Would high mileage out you off a newer diesel car ?

So saving 8 pence a mile and 80 quid a year

So 900 quid a year at 10k miles.

How much is it costing you to save 900 quid ?

Thats assuming that mondeo gets it book mpg and going off what you say your getting from your smax.

So real world its probably 500 quid a year

My Mondeo has averaged 51.5 on computer in 40k miles

Aye but ford computers seem to be good at telling owners what they want to hear rather than real facts.

If I can get a cost to change of 1500-1600 then I would be happy.

Its a year newer car than mine, more desirable spec and therefore more sell able come the time to sell it.

it costs me £100 quid to do 490 miles.

If petrol is at £1.12 ppl what does that work out at mpg wise

26.5mpg

So nearer 1k a year saved again.

Makes sense if you can get it close to 1.5k to swap then.

Im still subscribing to better the devil you know.

Hence why I want rid of it.

The smax is truly a nice car dont get me wrong but it is really poor on fuel.

The above figures are on a car with brand new tyres set at the correct pressures and new brakes that arent binding. Sat @ 70 mpg on cruise.

If a mondeo can get 45mpg plus then thats nearly 20 more than my car manages.

I know what you are saying about better the devil you know and all that !!!

it costs me £100 quid to do 490 miles.

If petrol is at £1.12 ppl what does that work out at mpg wise

I can’t believe that an adult would have to ask that question… 🙄

V70 is just run it. DPF is not the same as the PSA engines. This is a Volvo engine not some froggy poo. Owen says it as it is. Don’t expect 50 mpg from it, it wont do that. Its a nice car and not much is Ford on it, just generic stuff you find on all manufacturers like ATE.
Having driven a Focus diesel estate and owned a V50, they are leagues apart even if they share the same floorpan. The focus is cheaper, blander and nasty. V70 is big car and will be slightly better on fuel than the Smax. The 5 Cyl engine is a great engine. But if you are changing for less size and much more MPG, might not give you what you are looking for. But it will give a nicer and more pleasant drive.

it costs me £100 quid to do 490 miles.

The above figures are on a car with brand new tyres set at the correct pressures and new brakes that arent binding. Sat @ 70 mpg on cruise.

When did you last do 490 miles @ 70 mph?

How the hell do you know exactly which car has ‘motorway miles’ and which doesn’t?

You can only guess, but you generally don’t do 100k miles in 3 years going to the shops and back.

we have found a 2010 volvo v70 2.0 diesel d3 model with 77k on the clock with fdsh.

up at 10490

He has just offered me 9k fir my s max against the vovlo which isn’t enough.

If I can get a cost to change of 1500-1600 then I would be happy.

10490-9000= 1490.

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@renton

Having briefly looked at some of you other car post I would suggest a low mileage car from a rock solid local dealer would be the best option.

You may not get the most bang for buck but you don’t come across as a car expert(no bad thing) and 10k wil buy you a very nice family car that’ll do 50 plus mpg all day long. Wouldn’t touch a Ford personally all their money goes into marketing not the cars, try a Hyundai, Kia or Skoda get a manufacturers warranty and push them for more( service, valet, mats, roof bars whatever you like plus discount, ) right up until the last moment, they need you more than you need them. Try buying on the last day of the month!

What will a 5yr old V70 with 90,000miles be worth in a years time?

What do 2009’s book at now PXwise? (So the OP can guage how much he’ll loose v mpg difference…if he keeps the Smax).

Davidtaylforth. We travelled down from Elgin to Worcester on the Sunday before Xmas. This journey is mostly all motorway and a9.

Hora we are considering the mondeo in the link above now. In 2 or 3 years that will be worth more than the s max

But that Mondeo is the same size as the s-max…. It’s the same car but lower?

If you’ve got the itch to buy a new car then fair enough.

If your buying either the mondeo or Volvo to ‘save’ money it seems like a lot of faff for a potentially small return and the risk of buying a car that you may inherit problems.

Is there a school of thought to buy a car with 120kish rather than 90k miles on it as the bigger service/ bills are around 100k?

In any case, a new (to me) car gets a new cam belt and oil change as soon as i’ve bought it. But if you buy second hand expect bills.

Not being rude here OP, honestly, but you don’t seem to be making a whole lot of sense. Which can be understandable when you are a bit too focussed on the wrong thing. Or perhaps, more accurately, not focussed correctly on the right thing(s). What are the facts and what are the requirements?

You seem to want a newer car that is cheaper to run than your current car. Currently you have a Mondeo? Then WTF do you want to be looking at a Volvo V70 for?? This is a slightly bigger, probably much heavier car than you currently have. To pursue this as an option just doesn’t make any sense if you are wanting to reduce your motoring costs. To reduce your costs you almost certainly want to be dropping a car size to something like a Focus or Astra or Octavia. We had a Mondeo until earlier this year. I really loved that car. It was a great car but it got to the point where it was becoming obvious it was to big a car to be lumping all over the place with mostly just me in it. Averaging 600-700 miles per tank – but it was a huge tank and before the recent diesel price drop was getting scarily close to £100 to fill up. So we took the decision to downsize a bit and accept that for the couple of weeks a year when we really do need lots of space (summer holiday for a family of 4 adults) we will make the compromise to take less with us or get a roof box. However, for the rest of the year we get better fuel economy, cheaper to fill up and are creating less pollution. We ended up with an Astra estate. It’s actually a pretty nice car to drive, is slightly more sprightly than the Mondeo but most importantly it still gives me over 600 miles to a tank but costs me only 2/3rds the cost of the Mondeo to fill up.

So, work out what you really need from the car first and then look at the cars that will fulfil those requirements. And that should give you a more refined way of deciding what to look for. I would suggest though, that the answer is not a V70. 🙂

Renton, why don’t you go down the personal lease route. Pick a smaller new car (auris/civic/focus/golf), PX your old one, pay a nominal amount for 3 years (you could pay £50 per month dependant on the new car) and just change every 3 years. No worries about bills, depreciation etc as you just swap for a new one after 3 years.
Speak to a few dealers, this time of year they are itching to sell new cars.

Bikingcatastrophe……. Classic case of not reading the thread.

I own a petrol s max which isn’t very Good on fuel at all.

95% of the time it’s also to big space wise to be lugging around.

It also has an automatic transmission.

We have moved to Elgin which is near 500 miles from my wife’s elderly parents and using the s max cripples us in fuel and tax.

Therefore we are looking at moving to a diesel estate car with a generous size boot for our Springer. The mondeo and v70 fit the bill.

Ved is costing you 21pence a day more than the mondeo will and the fuel will be 10pence a mile less in the mondeo .

Is that good then ?

Work out annual milage and the difference in fuel over that time.

Then factor in risk of any of the big 4 1000quid repair bills that older diesels are at risk of. – and decide if its worth spending money to save money.

I dont get fixated on the cost of taxing a car , over 10k miles its a small % of the cost.

We have moved to Elgin which is near 500 miles from my wife’s elderly parents and using the s max cripples us in fuel and tax

The tax thing is a total non issue compared to how much it costs to buy, sell and fuel cars (especially at the rate you seem to want to change). Again, no offense, but do you have a family member or friend that could help you with these decisions (and viewing used cars), because you don’t seem to have much of an idea. You are confused, and all you’ll get on here is more confusion.

If you can afford it, the (new car) leasing route, could make a lot of sense for the OP.

Bikingcatastrophe……. Classic case of not reading the thread

Apologies. Yes, you are right, I did only skim read the thread and missed the bit where you said you had an S-Max. {Although, in my tenuous defence, that is really only a Mondeo with a different skin 🙂 ]

You say that 95% of the time it is just you in the car. Is that really just you, or is it you and the dog? If it is just you then the remainder of my original post is still valid. Why not consider downsizing more to a medium family sized estate? Both the Mondeo and the V70 are BIG cars. Your dog isn’t that big. Why not consider the Focus, Astra, Golf, Octavia, Leon sized cars?

trail_rat – Member

I dont get fixated on the cost of taxing a car , over 10k miles its a small % of the cost.

Mmm. Depends on the cars. I looked at a petrol and diesel variant of my car, the difference in tax each year was enough to pay for a replacement turbo, or nearly 2 brand new injectors… So it can be pretty significant, it’s pretty much cancelled out the “diesel difference” in fact, until the DMF or fuel pump go.

Though to be fair, that’s a fairly extreme example, with smaller petrols the gap is much smaller. But then people tend to swing towards extreme examples of additional diesel costs, especially exaggerating the price of injectors etc, or forgetting that petrol cars have clutches.

trail_rat – Member
I dont get fixated on the cost of taxing a car , over 10k miles its a small % of the cost.

It’s only a small proportion if your other costs are high.

Octavia £30 car tax, c.£1k in fuel.
Mondeo 2.0 petrol £285 c.2k in fuel.

It’s also handing if you have to make occasional but unplanned £1000 mile trips to get the cost below £100.