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  • U.S. Presidential Election 2020
  • Premier Icon inkster
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    Now that he’s gone, time for a fair and balanced assesment I think.

    Watch till the end….

    Premier Icon leffeboy
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    I very much enjoyed poet lady Amanda Gorman.  Something you wouldn’t catch me saying normally

    Now that he’s gone, time for a fair and balanced assesment I think

    Excellent vid as well, he’s got skills

    Premier Icon deadlydarcy
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    Thanks everyone for contributing to the thread. I never thought it would be so bigly when I started it. 😀 It’s been great fun especially on the first weekend as we all watched Biden start to overtake Trump in the key states. Special thanks to thols for his Twitter reportage.

    Probably best let it sleep for four years and we can resurrect it again and rename it in 2024.

    Onwards to the Biden thread I guess.

    Premier Icon thepodge
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    Office argument need settling.

    Could a president who has served 2 terms then be elected as vice president further down the line?

    Premier Icon matt_outandabout
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    Now that he’s gone, time for a fair and balanced assesment I think.

    Watch till the end….

    Well played.

    Premier Icon whitestone
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    @thepodge – no or maybe yes. The twelfth amendment states:

    “no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.”

    While the 22nd amendment states:

    concerns qualifications for election, and thus (strictly applying the text) a former two-term president is still eligible to serve as vice president (neither amendment restricts the number of times an individual can be elected to the vice presidency), and then succeed to the presidency to serve out the balance of the term (though prohibited from running for election to an additional term)

    It’s not been tested yet!

    Premier Icon thepodge
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    So probably but unlikely.

    Premier Icon whitestone
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    Gerald Ford is the only person to have served as president despite having never been elected to either the presidency or the vice-presidency (Nixon’s VP, Spiro Agnew, resigned so Ford was taken on as VP. Nixon was then impeached in the Watergate scandal and resigned so Ford then became president). So could Ford have then served two terms? I.e. is a partial term counted for the purposes of the constitution as a full term?

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    Could a president who has served 2 terms then be elected as vice president further down the line?

    The job that’s “not worth a bucket of warm piss.” No two-term President is going to waste their time as VP. Being an ex-President means 6-figure fees for speeches, book deals, etc. If the President dies, a two-term ex-President would be prohibited from taking over, so no party will ever nominate them.

    What would be more interesting is if you had a team of Pres. and VP who agreed to swap jobs and actually share the decision making. That would give them 16 years of power if they could keep winning elections. Doesn’t work if one guy does the first eight years, would only work if they agree to alternate the jobs.

    Premier Icon nedrapier
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    Plus: Trump in a support role for anyone else in the entire universe? No chance!

    Premier Icon thols2
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    I.e. is a partial term counted for the purposes of the constitution as a full term?

    They are limited to 10 years, so they can serve two full terms as an elected President, plus less than two years as an appointed President. Or multiple terms as an appointed President if they kept ending up as VP and the President kept dying.

    Premier Icon eskay
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    Proud Boys turning their back on Trump now

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html

    Premier Icon oakleymuppet
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    A potential mismatch between vaccine supply and demand “is not a commercial risk efficiently mitigated by the market or the MDBs,” the Citi advisors wrote, referring to multilateral development banks such as the World Bank.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-who-vaccines-exclusiv/exclusive-who-vaccine-scheme-risks-failure-leaving-poor-countries-with-no-covid-shots-until-2024-idUSKBN28Q1LF

    Premier Icon pothead
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    Plus: Trump in a support role for anyone else in the entire universe? No chance!

    Ivanka/Donald Jnr as president while he really calls the shots? I’ve got a hunch that was his grand plan all along (in the same way to Putin being Russian ‘PRIME MINISTER’ for 4 years while Medvedev was the ‘president’), hopefully last weeks events have ended any chance of this, but in today’s America not much would surprise me. I’ve said this before but if I was in Trumps position now, I’d be more concerned with some nut job, AR15 owning disgruntled former supporters than even thinking about running for office again

    Premier Icon whitestone
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    QAnon members confused – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55746304

    some in the QAnon community had an uncomfortable meeting with reality.

    Lovely.

    Premier Icon razorrazoo
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    Q’s been playing them all along!

    Premier Icon mrmonkfinger
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    Now that he’s gone, time for a fair and balanced assesment I think.

    Watch till the end….

    Well played.

    Raised a smile 🙂

    Premier Icon convert
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    Raised a smile

    He’s good. On the back of that one I watched a few of his others. He’s a big, white, bearded American in his garage – kind of stereotypical Trumpian. But he’s not – anything but. In a time when most you tump content turns the rant dial to 11 he has a calm yet purposeful style.

    Premier Icon thepodge
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    I like those Beau vids, nice bite size informed opinion.

    **SPOILER ALERT**

    The one linked above is good, only thing missing is his explanation of why fascism is bad, I don’t expect many Q or particularly right wing people are watching it but if they think those 12 points are then they probably think fascism isn’t such a bad thing so why not give it a go.

    Premier Icon GrahamS
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    Haven’t you heard? It’s not over yet. Trust the plan.

    Here, let this nice, not at all nuts, QAnon lady explain how Trump will become “19th President” of the free United States in March 4th: the proper inauguration date.

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSwMhpba/

    Premier Icon inkster
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    “The one linked above is good, only thing missing is his explanation of why fascism is bad, I don’t expect many Q or particularly right wing people are watching it …”

    That’s where we’ve got to unfortunately, having to work out how to explain to people that fascism is bad. Whilst I agree that it might not be reaching Q nuts and right wingers, I dont think he’s trying to work on them. He’s trying to work on us first, giving us the tools and some tips on how to start a conversation in a less adversarial (and entirely factual)way.

    I’ve been following him for the couple of years he’s been doing his channel and haven’t seen another journalist or commentator come close to him in terms of precision, prescience and integrity. He is a fierce intellect with an philosophical and sceptical approach.

    His weekly views must be in the millions now, so he’s managed to become a self financing, independent journalist, (or as independent as anyone relying on YouTube advertising revenue can be!). Though given the programme format Im sure Jack Hargreaves would stand a good chance if he decided to sue.

    It’s like watching Willie Nelson presenting Newsnight.

    Premier Icon somafunk
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    If “beau of the fifths” curious george cap badge is upside down then you know its gonna be a howler of a video.

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