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Just went to my final performance review, wasn't fired but spent 20 minutes listening to my boss telling me I had not done things that she had never told me to do.
I'm shaking and I actually think the arteries in my neck are about to explode.
Put it in the shredder or she wins.
Has she got any evidence to say you haven't been performing during the year and has spoken to you formally about this?
Do you like being there?
Is it a good job?
Is the money ok?
Are the people you work with ok?
If no to all of the above just leave.
Life's too short.
Has she got any evidence to say you haven't been performing during the year and has spoken to you formally about this?
if she has, then it ought to conflict with his own:
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/i-have-cold-hard-evidence
I think the receptionist has to take some of the blame here
OP maybe shes one of those 'keep you on your toes/keeps you working hard' style-managers?
Either that or its a way of telling you forget asking for a payrise.
I've met managers like this, they are higher than you but they are [b]not[/b] leaders or respected.
Have been in a similar situation for the last two/three years.
BUT today I do have my resignation letter in my hand and it will be in the bosses hand in under 3 hours time ๐
As iolo says life is tooo short there's pretty much always a way of getting by and happiness cannot be bought ( unless it has two wheels :lol:) have a proper think about it don't rush into a decision but if your not happy get out.
Well recalled Stoner.
Off you go to HR saying you're feeling bullied by your manager and felt under pressure to sign the PR, take the evidence you mentioned. Well copies of the evidence keep the originals.
What Drac said - Calm down, the return to her and politely suggest that you can't recall thge issues in question, and ask for it in writing.
If she refuses, you could - again politely - suggest you could not accept a performance review on that non-evidential basis. If your company has an HR she'll be forced / you could ask them to intervene on the basis that would she insist on placing those issue into your review without evidence or refusing to entertain your request.
Its your review, whats said about you is not a one way street.
Saves you being inconvenienced waiting for your pass I guess. Every cloud and all that.
What Drac says - after everything you told us before, you've got to go and make a formal complaint at HR, if only to strengthen your case for constructive dismissal further down the line!
Off you go to HR saying you're feeling bullied by your manager and felt under pressure to sign the PR, take the evidence you mentioned. Well copies of the evidence keep the originals.
+1
@Tom - it's Friday, let it go for today.
Go to HR, write your boss and hr a note to say where you disagree.
You could have a chat with your boss's boss saying it's clear they are trying to force you out, you can go but you'll need a payoff. IMO you'll get nowhere with hr or your boss.
Also definitely do not sign the review, not now not ever.
Had similar a long time ago, the woman boss hated me, she kept finding mon existent tasks i hadnt done, or conversations we never had, in fact she told another employee i had about as much chance as staying there as a snow ball would have in the fires of hell, i resigned and she sacke me by recorded delivery same day, and what a happy day that was.
Think youve reached the same place,go straight to HR if a big company or resign if a small insignificant place.
Go and have a cup of tea.
When everything seems clearer speak to some people you trust with some life / employment experience and come up with a plan.
It's only a job.
Not sure how large your business is but policies are in place for a reason. Ask for evidence, if it doesn't appear, raise a grievance.
Without going into too much detail - I got fed up with my boss' bullying style of management and raised it with HR.
I got moved to another manager temporarily whilst the investigation took place but the controlling continued so in the end, I got signed off for 4 1/2 months with stress whilst it was resolved.
The investigation confirmed my accusations and I'm now back at work and she's been reprimanded and placed on stringent targets regarding her behaviour. I refused to go back with her and have been moved into a nicer team with better prospects.
At the time, I hated going through the process but it was the right thing to do, not just for me but for anyone else that works with/for her.
Keep accurate notes of conversations and dates and how you actually felt/emotions. Even if your manager takes notes, make your own and don't sign anything you're unhappy with.
WEEKEND, TDF ON TV, feet up, ride pm and forget about everything and then start a fresh monday.
Hmm, there is a bit of a theme here about raising things with HR.... and every thread we have on here seems to suggest HR are there to protect the company first, individuals second.....
+1 for chill if you can, its the weekend. Chat through with a trusted colleague. Look from a different perspective then act...
Aha, I've got it. The receptionist is your boss isn't she?
He got to meet her so i doubt it
Why not just find a job elsewhere? For your own sanity and wellbeing?
I've had managers like that - there seems to be more of them than decent ones and IME they only manage like that because they don't have the emotional intelligence to behave otherwise. If they did have the appropriate amount of emotional intelligence then they'd be managing you properly!
The conclusion I've come to is no amount of explaining to them why their management style is ineffective (by you, HR, their boss, anyone) will ever be very effective - they just don't have the base materials to understand how to communicate properly... (and sometimes it's just bullying, in which case you're better off out)
Kick her in the chuff, storm out turning on the bunsen taps on and burst though the front doors to a rock track backed explosion. Jump aboard your harley and race off into the sunset...
or have a cup of tea and re-do your CV
.....well I went cross eyed.
I resigned with immediate affect, although this appears to have royally ****ed them off as they are still adamant they want to pay me for 4 weeks so that they can say they suspended me.
So it looks like I have to say that I went to find myself in Vietnam for 6 months in my next interview....
Tom_W1987 - Member
.....well I went cross eyed.
Well that's one way to relieve the tension, even if God kills a kitten in return.
Hah.
My missus is going to murder me. Oh well, when all else fails there's always the Foreign Legion right? She won't be able to lecture me to death if I'm in Corsica.
ooops.
Careful now - she's won. If "they" (she?) want to say they've suspended you thats a very childish personal persecution with no evidence and therefore unfair dismissal. If I was you I'd get HR involved or some independant legal advice ASAP.
I resigned with immediate affect, although this appears to have royally **** them off as they are still adamant they want to pay me for 4 weeks so that they can say they suspended me
?? How can they say that they suspended you? Confused here.
Sorry if I handed my notice in and by reply they said that I'd be pissed off.
When you say you went cross-eyed. What do you mean? Are there any gaps you aren't telling us about? Seems very odd for a company to say that to you post-notice.
Attitude problem and I have to give them four weeks notice apparently. I didn't give notice, I basically resigned on the spot citing continual undermining by my boss making me unable to carry out my work effectively.
I don't care, I don't regret it and never will.
Then it sounds like constructive-dismissal.
EDIT:too slow...
**** knows? They said they wanted to give me a good reference in the 1st probabtion review if things didn't work out...I had one genuine issue in that initial probation review that I sorted out, if they suspend me and an employer want's to check if I've ever been suspended....I now have to cover it up on my CV.
Hmm, there is a bit of a theme here about raising things with HR.... and every thread we have on here seems to suggest HR are there to protect the company first, individuals second.....
If you have the stomach for a fight, it will cost the company involved a lot of management time and compensation money (especially if you can prove discrimination). HR protect the company against these costs and slap down bad managers. At my redundancy appeal the HR bloke shut up as I presented my case, he knew I had done my homework and they were screwed.
Anyone on here work in a lab? ๐
I now have to cover it up on my CV.
This still doesn't make sense. They didn't suspend you, so you have nothing to cover. You resigned, what you tell any future employer is up to you
Given whats gone on, I'd suggest setting up a meeting with HR next week if you can be bothered and discuss the issues at play here.....
They cant force you to stay if you've resigned, nor can they hold you to your notice period.
I'm not sure either, they may be thinking they don't have to accept the resignation as it states in my contract that I have to give them four weeks.
Notice periods are almost impossible to enforce.
If you really want to go just don't turn up. They won't pay you obviously.
Sounds like you've missed a large chunk of story out of how it got to this stage.
Yes, I think you've been caught spunking into the milk. Shame on you!
Tell them you don't accept their suspension due to the fact that they have no authority over you as you are no longer an employee.
Put it all in writing.
They must know there's no conceivable reason to force you to work out notice, or even be suspended during it. At best, you would be pretty unproductive during that notice, to put it mildly.
They must also realise that you walking rather than dragging them through disciplinaries and potentially tribunals is a positive thing for them.
+1 Meeting with HR, as suggested. You may have cooled off a bit over the weekend, and actually regret resigning on the spot. Or not!
Sounds like you've missed a large chunk of story out of how it got to this stage.
Not really, I posted something else a while back. My boss just seems to dislike me, my performance has been fine with others...there have been hiccups when working with/for her but these were mostly down to poor instructions on her part.
However...she's never wanted to have to train me either...I was thrown into the deep end when I started this job, she expected me to hit the ground with my feet running having never done this type of job before and having just gotten out of university....and I'm being paid well below the average wage for this job....basically they wanted someone they didn't have to train and who they could also pay a pittance....because of my academic record but lack of experience they thought they could do that with me.
For example...she didn't even have the time to train me in the lab techniques they were carrying out, we do lots of different types.....but it was often a matter of...here are the crap protocols....here are the histology samples that we need sectioning...I'll show you once how to section....now section, stain and mount our samples from this massively expensive study....which you can easily **** up.
At the same time...and this is the part that really ****s with my head and I can't even begin to explain it...is she managed to micromanage me all the ****ing time without ever training me adequately.
I blame running important time limited experiments while trying to get an ID card.
