The cyclist and the LGV driver,

There is a advanced stop line there for the cyclist, all the aggro could have been avoided if he put himself in the right place or just held back and joined behind the van,
On that road theres several more lights/pedestrian crossings where he could more than likely still got safely past the truck.

wicki – Member
The cyclist is the worst advert for cycling and brings shame on us all

yep I’ve already got a list of all LGV/HGV drivers in the world and to convince them that all cyclists are really nice people I’ll be sending them all Xmas cards personally apologising for all my best mates, bro’s and sisters for getting on bikes and daring to ride them in the same universe

thinking of doing easter eggs for taxi drivers

I reckon truck-wazzock has blocked the inside path to the ASL so bike-git has gone around the outside and remonstrated, setting the whole incident off.

I reckon truck-wazzock has blocked the inside path to the ASL so bike-git has gone around the outside and remonstrated,

1. There is no ‘inside path’ i.e. cycle lane to that ASL.
2. you dont HAVE to get to an ASL, they are there to allow you to position yourself in the centre of a lane through a junction IF you happen to be alongside a vehicle when you get to the stop line. He could have achieved this position in the lane by positioning himself in the centre of the lane BEHIND the lorry.

i think this is a case of 2 bellends squared.
the best place to be it behind the lorry getting a free draft, trying to get past it is just plain daft

1. I know – Ididn’t mean cycle path, just ‘the way through’
2. I know – but he didn’t
EDIT – in light of below, no offence taken

thestabiliser

Apologies, saw the ‘truck-wazzock’ but not ‘bike-git’ and presumed you were siding with cyclist as done nothing wrong. Missunderstood your post.

Usual speculation here about what might have happened before,because obviously no cyclist can be in the wrong.

Well there is a very limited number of folk and tbh the video is not that conclusive

As far as i can see the consensus is they were both being dicks and we are not sure what happened to start it/who is the biggest dick

PS straw man no one has ever on here said a cyclist can do no wrong.

He could have achieved this position in the lane by positioning himself in the centre of the lane BEHIND the lorry.

That would be the obvious and sensible thing to do. It’s probably what I would’ve done. It could just be that he was making his way up to the ASL on the right hand side though, and lights changed before he got there. Easily done.

Tribalism, I suppose.

I read that as “tribadism”.
Which kinda makes sense, seeing they’re a pair of canutes.

Suppose i’ve now joined the road rage dickhead brigade, as I have just come away from the first time i’ve left my car to remonstrate with another driver at traffic lights…I was seething.

It’s rather scary when that red mist descends, and im pretty embarrassed about my behaviour…I bet he isn’t.

White ranger Rover, private reg….driving like a bully. I hope he get leprosy and his tiny willy falls off.

And lo; Junkyard did return from Big Hitters mountain and proclaimed unto the benighted masses; “straw man no one has ever on here said a cyclist can do no wrong.”

Not really, it was in answer to the “imagine if” posts early on in the thread. Bearing in mind the sort of contributor that crawls out for the likes of the olympic bike protest or the “kicked the Audi/got punched” threads, it was only a small step till somebody pointed out that (off camera) the driver had just run over a baby robin,or the driver MUST have done something to provoke the cyclist. A lot of the contributors on any bike v car thread reinforce the clear hostility between us. And yes, I have been doored/knocked off by a car etc.

cyclist cant punch for toffee can he. Truck driver shows restraint, then gets fed up and takes him down in a jiffy.

Moral of story is don’t mess with hairy truckers if you are a 10 stone weakling. Its a shame he didn’t give him a good shoeing after being punched numerous times. Cyclist entirely to blame if you ask me.

However when it comes to the fight, I’m damn sure that if a driver gets out of his vehicle then the rider can take that as a sign that he is fully justified in striking first (pre-emptive self defence).

what are you on about? is that the way you behave on the road?

The radio soundtrack was better than the fight. Very poor.

Unless the driver had to get out for another reason – like moving the bike away.

Or discussing things, however heated.

Some folk are odd in life.

F*** knows what the cyclist was doing in that lane/position to go straight on…

well if he’d tried to pass on the left of the truck he’d be garnering ‘darwinism’ comments. (making no comments about the need/reason/inadvisability of passing the lgv – just pointing out a reason for being on the right)

Usual speculation here about what might have happened before,because obviously no cyclist can be in the wrong.

because of course whenever someone posts a youtube clip of a driver performing a quite obvious ‘punishment’ maneuver on a cyclist no one ever says “well he must have done something to deserve it, bloody helmet cam warriors”

pair of dicks.
I always keep well away from trucks. if it looks like i’m going to get caught in no mans land i back right off and wait.

being right doesn’t mean much when you’re dead

What punishment maneuver? Posters on page one of this thread are reduced to speculating what happened before the footage to make a case for the cyclist.

Can you reference a post on STW of somebody suggesting punishment passes are okay? Take your time,key word in the post I made was “here”
Or maybe you could speculate like your comment on Darwinism? Speculate in this instance being “make stuff up”

Tell you what, that cyclist shouldnt start any more fights 🙄

What punishment maneuver?… Can you reference a post on STW of somebody suggesting punishment passes are okay?

seemingly no punishment maneuver here, I didn’t say there was, neither did I suggest anyone states punishment passes are ok, we do get plenty of “driver was in the wrong but…” posts on the helmet cam vids tho.

There are posts on the “stupidity” of cyclists passing on the left of vehicles (despite the majority of infra guiding you into that position), if you really want me to find some specific quotes I’ll look it up later.

The radio soundtrack was better than the fight. Very poor.

Can’t beat a bit of Tina Turner handbags malarkey! #BennyHilloverdubftw.

Does anyone know where this was? Only reason I ask is because I was walking up Deansgate in Manchester on Wednesday and I nearly got mullered by a self righteous prick on a bike, and I instantly recognised him. Couldnt work out where from until i saw this video again – im sure it was him. A very angry middle aged man who thinks he has to portray ‘the hardman’ so he doesn’t loose face.

I drove hgvs for 20 yrs and have been a cyclist for 10 or so including commuting so I’d like to think I can see both perspectives.Its very easy to get angry when it seems 20 or so tonnes of metal is trying to kill you. But….WTF is this guy thinking trying to overtake a moving HGV? If I were driving the truck and a vehicle tried to overtake completing the manoeuvre is down to him, me altering my speed\direction could cause an accident. What makes this cyclist think he is master and commander? His response to the driver getting out of his cab is way OTT.Nutter!

Up there ^^ someone says its South Reddish. It’s definatly Manchester / North west area as the radio on in the cab, the dj reads out the station phone number as a 0161.

A lot of the contributors on any bike v car thread reinforce the clear hostility between us

Well yes but still no one on here as ever said a cyclist can do no wrong so what I said was true Its amusing that you moan about speculation when all that post is just speculation followed by proving a point no one is disputing.

Yes some folk have a bias to favour of one side and some have a bias to just troll.

Not enough in that video to know what went on

Cyclist makes a stupid choice to try and get in font of the truck at the lights despite already beng behind a van who is attempting the same move. The truck driver doesn’t race off at the lights and keeps speed with the flow of traffic. Stupid cyclist rather than concede his poor attempt continues to stubbornly try pass the truck and blames the driver for his own bellend move to which the driver clearly points out his stupidity.
At the next lights the cyclist puts himself in danger by cutting the truck up to stop him moving then goes about punching, kicking and head butting the truck. Truck driver gets out of truck and tries to restrain cyclist to prevent further damage but cyclist wants his pound of flesh for his humiliation with his poorly thought out over take and gets all punchy.
Cyclist is a dick head and probably not the first time he’s been in this situation just this time it was caught on camera. Darwinism will no doubt coach up with him at some point unless he changes his attitude.

Reddish Road heading from Holdsworth Square toward Stockport town centre. The traffic lights are at the junction with Greg Street (right) and Reddish Vale Road (left).
The right hand lane at the junction is for right turning only. That bend in the road at the junction is deceptive. You can’t see from there what is coming toward you on the other side of the road which is also a very straight road with drivers often accelerating hard after they’ve slowed down for the speed camera they’ve just passed.
Cyclist was at complete fault there. I know that road very well and I have no idea what the hell he was thinking by overtaking any motorised vehicle at that junction or on that section of road outside of the school run (Reddish Vale School on Reddish Vale Road) or rush hour times. Wrong side of the road for a straight on direction. Lots of heavy good vehicles coming along that road (Greg St and Whitehall industrial estates are on the right}, right hand lane is right turn only, long fast’ish road toward Stockport…..
He also can’t throw a decent punch. If you know you can’t throw a decent punch, don’t try. Other bloke might be better at it than you.

Like monksie, I know that junction very well!
Never seen that cyclist though. I’ll keep a lookout for him now.

What a pair of thrushy vaginas

However when it comes to the fight, I’m damn sure that if a driver gets out of his vehicle then the rider can take that as a sign that he is fully justified in striking first (pre-emptive self defence).

What a load of crap.

I hope you aren’t a lawyer.

yes can you imagine it rider attacking your vehicle and you get out to ask them to stop so they beat you up and claim its your fault for getting out.

I have no idea what the hell he was thinking by overtaking any motorised vehicle at that junction or on that section of road

Possibly he wasn’t trying to overtake but was trying to get the driver’s attention to complain about an earlier event such as a close pass.

Who knows?

I think it would have to have been something very important such as “You should stop immediately as you appear to have a person tangled up in your rear axle” or something.
There isn’t much if anything that that would have had me on the off side of a motorised vehicle at that junction if I had any intention of carrying along Reddish Road.

Well, everyone’s different.