STW Chub Club 2017

please go back and read the thread then :rollseyes:

specifically 2 pages back.

please go back and read the thread then :rollseyes:

specifically 2 pages back.
Ah, the bit where entries are closed. No problem, ignore, I’ll just sit and watch! My own fault for being far to disorganised (and for posting in KG not lb’s!).

Good luck all.

Too late for me too, but I’m just about to embark on the 8wk 800Kcal Blood Sugar Diet. Looking to drop from 100 to 85kg, long term looking to eat low carb lean meat. Time to shift the spare tyre & fight for some KOMs!!

This oughtto be on a shared spreadsheet of somekind. So anyone join, at any time such as Lunge and not be excluded.

@lunge
You eat all you like now 😉 until 2018.

Ps does the “p” symbol stand for pie 😉

First week weigh in for me – although is interimm before first official next week.

And down 4lbs/1.8kg. Happy with start.

Be interested to see what approaches different people are using. For me I am looking to cut down on sugar (never really added sugar as such – but fairly sure I was consuming sugar rich foods). That in combination with cutting out the booze altogether, taking my own lunch to work, and keeping away from all bad snacks (crisps, pastries, biscuits, etc.) seems to be working.

Good luck to everyone else

Just a bit of an observation from quite a few of the posts on here; a lot of people are saying “I’m going to do [insert eating regime here (low carb/paleo/HFLC blah blah)]. Which is great, at first, but at the end of the day they’re all ‘diets’, and it’s been shown many times that, eventually, people fall off the diet wagon.

If you want to lose it and keep it lost (and assuming you’re not properly obese, where more drastic action would be needed), you should perhaps be thinking more about “I’m going to make the following subtle lifestyle changes (like no drinking in the week, snacking between meals etc)”. If the changes are subtle, but effective, they’re more likely to stick in the long term.

Just a thought.

Be interested to see what approaches different people are using.

My plan is this……..Eat less. Move around more.

I’m not a fan of “diets”. I’m using MFP to log all my food because I really want to re-train myself to eat right, not just loose weight fast then go back to how I have been eating.

Plus –

Edit – don’t know how to embed vids. 😳

Link

If the changes are subtle, but effective, they’re more likely to stick in the long term.

That’s more or less my approach. My big vices were snacking during the day and a couple of drinks in the evening. I’m still going to have a few drinks tomorrow but weekday booze is out and snacks are gone too.

Be interested to see what approaches different people are using.

My plan is this……..Eat less. Move around more.

Sounds complicated. Are you sure?

My big vices were snacking during the day and a couple of drinks in the evening. I’m still going to have a few drinks tomorrow but weekday booze is out and snacks are gone too.

taking my own lunch to work

Amen brothers.

Sounds complicated. Are you sure?

It’s currently proving much more complicated than anticipated.

Especially the “Eat Less” bit……. 🙁

Had an interim weigh in. Lost 1kg / 2lb. Pleased as haven’t been able to exercise for a week after picking up a bit of knee injury (on the mend though).

Just cut out chocolate/pastries, no booze, salad for lunch. Not much else really. Eating the same evening meals. No food after evening meal.

I appreciate the sentiment and good advice of eating less and moving more.

But there have been plenty of threads which argue that it’s not always that simple, or more to the point a little more direction/guidance on what “less of” would be ideal.

I find it completely frustrating that (and I know there’s plenty of vested interests) despite this (in my view) being quite scientific, that the “experts” can’t agree on the most effective way of sustaining weight loss.

Sugar is an interesting one – reading up on the NHS live well website they state that sugar g/100g of the food is low when 5g/100g or less and high when >20gsugar/100g foodstuff. Given me something tangible to check out.

Clearly cutting out the rubbish is good, along with the obvs like booze; but I want to see the “best” way . By focussing on sugar, at least I can still eat (a bit) of life’s good’uns like cheese!

If you want to lose it and keep it lost (and assuming you’re not properly obese, where more drastic action would be needed), you should perhaps be thinking more about “I’m going to make the following subtle lifestyle changes (like no drinking in the week, snacking between meals etc)”. If the changes are subtle, but effective, they’re more likely to stick in the long term.

That’s what I’m trying to do. I haven’t actually cut anything out altogether, just drinking less alcohol, fewer cakes etc. My bathroom scales tell me I’ve either lost 1lb or 3lb. I think it’s time to buy some new scales…

Main vices for me are Coca Cola, biscuits dipped in tea (mmmm – I’ll put the kettle on now) and stupid-big portions of everything.

Also my policy of finishing a packet of sweets/biscuits once opened.

If I can crack these vices to start with them it will help.

Eat less. Move around more

This is my least favourite sentence in the English language after “plus VAT”

this sums it up quite well:

http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-eat-less-move-more-is-the-least-helpful-diet-adv-1686146359

My approach is to cut out grain keep refined sugars low and focus on clean fats, lean protein and vegetables.

sorry lunge, that came across harshly when what i meant was the lbs bit. i apologise.

Likewise dantsw13; if you want to email me your details –> IN LBS <– 😉 then I’ll add you too.

@redthunder. Experience of shared docs at work is that someone always manages to **** it up hence why I prefer to run it as i am, thanks. But if you want to do it differently next year……..

I think most people when they read “eat less” don’t just eat 3/4 of a pie instead of a whole pie, they just cut out pies and replace it with something else. I could be wrong but I just don;t think the majority of people are so stupid as to think that by eating 80% of a mars bar they’re doing much good (mind you, some people are extremely stupid, even the smart ones).

re: people’s approach to changing their lifestyle and eating habits (aka diet, but I don’t want to use that term for its negative connotations)

As I said early on in the thread, all approaches are valid if they work for you. It’s perfectly OK to share experiences on here and to motivate each other in the process but please can we avoid it descending into another fight about why ‘diets’ don’t work and so on. Start another thread if you want, or seek out the million or so that already exist.

Some people will approach by the basic method of eating less shit and exercising more. Some will do that in a more structured way, with dictats about what constitutes ‘shit’ and so on. Some might even go completely over to a meal replacement regime before reverting to eating ‘normally’. i don’t know, and ultimately I don’t really care – if it works for you then go ahead, just don’t judge each other based on what works for them and what works for you being different.

docgeoffyjones

Eat less. Move around more

This is my least favourite sentence in the English language after “plus VAT”[/quote]

I think “calories in vs calories out” is equally risible. It’s explaining the why not the how. It’s equivolent to saying “if you want to be a father just have sex with a woman” well, yes but there’s a lot more to it.

mazz

I find it completely frustrating that (and I know there’s plenty of vested interests) despite this (in my view) being quite scientific, that the “experts” can’t agree on the most effective way of sustaining weight loss.

People vary massively, in terms of tolerances, cravings, activity levels etc. I don’t think there will be a best way for everyone. For me it was cutting out sugar and refined carbs along with eating lots of healthy fats.

Losing weight is very much like….

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It starts off with a chubby, and ends up with you losing your (man)fat?

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I’ll be a bit drunk and it’ll all be done in a couple of minutes?

I think most people when they read “eat less” don’t just eat 3/4 of a pie instead of a whole pie, they just cut out pies and replace it with something else. I could be wrong but I just don;t think the majority of people are so stupid as to think that by eating 80% of a mars bar they’re doing much good (mind you, some people are extremely stupid, even the smart ones).

I would agree and disagree. Nutritionally, swapping whole pork pies for chicken salad ofcourse is virtuous. On the psychological / habit / association side of improving eating, leaving out some food is a surely a valuable new habit.
When you are munching through said pie or(insert meal/treat) and reach 80% of it you might well feel quite full. What do you do? Most people plough on habitually without taking notice of the fullness feeling or, even if challenged (by themself or another), with justifications coming quickly to mind ‘Don’t want to waste any food’, ‘I should finish my plate’.
The trick is to form a new association with leaving food unfinished, to celebrate it as a behaviour. One suggestion is to play your favourite piece of music whenever you leave something on your plate. By March perhaps the celebration won’t be needed – it will become a new habit to stop eating when full.
I believe this is a useful long term tactic, quite different to revved up early January heroic dieting feats. I think it helped me avoid a fair few hundred surplus calories over Christmas.

I’ve emailed my details – thanks!

Ah, we’ve hit the point of the thread where diets start being discussed.

One thing I’m not doing is calling it a diet. Except in the terms of “I’m changing my usual diet” as opposed to “I’m on a diet”. For me the former is hopefully long-term the latter short term.

Guys … I don’t know if you knew this, but I’ve just been reliably informed, by the person who’s just put a sausage and cheese panini down in front of me, that everything consumed on the lunchtime of Full Fat Fridays is calorie free 😀

Ive got no idea what im going to do. However ive read lots of websites that tell me i should eat clean and weight lift. In reality none of this is going to happen.

Im unsure how to progress without willpower.

everything consumed at lunchtime on the FFF is calorie free

I’m working to the similar plan that discounted M&S Christmas puds have proportionally discounted calorie values.
On my third so far this week.

please can we avoid it descending into another fight about why ‘diets’ don’t work and so on.

+1 for keeping the thread for our chub-busting progress and avoiding the theory/dogma/bollocks.

There are hundreds of threads on here already where we can benefit from the wisdom of internet know-it-alls.

play your favourite piece of music whenever you leave something on your plate.

Now that the fancy new forum provides a Private Messaging capability are we submitting our updates via PM rather than e-mail now?

@ andybrad

1/ good article on willpower here http://lifehacker.com/5662132/youve-got-a-limited-supply-of-willpower-so-use-it-wisely and why it’s not the be-all and end-all

2/ that said, it’s a skill (the article likens it to a muscle) and can be trained; if you rely on it too much at the start you’ll wear it out even easier. Willpower is more often used as ‘don’t do’ – don’t eat cakes, don’t eat crisps, don’t have a cigarette, etc…… use it for positive instead – if I can get through to lunch I’ll allow myself a biscuit this afternoon with coffee – and then once you’ve had lunch you might not want the biscuit after all.

@ perchy – erm…. don’t know, that was first I’d heard of it. How does it work / where do the messages arrive?

@theotherjonv – PM sent for testing purposes!

Edit : at the same time you sent me one for the same reason, it would seem.

might work – but looks a bit glitchy currently (message text was over the top of the message headers, etc.)

Let’s stay with email for now, by the time we’re all thin again it’ll be fixed.

– and further – seems like as well as a PM I also get an email telling me I got a PM, so unless I can turn that off, doing it by PM will mean i get 72 emails as well as a load of hard to read PM’s as opposed to just 72 emails.

I’m unconvinced so far…..

I stick to email. More reliable.