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What's your favourite conspiracy theory?
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TravisFull Member
“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.” -Josph Goebbels, Nazi propaganda minister
Thought this was a press release from the Chinese Government when I first read it.
helsFree MemberI quite like the theory that putting pieces of tin foil up around the house improves wi-fi reception. Not sure if that is a conspiracy quite so much as a great practical joke that went viral.
However I do strongly believe that Elvis is still alive. I have no evidence, just faith.
konabunnyFree MemberHas nobody mentioned the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and its modern-day conspiracy theory counterpart, that 9/11 was a Jewish plot and no Jews went into work at the WTC on 9/11?
philconsequenceFree Memberi was going to mention the jewish thing, initially about the whole ‘the holocaust was made up by the jews’ but then the subject turned to 9/11 and i figured i’d sit back and let people get in a tiz about it all.
everything i learnt about jews i learnt from southpark, even TJ would agree on how reliable the information is.
camo16Free Memberi was going to mention the jewish thing, initially about the whole ‘the holocaust was made up by the jews’ but then the subject turned to 9/11 and i figured i’d sit back and let people get in a tiz about it all.
everything i learnt about jews i learnt from southpark, even TJ would agree on how reliable the information is.
Then you believe in Mr Hankey the Christmas Poo?
I want to believe!
helsFree MemberI read an article a few years ago discussing what to do with the sites and artefacts of the nazi death camps. Some have been kept but of course are falling to pieces, and any restoration will play into the hands of the holocaust deniers and conspiracy theorists “that wall was clearly built in 1980 it’s a zionist conspiracy to justify the state of Israel” etc.
Quite sad, what do you do with a warehouse full of human hair ? It is evidence on one level. Destroy it, and there is no evidence. Maintain it and be accused of faking the whole thing.
RealManFree MemberSuggestions on google when you type in Barack Obama is…
An alien
A cactus
The Antichrist
Your new bicycle
A Muslim
Irish
A clone
A terrorist
An Illuminati
A communist
A freemason
A homosexual
A homophobeand so on, and so on..
philconsequenceFree Membersounds like the inspiration for camo16’s new book realman!
camo16Free Membersounds like the inspiration for camo16’s new book realman!
Wha-ha-hat? I have to shoehorn in a misunderstood President, too?
philconsequenceFree Memberhe’s not misunderstood he’s a homosexual homophobe! google said so.
binnersFull MemberPhil – Family Guy is also a rich source of accurate information about our Jewish cousins.
camo16Free Memberhe’s not misunderstood he’s a homosexual homophobe! google said so
Ah right. Got it. Let the shoehorning commence!
The new character, then, is an alien antichrist cactus with homosexual tendencies and an aptitude for homophobic epithets.
He’s going to be quite a complex character, which means the book’s going to work on many levels. Excellent.
** rubs hands together and sniggers **
helsFree MemberWhich is ironic, as my jewish cousins are a good source of information about Family Guy.
konabunnyFree MemberSome have been kept but of course are falling to pieces, and any restoration will play into the hands of the holocaust deniers
Aren’t they all maintained (and presumably must have undergone actual reconstruction at some point)?
M6TTFFree MemberFlight 93 was definitely brought down by the us government to avoid another strike – the story about the passengers taking over the flight was fabricated to give the country something to be proud of.
toys19Free MemberM6TTF – Member
Flight 93 was definitely brought down by the us government to avoid another strike – the story about the passengers taking over the flight was fabricated to give the country something to be proud of.
Source?
CountZeroFull MemberWhat do you know about demolition to say that it’s untrue? More than the various experts on demolition of large buildings, architects, scientists, engineers etc who have all presented their own theories that the towers’ collapse was brought about by a controlled demolition?
There was a very good British program about the towers examining in detail the actual structure of the towers, why they were built the way they were, the materials used and the affects on those materials of intense heat over a sustained period combined with the catastrophic affects of a couple of hundred tons of jet liner travelling at four-five hundred miles per hour. It concluded something along the lines of the structure collapsing because the fire retardant coatings on the central steel core were compromised by the impact, allowing the steel to weaken and sag, causing the collapse of the top of the building into the weakened section, which then became a continual and progressive collapse of the whole structure. It was built to withstand the impact of a piston or small jet airliner, not the size of jet that actually hit. The Empire State building had an airliner fly into it, but survived because it was a structure supported by it’s walls, not a structure with a rigid central core and outer walls and floors cantilevered off of it. Compromise that central core with intense heat beyond the original design limits and you have a catastrophic failure. And if it wasn’t several thousand gallons of avgas burning furiously that caused the fire damage, along with all the other flammable contents of the towers elfin, then can you point to another equivalent source of combustion please. Enquiring minds want to know.
Back to the OT, my favourite C/T of the moment is the chem trail one, there’s even a nutcase keeps writing into the Western Daily Press about the US tankers spreading metals like bismuth over our skys. No explanation as to why. Even my cousin got in on it after I posted a photo on Fb with a load of contrail induced Cirrus. I replied with a debunking web link that seemed to shut her up.yunkiFree Memberroadies are the new masons.. I’ve seen them all doing those funny little hand signals down by their hip..
I passed a gent out for a stroll on the moors with his lady friend the other morning.. I smiled and they smiled and then the fella gave it one of those little roadie signals.. 😯
Well.. I hotfooted it out of their giving frantic V-signs and bemoaning the lot of the working class as I went..
I think this conclusively proves that all roadies are illuminati lizards.. from their garish clothing I would hazard a guess at chameleons prbably..
ElfinsafetyFree MemberEnquiring minds want to know.
Really? Where are they then?
jolly well have not seen many on here, I must say…
toys19Free Memberjolly well have not seen many on here, I must say…
Stop looking in the mirror then.
KevevsFree Memberthat I will conspire to have a calm and nice week with others. zen kev 🙂
ElfinsafetyFree MemberI knew toys woon’t be able to resist. 😆
For someone who thinks he’s ‘right’, you seem awfully keen to prove others wrong, Toys (even though you’ve still not actually proven your own claims to be correct really) . Whassamatter; teeny tiny bit of doubt in your mind, is there? Thought so. If you were so sure, you woon’t bother wasting time with crankpots like me now, would you? 😉
It’s ok mate; we none of us know the truth. Just that some of us admit it, whiles others just pretend that they do…
ElfinsafetyFree Memberyawn. elf you are an enormous prick.
Yay! He’s resorted to personal insults! 😆
I win!
I love you too, Sweetcheeks.
You seem tired. Time for bed, perhaps?
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toys19Free MemberYay! He’s resorted to personal insults!
what and this isn’t?
Elfinsafety – Member
Enquiring minds want to know.
Really? Where are they then?
jolly well have not seen many on here, I must say…
Naughty edit by the way.ElfinsafetyFree Memberwhat and this isn’t?
No; it’s generally condescending rather than personally insulting. 🙂
I’m nice and relaxed Kev (unlike some others). Just having a bit of pizza actually. Too hot to sleep here.
KevevsFree Memberwhatever ye ****. just imagine them thar hilz n stuff. gonna be a good week mate Ice cream all the way
MrSalmonFree MemberFlight 93 was definitely brought down by the us government to avoid another strike – the story about the passengers taking over the flight was fabricated to give the country something to be proud of.
That’s a good example. I believe plenty of people saw the plane come down, and nobody thought it had been shot down. Then there’s the phone calls to the families and the cockpit voice recorder. I suppose the recorder could be faked, and eyewitnesses are unreliable, but I don’t see how you’d get round the passenger’s families. And then there’d be the people actually involved in shooting it down who all need to keep quiet, and the need for somebody to give the order, which I doubt anyone would have been prepared to do. To my mind the passengers having a go is far more plausible.
konabunnyFree MemberAll of these “9/11 was an inside job” conspiracy theories hinge on vast numbers of people keeping schtumm about their plot to kill thousands of people who they regarded as “their own”.
grantusFree MemberThe WTC was designed to withstand the impact of a similar sized plane to those which hit them. Fully laden with fuel. The planes that did hit them were not – so I have read – fully laden as they were on shorter domestic journeys. I have read this from what appear to be genuine and professional sources on line. I accept that these sources may not be accurate, however, assuming they are, then the towers were designed to survive the impact. Of course, it could be possible the design calculations were flawed – devil’s advocate here – and there are equally professional and expert appearing resources which claim the towers were not designed to withstand the impact. Someone is right and someone is wrong.
However, a catastrophic failure of the steel leading to collapse doesn’t really explain to a layman (i.e. me!) why all the concrete in the building turned to dust.
Of course, we are used to seeing video of controlled demolition of no more than 20 or so storeys in this country of buildings which have been stripped bare over weeks or even months so I appreciate a 110 storey tower falling which has not been prepared for demolition may not display the same characteristics we are used to seeing in terms of the resulting rubble, etc. however it looks suspicious to so many people IMHO because they both fall in such a regular and virtually identical way to each other.
The planes hit at different heights, different angles, and at different points on the building and yet the structures both proceeded to fall down in almost the exact same way. The fires would have been decreasing in intensity as they spread because all the fuel would have been burnt off. If they burned at over 700 or 800 degrees C or whatever was required to melt the steel then how come people one or two floors above could be seen waving for help right up until the collapses? If the fires were that intense as we are lead to believe then they would have spread rapidly and you would have seen flames licking out the building. The link I posted shows examples of other far more severe high rise fires and the entire buildings are engulfed within minutes.
Watching newsreel footage of war zones from WWII to the present day, you can see how buildings are destroyed by high speed impacts from missiles and subsequent fires – there is always some part of the building left behind due to irregular collapse i.e. the collapse emanates from the impact zone. The footage you can see on you tube makes it look like the twin towers collapses started much higher above the impact areas.
I also find it unusual that there is such limited footage of the strike at the Pentagon. Wouldn’t that area of the city be full of people and tourists at that time of day? Granted, not quite a lower Manhattan but I would have expected someone to have captured footage of a jet approaching the area on a collision course. And that’s before you get into the pilot skill involved in being able to hit that building where it was alleged.
Notwithstanding all of the above – four planes hi-jacked by stanley knife wielding nutters? come on!!! bet the PLO wish they’d come up with that one in the 70s.
But what do I know? If you think it is unbelievable that Americans would be complicit in the act of murder of their own citizens then you need to do some digging – chemical and biological warfare experiments have been conducted on numerous occasions post WWII on whole towns.
Incidentally, those of you getting ripped into the guy for not swallowing the official line – what do you think about the follow-up Anthrax attacks?
KlunkFree Membercould/would you build a structure with a fail safe demolition system built in ? maybe to prevent some kind of “domino” effect.
konabunnyFree MemberI also find it unusual that there is such limited footage of the strike at the Pentagon. Wouldn’t that area of the city be full of people and tourists at that time of day?
No – it’s not in downtown Washington DC, it’s across the river and surrounded by wide highways and exits. There’s nothing to see there. It’s also about 700m from National Airport, so a low-flying plane around there would not have been particularly remarkable to the casual observer until the last few seconds.
Are you, in fact, unfamiliar with the location of the Pentagon if you’re asking that question?
I was, as it happens, just a couple of kilomteres away from the Pentagon at the time. Of course, that might suggest to you that I am some sort of plant that They have sent to spread disinformation.
Notwithstanding all of the above – four planes hi-jacked by stanley knife wielding nutters? come on!!! bet the PLO wish they’d come up with that one in the 70s.
There was no need to hijack planes with knives in the 1970s because the sophistication of airport security was so low at the time. For example, in 1970 the PFLP was able to simultaneously hijack three planes leaving Amsterdam and a plane from Frankfurt; all the hijackers were armed with guns. A few days later a PFLP sympathiser hijacked another plane from Bahrain, and it was flown to the same location as the other planes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawson%27s_Field_hijackings
Remember also that the objective of the PLFP/RAF/JRA etc hijackings was usually to obtain prisoner exchanges and/or money, not to kill civilians.
KatoFull MemberI’m not losing sleep over that Niburu Collision malarky
Not while Bruce Willis is alive anyway…..
grantusFree MemberYes, I am unfamiliar with the location of the Pentagon,other than it is in Washington DC. Obviously makes me a nutter lol!
Would you not think there may have been some more footage of the crash in Washington?
What about what I wrote about NYC? you just picked up on the fact I don’t know the precise location of the pentagon to dismiss me as a crank!
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