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Okay, so something about Lynx mention in the Girlfriend Advice thread got me thinking...
My ex gf used to have a habit of wearing "man's" perfumes; latterly the Chanel Allure one I bought her. The thing is; it really did work on her. It's not that she was particularly butch or anything, no matter how much she might have thought she was.
Perfumes either work or not based on a combination of the scent and your own scent. it's not just a case of splashing on product-x and that's how you'll smell.
So, if it turned out that a scent meant for the other half really worked on you, would you?
(and yeah, yeah, I'm not asking about other things, clothes, whatever - I really don't want to know!)
Rachel
no, that's crazy talk.
why would it work ? it's ridiculous.
I wear the wifes ck one.
CK One is meant to be unisex, IIRC. An ex wore it. She smelled lovely.
Mrs CFH and I share several, such as Jo Malone's delicious Lime, Basil and Mandarin.
The key is, does it work on you as a person? If so, go for it!
I like to think I'm a pretty confident chap, but I'd draw a line at dabbing Estee Lauder on my chops.
man wearing perfume = nonce
CK One is meant to be unisex
just like me then........ 😆
Perfumes are the most ridiculous thing to split along gender lines so why not. That being said I'm not a fan of strong smells in general and floral ones in particular.
just like me then........
#strangestbonerrightnow
I sometimes borrow my GFs deoderant and smell amazing. Does that count?
No, and I'd be annoyed if my wife nicked any of my occasional stuff as it's ridculously exspensive but last me about 2 years so justifiable, as general just smell of oil. 😉
I let my missus borrow my GT85 sometimes
No - it really doesn't last two years. it goes off quicker than that...
If it does not smell good on the person why wear it?
I mean if the perfume is good then regardless of whether you are male or female it will smell good.
I use rose scented shower gel which is meant for women apparently but I smell good that's all I care or at least that's what others told me ...
However, if your diet is very heavy on red meat/dairy then you will give out certain strong odour (of rotten meat) regardless of how much perfume you shower or pour on yourself.
I used to work with a S. African colleague whose diet was mainly red meat of all kinds ... guess what ... everyone could smell him miles away.
😯
edit: I only wear after shave ... think I got a bottle of CK somewhere that I never wear.
A few perfume facts:
CK One is unisex, it's a very nice perfume loaded with amber. Smell your shirt the day after wearing CK One to get the amber, a lovely zingy zesty smell.
Most perfumes don't interact with your body odour because they are just too strong. However some people do find that certain smells work better on them and that's mostly to do with diet - in parts of the world where spicy food is eaten, you will never find spicy oriental perfumes like Opium or Shalimar; most people use florals.
Some "masculine" poerfumes like JPG Le Male and Rochas Pour Homme are so feminine that women can often wear them. Others like the vetiverts and colognes are unisex and some aromatic fresh masculine fragrances like 212 for Men smell good on women.
The great smell of WD40 is actually a very very low cost Shalimar.
Keep expensive perfumes in the fridge to prevent spoilage by UV light and oxidation.
Never re-apply a perfume during the evening because you think it is getting weak; it's your nose that is becoming saturated. Some raw materials like the synthetic musk used in White Musk are fatiguing. If you reapply a perfume you destroy the "sillage" which is the evolution of the notes as it evaporates and you will overwhelm everybody else in the room.
Chanel V was created in 1921 and is still in the world top 10 selling perfumes, which makes it a design classic.
Late PS: Africans have more and bigger sweat glands than Caucasians (Europe and India) and they have more and bigger than Asians (China) so Africans generally use stronger perfumes. Meat does not rot in your guts, you would die if it did.
@ Rusty, do you mean nonce or ponce? I could understand ponce but nonce?
I don't even wear the "right" one.
My favourite perfume was allegedly worn by Margaret Thatcher 👿 , so I'd class that as "the wrong perfume"
I think I would. But until recently I wouldn;t have.
TBH, until recently I'd never found a perfume for me that I liked. Now I have (Creed Aventus). So if there was a "female" branded perfume but it smelled great on me, then I'd be happy to wear it.
I used to live with a girl who was exceptionally attractive. She wore Davidoff Old Spice and it worked very well for her. She didn't half pull some munters, mind. Rich ones though.
I like all my missus' perfumes ,bar one,which smells like an old ladies scent.
I made the mistake of telling her that fact..........
We(she) approve mine together 🙂
Unfortunately EU legislation has killed Brut, along with a few other classics.
Like the difference between diet coke and coke zero I suspect what's on the bottle is more important than what is in it much of the time.
"The Wrong Perfume" - is that the next Wallace & Gromit movie? Gromit starts wearing Eau de Lady Dog, suddenly Wallace finds himself inexplicably attracted to his Dog Friday?
🙂
Some technical challenges the perfume industry still hasn't cracked:
A vanilla molecule that doesn't turn body care products brown.
The smells of fresh bread, coffee and new car.
A molecule or compound that is genuinely sexually attractive.
The only thing I ever bother with is deodorant and then it's just whichever one I pick up at the supermarket, I don't bother trying them first.
Usually something like Nivea or Gillette or Sure etc.
globalti - MemberUnfortunately EU legislation has killed Brut, along with a few other classics.
Whhhaatt! Explain! 😯
Brut is amongst my favorite after shave.
Many old classics like Brut have been badly emasculated by EU legislation, especially those which relied heavily on synthetic musks (most of the smell of Brut!) because the EU has decided certain musks are either carcinogenic or bio-accumulative.
I occasionally wear Aramis 🙂
Globalti, did you Google all that shit, or do you "just know"? 😯
Edit; For the op, I never have worn the wife's perfume, wouldn't have a problem with wearing it, though. But then, I've got bottles of fairly expensive aftershaves that I rarely remember to use. 😳
I use Issey Miyake deodorant sticks.
I think they all smell like crap
globalti - MemberMany old classics like Brut have been badly emasculated by EU legislation, especially those which relied heavily on synthetic musks (most of the smell of Brut!) because the EU has decided certain musks are either carcinogenic or bio-accumulative.
Thank you for the info. I see ...
Carcinogenic? Do they mean that we are going to accidentally drink a bottle of it ... 🙄
I suggest they ban all plastic containers (BPA whatever) for food stuff even when they food safe ... hot food and plastic ... no no ...
annebr - MemberI occasionally wear Aramis
Yes, I forgot about Aramis. It is one of my favourite but for whatever reason I never bought one but bought a CK instead many years ago. Not sure why and I think my CK is about 20 years old ... still nearly full. I blame the advertisement.
I can remember using 'fahrenheit' smelled like parma violets. My girlfriend also had some smelly stuff that smelled just like parma violets.
Same thing with a sandalwood smell
Same with some lemony Armani stuff
All just industry standard smellies
Just marketing innit
+1 for CFH choice of the Jo Malone one-that often gets the thumbs up from the fairer sex
duntstick - MemberI can remember using 'fahrenheit' ...
That thing is reek and gives me a headache. 😯
That's not a perfume but industrial chemical ...
I use CK one occasionally but mostly daisy by Marc Jacobs. Neither smelled nice on my ex
Neither smelled nice in my ex
Well quite...
Edited 😳
I had a good female friend who said that one of the Givenchy aftershaves / mens perfumes made her instantly wet, almost embarrassingly so.
So I never wear them.
But Global, you said
A molecule or compound that is genuinely sexually attractive.
Surely the pheromone mixes we've got of small fatty acids do exactly that? Even if they don't smell that "nice"?
I occasionally carry the delightful scent of gun oil and fibreglass resin.
A heady brew only slightly ahead of proper four star petrol.
So, marketing aside, what is the difference between a perfume aimed at women and a perfume aimed at men?
What would be a "masculine" scent and what would be a "feminine" one?
Er, no bins 😆
I don think perfume has ever had that effect Moses!!
There are some D&G ones which are very very nice though
I remember when ck1 first came out in the early 90s. It seemed like everyone was wearing it (including me). You couldn't walk more than a few hundred yards without getting a whiff of it from a girl or boy
I produce my own little love scents occasionally, usually preceded by a little love call.
I work in the perfume industry export concentrated perfume in massive tonnages to factories that make soap and other smelly products. It's one of those jobs you hear about then you think: "Of course! How does the smell get into my shower gel or shampoo or detergent?"
We employ three chemistry graduates full time on compliance and a large amount of their time is spent in keeping up to date with the latest piece of EU legislation concerning maximum dosages of certain supposed allergens or irritants or whatever that are allowed in a product. We also emply five perfumers and most of their time is also wasted in modifying existing products to fit the latest legislation. Modifications are always done with the customer's knowledge. As chewkw points out above, you would have to feed several litres of these raw materials to a volunteer for a couple of years before they suffered any harm but that's EU paranoia for you.
On pheromones, if there really was one that worked we would be selling it by the shipload, believe me! The aphrodisiac effect is entirely in people's heads, as far as we can tell!
On male vs.female, female perfumes are usually more floral in character with subtle woody and musky notes to give substantivity on the skin whereas men's perfumes are usualy fresher and more citrussy or woody, without the floral notes - with a few notable exceptions.
Somebody mentioned Cool Water - this is technically a very interesting perfume in that the perfumer used some materials called Galbex, precylemone B, Calone 1951 and di-hydro myrcenol, which had only been used until then to give freshness in things like fabric conditioners and at tiny dosages like 0.01%. In Cool Water they were employed at unprecedentedly high dosages of up to 4%, which is what gave Cool water that amazing fresh ozonic smell. The benefit to consumers is that those materials were never sold for use in luxury perfumes so they are cheap, which is why soon after Cool water was launched the supermarket shelves were full of cheap masculine toiletries with very good copies of Cool Water in them.
I smell gorgeous in Chanel #19
I don't wear it but, God, I'm irresistible when I squirt it on in airports 😀
allthegear - MemberNo - it really doesn't last two years. it goes off quicker than that...
You mean I need to have a bath more than every 2 years?...FFS
Old Spice Classic ... I like. Got few bottles of those now.
Ya, I would do her wearing Old Spice ... 😆
globalti - MemberI work in the perfume industry
So what 'shelf life' do they have on average?
Allergic rhinitis...most perfumes are intolerable, but especially floral ones. Walking through the front of any department store is painful.
I had an ex burd who used to 'wear' a mans's one that I was racking my brains trying to remember till I read
annebr - MemberI occasionally wear Aramis
that was it. It worked quite well on her I think
I was going to say yes - I bought a bottle of Hermes Jardin sur le Toit perfume at duty free last month.
However I've just Googled it and it turns out its unisex anyway.
http://usa.hermes.com/perfumes/to-share/jardins-collection/jardin-sur-le-toit.html
On shelf life: perfume ages like wine as oxygen and UV get to work on it. Simple perfumes like lemon containing just a few ingredients can go off quite fast but most perfumes contain 30 to 60 ingredients and there's nothing there in a high enough dosage that it will ruin the perfume if it oxidises. Usually after two years a significant number of consumers would be able to smell the difference between aged perfume and factory fresh. You can delay the ageing process in your alcoholic perfume by keeping it in the fridge.
If you think a department store smells strong, try walking into our heated warehouse where some of the more viscous raw materials are stored at a permanent 30 C to keep them liquid. The stink gets into your clothes and you will still smell when you get home; Mrs Gti always knows when I've been in the factory.
If you think a department store smells strong, try walking into our heated warehouse where some of the more viscous raw materials are stored at a permanent 30 C to keep them liquid. The stink gets into your clothes and you will still smell when you get home. Mrs Gti always know when I've been in the factory.
My mum used to be a nurse in a hospital which was next to an industrial perfumes plant and she says you could always tell when they'd had an accident on site as within seconds of the patient coming into A&E the whole place would stink to the point where it stang your nose and people would be rushing to open windows.
I do, I was Christmas shopping many moons ago with a friend who wanted to buy some for her dad, used me as a guinea pig, and I really liked Ultraviolet for men so now that's my go-to fragrance. Maybe I am butch.. think I am too camp for that though!
Some of the raw materials are so strong that we use them as 5% or 2% dilutions in an odourless solvent for ease of dosing, added to a mixture at say 0.1% and then the finished perfume used in a product like shampoo at 0.5%.
We have flasks of stuff like rose absolute, which are worth $8000 a kilo and smell nothing like rose until you dilute them back down to 1 part per million, which is their original concentration in Nature.
Globalti - bounce me an email please
I think they all smell like crap
I think your nose has a problem. Too close to your arse'ole, perhaps? 😉
Gti: great info 🙂
definitely [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonce_(slang) ]nonce[/url]@ Rusty, do you mean nonce or ponce? I could understand ponce but nonce?
CountZero - MemberI think your nose has a problem. Too close to your arse'ole, perhaps?
Think it is all to do with all the chemicals so fake and artificial. I hate going near the cosmetic section of department stores often makes me feel sick or gives me a headache.
@ globalgti - Is it just marketing budgets that push fashion house perfume brands at us more readily than those from perfumers (even big ones like Fragonard)? Also do the likes of Fragonard and Molinard produce other branded perfumes under contract for the fashion houses?
There's a real STW niche opportunity here - Eau de Beardy Singlespeed....
I had a perfume experience recently. While dining with work colleagues in Nando's (yes yes I know) a group of girls asked me if I'd mind taking a group photo for them. Now, they were all asian and every one of them was hot as hell, so whilst pretending to faff around with a phone I did some comedy zooming but couldn't bring myself to leave the poor girl with a high def zoom picture of her mates very firm cleavage.
Anyway, at that point in time and where I was standing I was overcome with what felt like the entire contents of Boots perfume counters, and for the first time in my life I couldn't get past it enough to start some banter.
Obviously I'm getting old, but this to me is proof that the "right" perfume in subtle tones is the way to go.
You shit yourself?
Not this time, no.
Globalti, would love to ask you a techie question but not for general consumption. Could you poss email me?
@ globalgti - Is it just marketing budgets that push fashion house perfume brands at us more readily than those from perfumers (even big ones like Fragonard)? Also do the likes of Fragonard and Molinard produce other branded perfumes under contract for the fashion houses?
I'm not much involved with the couture side of it, thank God, but I did work in Paris for a couple of years. The prestigious perfume manufacturers probably make so much money from a few exclusive contracts that they don't need to make a loud noise. We never come across them at out industrial end of the business.
The quality couture perfumes are manufactured by anonymous contractors and distributed by huge groups like LVMH who make extravagant profits despite their massive advertising budgets. It is after all the advertising that creates the dream into which consumers want to buy.
I wore the women's version of Safari for a few years thinking it was the blokes version,...it did coincide with a particularly dry spell....
come to think of it, the bearded trucker at the Rock Cafe in Niagara falls was the only one to ever comment on it,....'Someone sure smells pretty'..... i left quick sharp!
I don't much like perfumes. Generally they are overdone. Non-perfumed anti-perspirent is my limit.






