STW drummers?

Is that kid on Britain's got talent doing good stuff or basic stuff just really quick…

Dont ask why Im watching such trash.

he was better last night but he is good tbh drumming is mainly only interesting to drummers (speaking as one)id have liked it if he just drummed on his own no backing track but played more interesting stuff

there is some utter bilge that gets thru on the say so of that talentless bunch of 'judges'!

Quote from my drummer mate at work, "Sounds like someone building a shed"

those gymnasts, spellbound! quite good indeed!

To be fair to a some of them they do have a few talents.

That backward dancer is quite clever and creative with his choreography, those gymnasts are good and that drummer sounds good to me. Its good to see the kids doing great stuff as they get a fairly bad rap off the media – hoodies and stabbings for example.

A good drummer is one who can hold a steady rhythm throughout a song, not one who can do all the flash fills!

A good drummer is one who can hold a steady rhythm throughout a song, not one who can do all the flash fills!

No, a good drummer is one can hold a steady rhythm throught a song and who can do all the flash fills. The best drummers know exactly when to play the flash fills and, more importantly, exactly when not to play the flash fills.

wipeout is a very hard piece to play.

when I was a kid and me and my mates were bantering about drumming.. one of the all-time boasts/challenges was 'can you play wipeout'? the answer was always a humble 'no'.

That little fella didn't miss a beat.. but I would say that he lagged almost imperceptably on a couple of the easier bits..
I would have like to see him play some funk rhythms.

Wipeout is not hard to play. The kid is good for his age but that's about it. Good but nothing outstanding.

No, a good drummer is one can hold a steady rhythm throught a song and who can do all the flash fills. The best drummers know exactly when to play the flash fills and, more importantly, exactly when not to play the flash fills.

Good point. I'm still yet to play with one like that 😆

Wipeout is not hard to play.

I stand corrected.. to be honest I haven't tried it since I was a little 'un..
I think being good for his age is a pretty good acheivement though.. like I said.. some funk rhythms would have been impressive.

Don't get me wrong – I like him, he's got a real passion for what he does and I think he'd be great in a band, but the soloing just doesn't cut it imo.

Someone likes him, he's in the top 3!

didn't see it. don't watch "talent" shows

No, a good drummer is one can hold a steady rhythm throught a song and who can do all the flash fills. The best drummers know exactly when to play the flash fills and, more importantly, exactly when not to play the flash fills.

I agree, and I tend to practice what I preach. I can't do the flash fills.
I can do some basic fills – 4, 5 & 6 stroke single-stroke rolls (need to practice double stroke rolls), for 1 to 4 or more beats as required, on a single drum or around the kit, but I've yet to find a use in our songs for a paradiddle or a ratamacue…

I tend to use most of the kit to play a rhythm on some songs, but simply put, a lot of rock music doesn't need "flash" fills. Try one in a rehearsal room & you'll just get a dirty look – or a derisive laugh – from the rest of the band

and I can't stand drum solos in the rock band scenario. The whole band is there to entertain the audience, not have a break while Animal goes crazy at the back

A video of an enthusiastic drummer.

One of my mates is (IMO, and that of others) a seriously talented drummer. I've seen his band live 3-4 times and although their material overall is pretty good, it's his drumming that steals the show for me. There's a touch of the Keith Moon about him, especially in the energy of his performance. He's just a natural "livewire."

My drummer is absolutely incredible and has more drums than you can shake a drumstick at, having said that he does live in my computer and calls himself Toontrack………..

This is drumming 😯

He's quite good for his age and certianly doesn't lack confidence. For me though, what he is playing is not really that hard and comes across as all a bit full on with no variation or subtlety. The judges banging on about how awesome he is just shows they don't relaly know anything about drumming and if it sounds loud and fast it must be good. My son's pretty much the same age and is, IMO a way better drummer than him. Doesn't have the same self confidence.

So many drummers… So little time.

I've had a think.. and have decided to stand by my original comment…

'wipeout' IS a hard piece to play correctly.. with no mistakes.. maybe not so hard for a classical percussionist for example.. Or for a more experienced drummer.. but to hit every beat in the piece.. at full power.. consistantly throughout the whole song is very hard.. especially for a young lad.

A good drummer

Mr McBrain…..

+1 for Nicko McBrain

Wipeout???

Wipeout???

the lad in the talent show played the standard percussion accompaniment to the song 'wipeout' with a recorded backing track.

the lad in the talent show played the standard percussion accompaniment to the song 'wipeout' with a recorded backing track.

as I mentioned earlier, I didn't see the show, so this doesn't help me.

Wipeout anyone? a Youtube link would be helpful

Link

ah, that wipeout. cheers Barry

lots of 16ths on the toms. no big deal. stupid facial expressions don't help. then a simple – but fast – ride rhythm, not rocket science. nothing fancy in there, no nice kick patterns (that you could hear anyway) played on a single kick pedal. OK, and for his age, very good, but…

the thing I noticed most about that was the tilting riser. That would have really annoyed me.

ok.. so we're all agreed that for a wee lad he didn't do too bad..?

that wasn't too hard was it?

I know that it's not super hard for a big clever grown up.. but for a wee lad he did ok..

FFS

aye, I'll give him that.

I'd like to see him play this though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sHWd3mqi0M.
Not especially hard, apart from the snare on the off-beat, but a fantastic song, written by one of the best drummers I've ever seen or had the privilege to know.

RIP Robert

do you rate jo jo meyer?

I'm not a drummer but I am quite interested because I have family who are drummers and other musicians..

I've never heard of jo jo meyer, I'm afraid. Doesn't mean anything except that I'm a bit blinkered

this chap's quite good though: Gavin Harrison

Jo Jo Meyer

My untrained eye can see that he's very fast… and alot of of people say that he's god.. (yes God).. but do they just say that cos he's fast… or cos he has really good skills?

(sorry for getting you to talk about work!)

he looks very technically proficient – way better than me, but I guess he does it for his day job 😉

Question for you drummers, in my advancing years i want to retain my hearing so was wondering what you chaps do for gigging,i used to have a big f-off bin monitor to my LHS which had to be louder than my kit but would assume in-ear montiors with a mix off the desk would be kinder to my broken ears ? If so what in-ears work well ? Also would assume good for protecting ears/click track stuff for playing and practice. Have a sonor birch kit in a small room hence LOUD.

Oh and best drummer, my fave, Dr Roboto – Mark Brzezicki, awesomely talented

When it comes to drumming, this is my yardstick to judge all other drummers

Question for you drummers, in my advancing years i want to retain my hearing…

Elacin ER15 (or ER25 if you're very loud). Best investment any musician playing louder than coffeeshop level can make.

Just one thing that leaves the above well short of the yardstick is not having landed a helicopter whilst a sozzled Oliver Read takes pot shots at them with a shot gun from the garden next door. Executed without loss of a single drop from a Jack Daniels bottle and a mansion house full of scantily clad Air Hostess lovelies suitably impressed.
Epic drummer fails there, imo

I'm not a great fan of this show, due to the freak show performances in the early stages and the vulgar way people get off watching some making complete idiots of themselves. Two of the judges seem to have a problem understanding what tallent is! I also dislike the SYCO machine hoovering up talent so as to profit from producing yet more homogenized cxxp for "the Great British public" to consume.

The couple of tracks i heard the young drummer boy play to, he did well, but none were particularly excitng from a drumming point of view.

As one other said, he's only using a single kick and I've heard much better players playing way more elaborately. Good drumming is not neccessarily about knocking seven bells out of a kit either!

I guess if the guy played to something where the drumming was a lot more complex, the audience wouldn't like the music.

As for the judges, yep, I agree, they are clueless about drumming.

As per many of the contestants, personal poplarity is what this show is about, not so much about talent and this is what the SYCO machine is looking for – popular artists who will make them the most money.

However I do think the show offers great opportunity for the genuinely outstandingly talented. Giving those people the opportunity to display their abilities to a large audience is fantastic for them. I just hope for those who find the show launches/relaunches a career in entertainment, that they get a fair deal from their promoters.

As for a Royal Variety act, the aerial gymnastics crew have to be the winners.