP now knows that May is a disaster in an election campaign, and they also know that they probably only have a year or two at the very most – possibly even only a few months – before the next election.

    The Conservatives know that they must stop the rot and reverse what is looking dangerously like a sharply downward trend. Simply electing a supposedly safe pair of hands as leader like David Davis or Hammond etc. is not going to be good enough. They need to turn things around very quickly, and Boris is the obvious, and probably only candidate with the star quality who might be able to do that.

    I suspect it’s not a case of Boris deciding when to make his bid, but rather that he is letting the BSDs in the party come to him as supplicants asking/begging him to take on the leadership and get them out of the mess they are in. Boris is probably in a position to demand a very high price to take over as leader, e.g. complete freedom of choice of cabinet members, and sweeping control over Brexit negotiations (not a hard Brexit or a soft Brexit, but a Boris Brexit).

    If Boris takes over, then I would expect an early election: there is no way he would try to persevere with the DUP deal, which will only damage the Conservatives (and him if he is leader) the longer it lasts.

    MrWoppit
    Free Member

    “Boris Boris Boris Boris…..”

    *ahem*

    Andrew Mitchell

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    It would be interesting to know if for example the 1922 committee agreed with her jumping into bed with the DUP

    they ordered her not to do a formal coalition hence why its an informal arrangement- even the TOries dont want to get into bed with that lot

    Del
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    fwiw worth jambs, in this country your house can be sold to fund your care and they’ll keep taking your money until you get down to about 23k IIRC.
    what was wonderful about may’s u turn on that social care policy, aside from how quickly it happened and how damaging, was that actually, we do need to have that conversation. it wasn’t that bad an idea.
    she didn’t loose because of that alone, it was because they’d done such a bang up job of making the election about her versus corbyn, but unfortunately she made it very apparent to everyone just how much vacuum there is in place of a personality. she wouldn’t debate anyone, she wouldn’t take any questions outside of the party faithful, and she had no answers for the difficult questions. all corbyn did, by contrast, was be consistent.
    i’m not altogether sure that corbyn would do well if there was another election right now. it’s not that he’s great, just that the tories are shit.
    after the referendum, everyone went back home from the holiday in UKIP, and the 48 voted tactically. unfortunately the lib dems weren’t a credible force, so the 48 went for the least worst option, which was simply to get the tories in to a much weaker position.
    mission accomplished.
    if brexit does go ahead now, we’ll end up retaining all the features that most stuck in the craw of the leavers, freedom of movement etc. but at least we’ll still have the customs union and a lot of the other benefits. mind you, we’re going to have to pay for it, and end up the ginger step child of the EU for a long, long time.
    our best bet, now, really is to call the whole thing off.
    i’ve never been so intrigued by politics.

    kerley
    Free Member

    i’m not altogether sure that corbyn would do well if there was another election right now. it’s not that he’s great, just that the tories are shit.

    Don’t agree. Corbyn was offering policies that haven’t been offered for years and a lot of people like them (what they will deliver and the fairness to approach).
    May was offering no policies that anyone could like and sticking to the same old we need to save money so can’t improve our public services (even though tax rises are staring them in the face using money from the ‘magic money tree’). They could offer the same but won’t because it would upset the rich people they are there to support.

    kimbers
    Full Member

    Fallon getting taken apart by Marr right now 🙂

    Hypocrisy of alliance with DUP after monstering Corbyn

    Turns him into a maybot soundbite machine…..

    Del
    Full Member

    if corbyn’s policies had really chimed with the electorate he’d be measuring up no. 10 for curtains right now.
    don’t get me wrong, i’m delighted with this result, but being less shit than the other lot is not really a win.

    i’ll be amazed if boris takes the job. brexit was always a poison chalice and he’s too shrewd for that. he was waiting in the wings for that to blow over before stepping up. i think the only way he could do it and pull it off would be to go for referendum 2.

    BoardinBob
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    if corbyn’s policies had really chimed with the electorate he’d be measuring up no. 10 for curtains right now

    Or if the knuckle draggers weren’t so influenced by the right wing gutter press

    Do we really need to repost the election day front pages of the Dail Heil and The Scum?

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