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  • Jamze
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    This should help purge it Jamze https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZsoesa55w

    lol. God Save the Queen is supposed to be good too. Off on the bike for a few hours, see if I can clear it…

    thols2
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    @frankconway
    Exactly.

    tjagain
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    Trunp simply throwing his toys out the pram with no basis in reality?

    This

    pondo
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    for hardcore pro-Trumper, nothing is true unless Trump says it is.

    Jordan Klepper is consistently brilliant at highlighting the illogical thinker.

    thols2
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    fadda
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    Any thoughts on when we get put out of our misery…?

    dissonance
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    Having wrote that out I can make an educated guess which it is actually

    To make it easier to guess. Trump is pro continuing to vote in Arizona where the gap is narrowing in his favour but against it elsewhere when its going against him.

    thols2
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    He has a wealth of $2.5bn.

    I don’t think anybody, including himself, actually know what his net worth is. He seems to have all sorts of dodgy loans and financial arrangements and if his credit gets cut off, he’ll have to sell golf courses and hotels in the middle of a massive drop in tourist numbers. My guess is his net worth is closer to zero than $2.5bn.

    Klunk
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    who does he pay back first ? Deutsche bank or the russian mob ? does he have a prenup ? whatever he’s worth might be halved in a couple of months.

    frogstomp
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    Anyone else find the reporting (by the counters) of count running totals a bit bizarre?

    All of the votes have been cast, so it seems to serve no useful purpose other than to enable and stoke the divisive ‘we were winning and now it’s been taken away from us’ narratives that we are seeing. The need for a spectacle seems to override the binary nature of the vote…

    oldnpastit
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    He might end up losing by a whisker, but clearly, his approach of lying and creating conflict is quite effective. Even if he does leave, others will adopt the same approach, not just in the US but also over here.

    csb
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    @frogstomp you need not overthink it beyond your summary analysis. This is the US after all….

    The need for a spectacle

    edhornby
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    If I was Deutsche I’d have called them in well before now, they knew how much exposure they had to the don but the waiting is odd. Watching him have to sell golfcourses will be funny

    frogstomp
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    @csb indeed.. you reap what you sow and all that..

    grum
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    Even if he does leave, others will adopt the same approach, not just in the US but also over here

    Did Brexit/the last election pass you by? 🙂

    Thanks for the link btw

    GrahamS
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    Tucker Carlson saying “It’s okay, they have failed to destroy America”

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZS4Jrb2w/

    (Apologies for TikTok but I’m not giving his YouTube any hits!)

    grum
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    Anyone else have a slight guilty wish to see things properly kick off over there? My rational brain doesn’t but it wouldn’t be boring! ☺️

    P-Jay
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    Any thoughts on when we get put out of our misery…?

    BBC are saying all counts should be complete in the next 24 hours. That doesn’t mean Biden won’t have ‘won’ before then.

    They’re also saying that the post-election fights will probably continue right up to the swearing in ceremony on the 10th of Jan.

    deadlydarcy
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    Anyone else have a slight guilty wish to see things properly kick off over there?

    Sheepishly raises hand. At this stage, a peaceful transition of power would be a massive anti-climax. 😀

    dakuan
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    username checks out 😀

    P-Jay
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    Anyone else have a slight guilty wish to see things properly kick off over there? My rational brain doesn’t but it wouldn’t be boring! ☺️

    I’m almost certain it will. With Trump Jr using words like “War” and the actual, real world President of the US speaking from the White House to say that their democracy is under threat, there’s no way this is going to calm down any time soon. That speech alone last night will have created Domestic Terrorists who think they’re doing the right thing.

    Edukator
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    his approach of lying and creating conflict is quite effective

    If he gets kicked out after just one term he’ll prove the opposite. Bush senior was the last to lose after one term and that was after Reagan’s two full terms so three terms of republicans. Trump is set to lose only 4 years after taking over from the democrats.

    ransos
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    He might end up losing by a whisker

    He’s going to lose the popular vote and electoral college by a substantial margin.

    cookeaa
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    Any thoughts on when we get put out of our misery…?

    Wikipedia says the US has 1,365 deployed Nuclear warheads… Just saying…

    Riksbar
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    He might end up losing by a whisker, but clearly, his approach of lying and creating conflict is quite effective

    The thing is, he won’t have lost by a whisker, he’ll have lost by well over 3 million votes, but due to the bizarre electoral college he will have failed to become president despite a clear popular preference for his opponent by a whisker.

    To put this into context that is the entire populations of both Dakotas, Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska and the District of Columbia.

    reluctantjumper
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    If I was Deutsche I’d have called them in well before now, they knew how much exposure they had to the don but the waiting is odd. Watching him have to sell golf courses will be funny.

    I’d imagine they have had to wait due to some sort of legal protection he has as a sitting president, they’re just in the queue like everyone else until January.

    kelvin
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    Sounds like the other networks are enjoying the Trump cult turning 100% against Fox this week.

    frankconway
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    In Pennsylvania trump’s lead is now down to 18,000 – and reducing steadily – with 97% of the votes counted.

    crazy-legs
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    In Pennsylvania trump’s lead is now down to 18,000 – and reducing steadily – with 97% of the votes counted.

    How many votes is 3%? Is it more that 18,000?
    As in, could there be 25,000 votes still to count?

    Edit: I agree entirely with this:

    All of the votes have been cast, so it seems to serve no useful purpose other than to enable and stoke the divisive ‘we were winning and now it’s been taken away from us’ narratives that we are seeing. The need for a spectacle seems to override the binary nature of the vote…

    It just seems to have turned it all into a bit of a gameshow.

    funkmasterp
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    I normally have little interest in the US elections, but this has been fascinating. I really hope Trump ends up in a proper jail and not a country club with a ten foot high fence around it. Sadly I don’t think that will happen. He’ll end up with his own TV show or something because this is America we’re dealing with.

    Does anybody have a link to details of everything on the ballot? I need to know who’s winning Best Cat.

    Edukator
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    About 6.6 million votes in total. So around 200 000 left to count of which Biden will probably get over 70%. He should win. Edit: In Pennsylvania

    eddiebaby
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    My landlady is a lovely devout Christian and very tolerant but she was very upset about all this voter fraud with the mail in ballots and loads of Trump ballots being dumped and more Democrat ballots than there were people in the city etc, etc.
    She’d seen it on TV.
    The channel in question in Revelation TV.

    It is pretty much as you’d expect.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revelation_TV#:~:text=Revelation%20TV%20is%20a%20UK,and%20is%20also%20available%20online.

    Klunk
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    black votes matter

    Joe Biden almost dropped out of the race to become the Democratic presidential nominee this year after several disappointing results in early voting states – until black voters in South Carolina delivered him a resounding win.

    And while the race between Biden and Donald Trump remains too close to call, it appears Black Americans once again stepped up to give the Democrat the backbone of his support, especially in key battleground states including Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Record turnout among African American voters could be the difference between a Biden win and a Biden loss.

    “What we’re all re-learning, both the pundits in DC and uninspired Black voters, is the value of our net worth when we show up at the ballot box,” said Antjuan Seawright, a Democratic strategist in South Carolina. “Even when we’re suppressed, depressed, or misinformed, we still show up.”

    According to exit poll data, Black voters overwhelmingly backed the Democratic candidate by a margin of 87% to Donald Trump’s 12%. But Seawright had “been saying Black voters will decide the election since 2017”, last predicting South Carolina’s loyal Black moderates would propel Biden to victory in the state’s February Democratic primary.

    With ballots still being counted, mail-in or absentee ballots from Democratic-leaning counties, most with large Black populations, are likely to be the deciding factor in who becomes the next US president, amplifying the power of the Black electorate.

    Analysts pinpoint a surge in turnout among young people of all races, but especially Black Americans.

    molgrips
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    @crazy-legs up to date stats here: https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html

    275k votes left to count. 18k deficit for Biden. Most vote batches are coming in with 80% for Biden which would mean about 165k in Biden’s favour. If that keeps up, it won’t even be within recount territory.

    frankconway
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    crazy-legs, 3% still to count in Pennsylvania is 195 – 200k votes.

    perchypanther
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    I need to know who’s winning Best Cat.

    Whichever wins, Donald’ll grab it.

    Edukator
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    devout Christian and very tolerant

    Never, ever met that combination.

    perchypanther
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    Never, ever met that combination.

    Perhaps you’re intolerable?

    grahamt1980
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    Not many votes being counted according to that tracker. About 100 or so counted in the last 2 hours.
    Not sure its right

    Edukator
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    Only “perhaps”? Try Googling “devout Christian” as opposed to just normal “Christian”.

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