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STW 2014/15 Rugby Thread
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muddydwarfFree Member
Bath deserved that win, but Sale made it easy for them. Stupid penalties gifted Ford the points – he rarely misses.
Sale’s pack looks promising though, do wish they would stop kicking the bloody ball away and back themselves..ScamperFree MemberSome of us are actually riding our bikes Tom (in France) and the season does not start until I bomb up the M5 from the plymouth ferry to hopefully catch next weekend’s game 8)
dpfrFull MemberBath deserved that win, but Sale made it easy for them. Stupid penalties gifted Ford the points – he rarely misses.
Sale’s pack looks promising though, do wish they would stop kicking the bloody ball away and back themselves..Fair summary I think. I am just frustrated because I think we gave at least a losing BP away. Still, it wouldn’t be Sale if it wasn’t a roller-coaster
Tom-BFree MemberSome of us are actually riding our bikes Tom (in France) and the season does not start until I bomb up the M5 from the plymouth ferry to hopefully catch next weekend’s game
I’m not sure that I’d be rushing back 8)
wreckerFree MemberDo the tiggers instruct Canterbury to make a more gopping kit than the previous one every single year? What is their flipping problem?
ads678Full MemberThat’s the ‘alternative’ strip, the new home strip is pretty normal. Although some fans are still not happy with that either!
I like it and will be sporting a new orange tigers shirt at some point though.
wreckerFree MemberLooks more “salmon” than orange. Good job Gav doesn’t play for you, you wouldn’t be able to tell where the shirt ended and he began!
jambalayaFree MemberDanny Cipriani gets both barrels from Kelly Brook (fembot images spring to mind 8) )
Miss Brooks’ legal issues apparently stem from the book’s portrayal of her love-rat ex-paramour, rugby union star Danny Cipriani. This is indeed one of the more striking depictions of infidelity that Lost in Showbiz has come across, hinging as it does on one, telling detail. Not only does Brook claim that the rugby union star is a serial cheat and “man-child” determined to accumulate as many female conquests as possible, but that his obsession with philandering so consumed him that he became incapable of operating a lavatory correctly, or, as she puts it, he was so busy chasing women he couldn’t “flush [his] own turd down the loo”. “Danny Cipriani is blowing up my phone saying: ‘I’m going to sue you’,” she said, shortly before announcing her willingness to go to prison over the issue.
wreckerFree Memberhe was so busy chasing women he couldn’t “flush [his] own turd down the loo”.
There’s busy and there’s busy.
At least he’s got his priorities sorted 😀muddydwarfFree MemberTigers currently losing to a very good looking Exeter side.
jambalayaFree MemberJohnny was asked to come out of retirement – he said no 😐 . Toulon lost narrowly at home to Stade at the weekend after a poor place kicking display with Michelak and Giteau out and Halfpenny yet to play
(anyone know why ?)EDIT: Halfpenny hasn’t played for 6 months, shoulder and then groin injury. Hopefully he’ll be back soon.
anagallis_arvensisFull MemberToulon have signed
Hernandesesome argentinian fella but I suppose he will be over post thetri-nationsquad nations?Talking of kicking anyone see Patchels effort v glasgow. That boy has some boot on him.
about 2 mins in
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/29194845jambalayaFree MemberSome discussion that Halfpenny’s contract may be cancelled. Mr B (Toulon owner) is not happy it seems, odd to air this so publicly.
tinybitsFree MemberSuspect he’s on the way back to taffyland with a central contract pending…
FrankersFree Membermuddydwarf – Member
Tigers currently losing to a very good looking Exeter side.
Well played Tigers, great to get an away win at Sandy Park
And that was definitely not a yellow for Goneva
tinybitsFree MemberExeter look good this year. Thought Manu looked uninterested. (I still have man love for him though!) Goneva not a yellow agreed. Burns playing very well, suspect even Daddy’s boy will be pressed hard this year for the 10 spot (he’s still not his own clubs #1 English fly half!) will be pleased when Leicesters first choice props return, struggled a bit against Exeter.
anagallis_arvensisFull MemberGets worse
First Leigh Halfpenny… next Toulon President Mourad Boudjellal has Bryan Habana, Bakkies Botha and Juan Fernandez Lobbe in his sights.
The outspoken President of the money-laden French aristocrats, is demanding the immediate return from Test duty of Halfpenny’s Toulon team-mates or is threatening court action which could change the face of world rugby.
The star-studded trio are playing for their countries in the Rugby Championship, but Boudjellal is warning that unless they return to France by the end of the week he will stop paying their lucrative wages.
Lethal finisher Habana and lock enforcer Botha are away with South Africa and back-row star Lobbe is in camp with Argentina. The crack four-team southern hemisphere tournament does not finish until next month.
However, Boudjellal has reacted to the European and French champions’ 28-24 home defeat against Stade Francais and a club injury crisis by saying he pays the wages of Habana, Botha and Lobbe and he wants them playing for Toulon.
Juan Fernandez Lobbe – Tireless, enthusiastic, bright, and fiercely competitive, Lobbe is a relentless force for ArgentinaJuan Fernandez Lobbe
The Rugby Championship is sanctioned by the IRB, which means clubs have to release players who are selected by their countries.But Boudjellal will challenge that policy and demand clubs only be forced to release players if the IRB or individual unions foot the bill for those away on international duty.
He challenged the IRB to a court fight in what would effectively be a test case and could yet have major repercussions for the WRU.
If Boudjellal gets his way in court, it could mean the WRU having to foot the bill for compensation for the release of overseas stars such as Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, MIke Phillips, Dan Lydiate and Luke Charteris.
That could potentially result in a significant amount of the £2m the WRU are paying for the new dual contract system having to be diverted to fund compensation payments to clubs in France and probably England if Warren Gatland wanted to continue picking his exiles.
Boudjellal defended his hard-line stance by stating of Habana, Botha and Lobbe: “There is something that is quite simple – they defend the colours of their country and are paid rather comfortably by Toulon.
“The IRB decided the rules. That’s fine but I’m not here to fund South African and Argentine rugby and I will not.
“These players will return as we need them. If they do not and we receive no fee, they will not be paid by us because they will not be present in Toulon.”
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Arguing French law usurped IRB regulations, he continued: “We’ll see if the rules of the IRB prevail or if it is the rules of the Labour Code for French private enterprise. In any case, it is an aberration.
“We have reached a stage where we have to ask the opinion of the French law. Therefore, we will ask the French judges whether a foreign federation has the right to take my employees and force me to pay them.
“It’s just unthinkable we have players who are paid very well by us but cannot not play them. Moreover, I have to pay the players replacing them. This is a double sanction.”
The IRB doesn’t work a formal compensation system – it leaves it up to individual unions to take a stance on the thorny matter.
Aviva Premiership clubs, or example, are paid handsomely by the RFU for England squad members but do not receive anything for other nationalities.
That means they won’t release the likes of Wales and Lions hooker Richard Hibbard, who has joined Gloucester, for international matches played outside official IRB windows.
Only giant winger George North has a specific release clause for every Wales fixture in his contract. But it has come at a price for his club Northampton, who were clobbered with a hefty £60,000 fine by Premier Rugby for being in contravention of the league’s regulations by letting him to play for Wales against Australia last November in a match that took place outside the IRB’s the designated international window.
If Boudjellal carries out his threat to go to court and wins, it could have crippling ramifications for unions around the world and decimate countries like Fiji, Samoa and Tonga, who couldn’t afford to pay for the release of their overseas-based best players.
sadmadalanFull MemberI find the French Club attitude to oversea’s players strange. They know the IRB rules and they know the player is probably going to play for an international team (in fact that is one of the reasons they signed them). So complaining about later is at best, just petty. If they are complaining about the money, then make it part of the contact that they don’t get paid when on international duty. Given the size of the contracts, I suspect most players could afford to take the hit. Or talk to the SA, Aus, Arg Rugby Boards about compensation
jambalayaFree Member@aa, he’s really had a bad day hasn’t he ! It was my understanding that the leagues had to release players during the agreed windows and the North/Wales/Northampton dispute was very specific. Toulon have typically signed international players who have decided to stand down from International duty, this is one of the factors in their success as they don’t come back injured and they are at max strength during the international windows. In some respects Mr B has made his own problems here by signing more current internationals especially those from the Southern Hemisphere (although view was Botha and Habana might be standing down from Boks)
mindmap3Free MemberThe AP is going to be tough this year – Sarries will top it again. They looked ruthless and efficent again this weekend.
Saints still not as consistent as they should be although Wasps will be no mugs this season. I’d be worried if I was a Quins fan – something isn’t working there. Appointing Marler as captain? Hmmm. He’s got better bit is still a hot head who gets carded (see first game). Not really what you want as a captain.
6N will be interesting – England still have a lot of question mars. The pack looks pretty sorted but the backs are an issue – 12 and wings being the worst. 12T has had a poor start to the season – on paper he should be what is needed but he falls apart in games. I don’t want to see Ashton anywhere near the squad – he can’t defend (still).
Wales will go well – the regional teams never seem to go well but the national squad does well. The risk for them is key players likes A Jones and Jenkins coming to the end of outstanding careers.
anagallis_arvensisFull MemberA Jones will struggle to get picked ahead of Samson Lee new younger players are coming through but lack of depth is a chronic problem.
BlindMelonFree MemberHe will also struggle to get picked if he’s as poor as he has been so far tonight
anagallis_arvensisFull MemberHe’s really really unfit. Cardiff resting players for home games shifting Patchel to 15, long season.
StraightlinerFull MemberA very satisfying afternoon for me, as my wife’s team finally took a thorough drubbing at the hands of my team, Bath, after too many years of failing to get a good result. Bath looked very sharp today, and I really hope they can keep that going through the season.
Tom-BFree MemberBlimey what a result for Bath. Looks like it could be a cracking Prem season. I think London Welsh are really going to struggle mind!
Tom-BFree MemberYeah I watched some of that just. Embra don’t really look very good at all 😯
Tom-BFree MemberJust watching the prem highlights…..it’s bad enough for London Welsh looking hugely out of their depth, but it’s made even worse by the fact that every time they get smashed away from home (it’s going to happen a lot!) they’re dressed in barbie pink!!! Blimey!
anagallis_arvensisFull MemberGreat try from Rhys Webb at the start. I’ve slated him before but have to say he’s playing really well this season, him and Gareth Davies at scarlets can hopefully put from pressure on Mike Phillips this season. Mike only seems to put in a big performance once or twice every ten games for Wales at the moment.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/29288526anagallis_arvensisFull MemberIn other news Cruden missed his flight to Argentina with the All Blacks after going out on the piss. Hansen has told him to not bother with that or the SA game……I blame Henson.
tinybitsFree MemberWatched the Tigers game on Saturday. Bloody hell what was that. Just about the worst possible performance I’ve ever seen from a tigers side.
I know tigers have something like 15 players injured. The ones on the pitch (OK, maybe not the props) should have been up to the task of at least containing Bath, but what is happening at Leicester that every season start, the entire first team seems to be broken. Every team has injuries, but not to that level. Something is wrong and it’s frankly, bloody depressing.
wreckerFree MemberI think London Welsh are really going to struggle mind!
Whatever gave you that idea, is it because their points difference is -117 after THREE games? 😆
ijs445raFree MemberWorst Edinburgh performance ever. Not sure where they go from this pre-season was ok, start the league season with a win in Munster but then appear to have lost all direction and structure. WTF are the coaches doing.
ijs445raFree MemberEdinburgh play London Welsh in the Amlin thing…has the potential to be the lowest quality game of professional rugby ever!
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