The Animal Liberation Front should be listed as a proscribed terrorist group

You know me. Like all lefties full of compassion for my fellow man – even the intellectually challenged, the sad and lonely and the deluded

Again, you miss the point, crank

Read the act http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/11/contents/enacted

Read the reports http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/oct/25/animal-research-animal-welfare

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/may/12/animalwelfare.topstories3

After today there is a large movement within the Govt to outlaw the Animal Liberation Front

The countryside alliance, is that the group that had a member decapitated by a gyrocopter?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2875491/Gyro-pilot-Bryan-Griffiths-cut-off-hunt-chief-Trevor-Morses-head.html

Again left wingers taking extreme action

Rudeboy, what’s your point?

TJ – since Lansera unfortunately has the intellectual capability of a mouse…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1494924.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2839511.stm

and, to name a few:

Dave Callendar HV3314, HMP Birmingham, Winston Green Road, Birmingham, B18 4AS. ALF prisoner who’s had his ten year sentence cut by two.

Michael Green AV2923, HMP Ashwell, Oakham, Leicestershire, LE15 7LF. Serving 5 years for arson at a slaughterhouse and attempted arson of cattletrucks.

Keith Mann EE3588, HMP Long Lartin, South Littleton, Evesham, Worcs., WR11 5TZ. ALF activist serving 11 years for criminal damage, attempted incitement, attempted arson, possession of explosive materials and escaping from custody!

Noel Molland CK4321, HMP Channings Wood, Denbury, Newton Abbot, Devon TQ12 6DW. Saxon Wood CK4322, HMP Guys Marsh, Shaftesbury, Dorset, SP7 0AH. Steve Booth CK4323, HMP Lancaster Castle, Lancaster, LA1 1YL. All three are editors of Green Anarchist magazine and have been sentenced to 3 years for ‘conspiracy to incite persons unknown to commit criminal damage’ by publishing reports of direct action.

Simon Richards BH4011, HMP Blundeston, Lowestoft, Suffolk. Was at Guildford anti-road camp. Currently in for 4 years for animal liberation actions.

Geoff Sheppard MD1030, HMP Parkhurst, Newport, Isle of Wight, PO30 5NX. ALF prisoner serving 7 years for possession of a shotgun and materials for making incendiary devices.

Barbara Trenholm RL1292, HMP Durham, Old Elvet, Durham, DH1 3HU. Animal liberationist sentenced to 10 years for conspiracy to commit arson.

Justin Wright CE3046, HMP YOI, Portland, Dorset, DT5 1DL. Same charge and sentence as Barbara Trenholm.

Lanesra = General Ripper

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No matter how you keep repeating that those crimes do not qualify for proscribing as terrorists under the act.

Read your own links. Read what the tests are and then try to find anything that qualifies under those tests.

The gyrocopter pilot was found not to be at fault. However plenty of hunt supporters have been convicted of violence.

Still – don’t let facts get in teh way of your fantasies.

Bloody hell

Zulu Eleven

Not going to quote all that, but you’ve probably proved my point

Loads of right wingers go round chopping peoples heads off, stealing bodies from graves, accusing people of being paedophiles, threatening children etc etc..

TBH TJ you’re no better than the Animal Liberation Front people in my eyes, for someone who apologises/justifies (with false allegations against BNP/Countryside Alliance/Anne Widicombe etc etc) for the above actions, you quite obviously support what they are doing

I once thought you where slightly intelligent. Clearly you should be filed with the people who think digging up graves and stealing the corpse is a great wheeze

LOL ! You really are priceless Lanesra 😀

The problem is, the mods are miserable gits, and you’ll end up getting yourself banned again 😐

Indeed Fred – his inclusion was a cut and paste error and I’d already deleted it when you posted that (rather wonderful) tune

Have you forgotten your medication lanesra? Poor quality trolling and ranting even by your standards.

Nothing for me to get my teeth into

distasteful crimes does not a terrorist make. where have I been an apologist for or justified the actions of the ALF.

Really =- poor trolling. 2/10/ Must try harder.

I never relaised it was poosible to unite the extreme wings of the STW hive mind in single cuase and act of ridicule. Even I loled at zulu-eleven twice 😯
As spectaculara a fail as I could ever hope to witness
I salute you for your “success” Arsenal
Your post on TJ suggests you rquire his professional services as that is irrational …damn I challenged it no good can come of that

Ernie didn’t your idol use direct action to impose his world view on everyone else?

Fight!Fight!Fight! (Sits back with a newly opened bottle of Woodford reserve and awaits the fireworks!!)

TandemJeremy no matter how you keep repeating that those crimes do not qualify for proscribing as terrorists under the act

I really wish you’d stop using your (limited) knowledge of Scottish Law as the basis of your (flawed) views

It’s ok; it’s not sexist or anything, as this young lady has chosen to make her protest felt by posing in such a manner. I’m merely using it to illustrate the fact that PETA are also on a USDA list of ‘terrorist organisations’. PETA often protest by getting not unattractive young ladies to take their clothes off to draw attention to their cause.

This is perhaps a somewhat stronger image, of a protest to highlight the treatment of pigs.

The treatment of animals used in experiments is always going to attract attention, as it affects our cultural, ethical and moral sensibilities. Of course, like with all sorts of arguments, you will get people at the extreme end of the scale, who will reseort to whtver means they see fit, to suit their own aims.

Taking your clothes off for an advert is one thing. A pregnant woman posing in a pig pen in only her pants is perhaps a little stronger, and sure to provoke more of a reaction.

Blowing people up, threatening people and their families, using violence and the threat of violence, terrorises people. Ergo, it can well be considered terrorism.

As for it being a left or right wing thing; Lanesra, bedtime, perhaps mate?

Have you forgotten your medication lanesra?

That’s out of order TJ, and insulting to those suffering from mental illness, who rely on medication. You should know better. 🙁

The best thing about digging up graves and stealing corpses is its one of the few terrorist acts that doesn’t endanger life 🙂

Sorry Fred

How is a gentle reminder an “insult” Effin ?

Have you taken yours BTW ?

No insult intended at all.

Taken what?

enfht – Member

No insult intended at all.

Taken what?
His “medication”

TJ do you take yours fat end first? 😆

Edit – JOKE!

How is a gentle reminder an “insult” Effin ?

Have you taken yours BTW ?

Yeah, you make such remarks, but what if I (or indeed anyone reading this) actually do rely on medication to help treat a mental health condition?

Not so funny now, is it?

Can people not be a bit more **** sensitive? Have you forgotten about the thread that’s at the top of the forum page?

F**ck me, this is getting confusing

…..now I’m going to have to take my medication

terrorism is a chimera, such a tiny pinprick in comparison to the industrialised mayhem of professional armies it might as well be ignored, when instead it’s used to infringe the liberties of everyone regardless of their intent. Its invocation is a cynical shell game.

Good call on Imogen Bailey Elf, worth the troll poking it’s head up for a hood reason to post those bunnies. Hmmmmmm.

No you know what? Bollocks to all this. S’just a load of nastiness. People trying to out clever each other. I’m as guilty as anyone, I make no pretence about that.

But where’s it **** getting us? Just perpetuates the hate and anger on here. Ain’t there enough of that already?

Yeah, maybe Lanesra’s out of order. But does anyone think that alienating him any further is going to help matters?

Would it not be better, if we adopted a gentler approach, rather than seeking to ridicule and humiliate people the way we do? Seriously.

Lanesra has perhaps got things a little out of proportion. Maybe he can appreciate that his views could be seen as somewhat skewed, and certainly not shared by others. Ok. It’s up to him to accept that or not. Maybe he thinks I’m well wide of the mark. Fair enough.

Would it not be better if Lanesra became a positive and welcomed part of this community? Is it not up to us all to help him feel that? Does he want to? It strikes me that he perhaps wouldn’t post unless he did. I’d rather he was, than this stupid bitching continued. I’m ashamed of my own part in the stupidity tbh.

Have a **** think about things, eh, people?

RudeBoy you’re a noodle

Jeeeezus……..I’ve heard it all now – “try not to upset Lanesra” !

“It strikes me that he perhaps wouldn’t post unless he …..”

He posts on here to get a reaction – obviously. I do my best and try to contribute something on his threads. Although clearly I don’t take it as seriously as TJ.

Where’s the problem ?

Ernie – I really wasn’t taking it seriously.

Elf = chill mate. Lanesra deliberately set out to irritate and offend and failed. Look at what he called me on this thread. If he can’t take it he shouldn’t dish it out.

If he can’t take it

Are we still talking buckfast TJ? 😆

Ernie – I really wasn’t taking it seriously.

I only said that I take it less seriously than you ……. no one takes Lanesra seriously.

Except Elfinsafety . Apparently.

Back on topic.

My previous employer was a supplier to HLS, and as a result we were targetted by SHAC. As an officer of the company, I had to take particular precuations, on the advice of the police. Always check under your car, here’s a special phone number for contacting the police etc. We cut all links with HLS when another director had a viable incendiary device left under a car at his house.

Terrorism? I was certainly terrified.

A group with military pretensions operate outside the law, intimidating, threatening and sometime harming innocent people in the name of furthering their political cause.

Exactly how is that not terrorism?

The prospect of them being a Labour/Leftie group is laughable though…

Torminalis, +1.

kimbers
…though i believe animal testing for medical research is essential, and its related to my work

“Vivisection is barbaric, useless, and a hindrance to scientific progress. …There are, in fact, only two categories of doctors and scientists who are not opposed to vivisection: those who don’t know enough about it, and those who make money from it.”
Dr. Werner Hartinger, 1988/89, surgeon of thirty years, West Germany

Lansera please do us all a favour and just delete your account as STW would really be a much better place without bell ends such as yourself