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weird, i've ridden that half a dozen times but don't recognise half of it (same with the other vid posted last week)

nice vid though - not often you can actually see the trail in front instead of a front wheel

Different day, different trail maybe. And thanks - I'm sure the wide angle lens helped somewhat.

Just found the great video you talked about from last week - sorry to repeat the same trail! Looks like a nice day in that one

... if a little icy

You were ruled by that sheep to the second gate!

I was thinking the trail looked different too, until I slowed the film to half speed, then it looked right.

Ha - indeed! Took the corner well, didn't it! I think it was waiting there just to dish out a lesson in Respect

I was thinking the trail looked different too, until I slowed the film to half speed, then it looked right.

😳 🙁

Nicely filmed (and ridden - I've never tried that far right on the steep bit).
I particularly liked the tracking shots with their echoes of David Lean's 'Lawrence of Arabia', and the distinctive sound of hail ricocheting off a helmet.

Thanks. Did you catch the girly whoop over one of the first of the gutters at the top? No? Good, I got away with it

cracking trail, good vid, like the hail too! 🙂

so then, bash fans - does anyone ride right up the climb to the start of that vid

don't think I've ever got half* way up it

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Still not cracked all of it, all at once. Much props to thems that can

I've a 50:50 chance of "adjusting my pack/helmet/gears" even up the road climb to there, if we're totally honest

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top vids max.

i thought you only came out at night - did the sunlight hurt your eyes ?

You seemed to miss out the steep technical section? is that because you went right at that gate?

You missed the best bit!

Nope

err, meaning that's where the bridleway goes down to Rosthwaite, and I don't remember missing anything out. If only I had video evidence! ;-D

[i]so then, bash fans - does anyone ride right up the climb to the start of that vid[/i]
I've never even heard of anyone making it. Most climbs (Jacobs Ladder in the Peaks being the prime example) everyone knows someone who claims to have done it. I've never heard any such boasting about that one. God knows how many times I've attempted it, that's one of my all-time favourite rides. Never made it more than about 1/2 way without dabbing.

good vid, love that descent

You should have stayed straight on instead of going right through that 3 bar gate. The steepest most technical bit is just round that corner!

I'm a little confused. The main Watendlath to Rosthwaite bridleway goes through that 3 bar gate, and so did I. Describe the bit that is just round that corner?

Steep with full compression step downs and no obvious line.

Have a look at the map [url= http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=Watendlath&countryCode=GB#map=54.52838,-3.1381|16|4&dp=os&bd=useful_information&loc=GB:54.53712:-3.12067:14|Watendlath|Watendlath,%20Borrowdale,%20Keswick,%20Cumbria,%20England,%20CA12%205 ]watendlath[/url]

going through the gate takes you down the left fork, whereas staying straight on takes you down toward Hazel Bank. Its quality.

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I reckon there's probably 3 kosher (as in obvious route rather than not-footpath as I've no idea about that). I've definitely done 2. They've all been great.

I wondered if that was why none of the vids looked familiar?

W,T,Fing,F are those tyres ?????

Lord only knows, I just googled it.

Isn't that picture the section Max is dropping down from 0.55 to 1.20 ?

No definitely not, its much steeper than that, and is basically the last bit of the descent usually.

Then the track turns left and you come to the gate (on your right) for Frith Woods ?

Yep parkedtiger, that's it

Max is on the section your photo shows at 1.15 defo.

He completely categorically definitely isn't.

Good grief this is a famously technical lakeland descent, does any of max's video look technical?

Speeds your friend and the camera always makes it look less steep/technical than it actually is.

Not wanting to wave Max's willy Richyb, (least not without rubber gloves :?...would that get me some freebies if I pop down to the shop tomorrow..on second thoughts, no :-)), I think he's just gone down so quick you don't notice and the vid flattens it out a bit. I have to pick my way down there like a normal human. It's the section on the vid from crossing the stream until you see the sheep.

The technical section is the bottom of the route, it flattens out and you're at a track in the bottom of the valley almost immediately after it, you certainly don't have another 2 minutes of decsending and a gate to go through. I'm amazed no body has backed me up on this. Have a look at the map I posted above, there are two distinct bridleways towards rosthwaite, look at the contour lines on each.

Max is on the bridleway to Hazel Bank, the other option to firth woods forks off at the hole in the wall 1.30'sh on the video. Thats where the bridleways split on the map. Do you mean the footpath section above Hazel bank??

On the map, the split in the bridleway at 'Resting Stones' is the end of the steep section in your photo. The left fork (looking down in a map view) takes you down through Frith Wood to Borrowdale Road; the right fork is the rest of the vid. Do you mean the footpath down to Hazel Bank maybe ?

If he's on the bridleway to Hazel bank at 1.25ish how do you explain the next 2minutes 10 of descending?

Honestly if you'd ridden it you'd know, its not on his video.

The right fork is the image above, Max takes the left fork on the map through frith woods.

Rode it last sunday and ride it at least 15 or so times a year its my local trail 😉

Presumably you always go through the gate like Max does? try going straight on and come back to me.

Next time you're in Keswick Richyb, give anc and I a shout and we'll all go and take a look together 😀

Alternate them mate so know both very well. Max definately doesn't go to frith woods.

Maybe you're right then? bizarre.

😳 Apologies all, you're right and i'm wrong. Just watched another video.

It appears Max is "de man"

Your pic Richyb is the section called Birkett's Leap on the OS map, and as you just realised, 'de man' did it on the video, but rode it further right than I ever have (and faster).

Max, what bike you riding? I thought you were on a downhill bike the speed that you're going, but then you mentioned other trails on the 'Bash route so figured you must just be a very good rider ( 🙁 and 🙂 together)

"You seemed to miss out the steep technical section? is that because you went right at that gate?"

"You missed the best bit!"

I have to say Max is the only rider I have seen ride UP (from Rosthwaite) to Birkett leap (the techy bit) without dabbing! Now that takes doing! 😀

I think I am right in saying hes been pretty close on the Watendlath climb as well! (It has been cleaned!)

yeh, I've a suspicion that max has picked up several of the bits of lung I've spat out on that route & he's obviously using them better than I was

Kona Coilair, unless my eyes deceive me.

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Nice work Sir!

Nice video Max, finally took the plunge on the cam then! I've got about 3 or 4 recorded Borrowdale rides but have never got round to editing them for entirely the reason mentioned above... it looks way too flat for what it is!

on the steep technical section, did you hop across one of the washed out lines onto one of the bigger rocks to descend on the left? I normally stick right and roll the steeper hanging off the back section instead (and probably easier) at your speed you might have launched though.

Nice video (& the other 2)

Iain
go to http://www.ridethelakes.com/ for my vids!

Blimey what a lot of posts. Glad to have provided some entertainment!

Max

Are you aware of the fact that had you been on a Cove you would have:

A/Not got a puncture
B/Gone much faster

?

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Brain the size of a planet............

I think I am right in saying hes been pretty close on the Watendlath climb as well! (It has been cleaned!

Its definately dooable I know someone who's one dabbed it. 😉

Its in the best condition its been for a bit at the mo, the loose section 3/4's of the way up which gets ends most good attempts has packed down a bit over the winter.

Here's a picture that really shows how rocky this trail is! about half way through the top section on the vid you hit this section.

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Stay right and you'll be all right. There'a 4ft drop on clearing the section but hey that's got to be better than cutting through the erroded easy long way round.

[url= http://ibbo.pinkbike.com/album/Lake-District/ ]A couple of other shots from the same trail[/url]

Looking up the trail:

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And looking down from the same point.(Different rider though)

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Both taken mid December

Borrowdale bash part one,With Frith wood decent. 😉

Warning Clarey Morris content!

filmed October 2006 Clare was a lot less experienced on the bike so we were a bit steady then, gives a nice idea of the decent,Its recentley washed out at the bottom so take care if you do it soon! 😀

Watching my Vid kinda makes you realise how fast Max was riding down there! 😈

After many evening KMB rides the best route seems to be over to the right,but crossing into the left hand side about halfway down!

Theres a nasty rock near the bottom on the left and Max actually gets knocked off line slightly in his vid, I think its probably better to keep right all the way down although its not the faster line, but possibly more technical.

Enjoy. 😀

It's at a fun decent for sure well captured on film and a "legal" bridleway { as the rules say wayback in 1968... but thats another topic [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridleway#Bridleways ]Wiki Bridaleway[/url] no mention of bikes here}

The real challenge mention above is the climb up from Watendlath it has been cleaned way back early'00 by legends like sy and friends but hey kudos to anyone that can ride and film that. Reminds me of the early days of climbing when routes where un certain, a free for all “Lets try that” kinda attitude. Seems the mtb community has taken on the ski style grading blue, red, black! but surly there's a cardio {distance and gradient} aspect and the tech challenge {obstcales} to consider before a route can be graded. {Cleaned}

I'm new here!! Do the Watendlath TV peeps know of a post that discusses the current grading system for tech 26'' MTB big hill accents/decents...