UK state should pay for housing, food, transport and internet
No, it’s not communism. Communism means the state owns all economic activity. This does nothing of the sort. You are still free to go out and work and make much more money, the point is that if you don’t or can’t, you’re still ok. You now have the choice to ride round the world or paint squirrels for a year or whatever.
The UK would soon dominate sport and a major new artistic golden age would develop.Posted 8 months agojimdubleyouSubscriber
Isnt this perilously close to communism.
No, It’s not perilously close to communism.
Then, what molgrips wrote.
I am in favour of everybody being provided the means to live a “basic” life by the state. I suspect I might end up paying for it through my taxes, but I’m ok with that if I get the associated societal benefits.Posted 8 months ago
No…. People should get what they deserve. If they want things they either go out and get a paid job, or they fund them by performing crap community services type role, sweeping the streets, cleaning graffiti etc.
I’m all for being fair, but there’s enough lazy slobs in the UK without encouraging more.Posted 8 months ago
Just knock six grand off everyone’s tax bill.
Give some people choice between a roof over the head and a meal – they will still light up thencrack pipe.
It would have to be vouchers /soylent green or something to ensure they eat and dont sell the structure of the house in piece parts to fund their habit.Posted 8 months ago
Why is work so important?
Because the country is in a crap state, make them work cleaning up hospitals, make them work sweeping the gutters, trimming hedges, looking after the elderly.
I don’t get why I have to work and others don’t ? Sure there are exceptions with disabilities and old people, but you go into every town/city and you see thousands upon thousands of people who are not working but are still giving housing, etc…. Sod that, get them doing something useful.Posted 8 months agoperchypantherMember
Might already be happening.
I remember reading somewhere about a country (I think it was Australia) which issues a benefits card which can only be spent on food, housing, transport and other basic needs and can’t be spent on booze and fags and drugs.
Edit : Yep, Australia… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18951205Posted 8 months ago
molgrips – Member
How do you define ‘earn’ ?
Is the person who helps an elderly neighbour, does voluntary work and cleans local litter not deserving compared to the complete arsehole who works in sales driving all over the country in a flash polluting car to schmooze clients?
Both are equally deserving, however, you’re missing what i’m saying… Neither of these people are the problem, they’re not the situation that’s being solved… it’s the 100,000s of people who do neither that are the issue. Why should they be funded ?Posted 8 months agoPeterPoddyMember
Why is work so important?
Aside from the fact that there are jobs to be done as Weeksy says, it teaches people the value of money, and gives them an appreciation of where it comes from. Too many people know the price of everything but the value of nothing. I don’t see why any fit and able unemployed person should sit on their arse all day. Yes, I have been there, yes I would have gladly worked for my £70/wk as I knew it was only temperoary for me, but I’m a lazy bugger and I would have gladly done nothing if I’d not had a motgage to pay and a wife to not let down….Posted 8 months agolungeSubscriber
Another question – who here would quit their job if they had £500/mo basic income? Would you sit around all day watching telly?
With housing, food, transport and internet paid for then me, absolutely. Household income of £1k per month (tax free I assume) with no major costs coming out? I’d do it tomorrow without any thought at all.
What would I do? Ride my bikes, run, build stuff. Nothing productive but just stuff. Might throw a few months of work in each year to give me enough to go on a nice holiday but yeah, I’m keen.Posted 8 months ago
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