So….what would you do with Jihadi John?

He hasn’t beheaded anyone though, but yes, maybe we should put Jihadi John in a cell with Charlie Bronson. That would be a much more fitting punishment.

I’d pay for a Sky TV subscription if there was a 24 hour tv channel to watch it all on.

I read his autobiography 15 years ago.

If I remember correctly he held a guard hostage, shoved something up his rusty sheriffs badge and claimed he did not mistreat him as he gave him his last rolo.

Or something along those lines, nuts I tell you.

Unless we try to understand what makes a young British person want to go abroad and kill people we will not be able to stop other young British people doing the same.

Not condoning what they have done at all but the people who really need to be held to account are those that have radicalised them.

Mch as it’s easy to get emotional and twisted about it, this is the only long term answer. The organisations, prisons, mosques and even communities need to be identified, infiltrated and taken apart, the consequence to those guilty of this being a worse fate than a british jail.

Ernie lynch you sir have the wrong end of the stick. This chap has help murder three innocent people. He should be executed in the same way Nazi killers were executed for the holocaust. The middle east is a lost cause anyhow and always will be.
There’s a good idea, kill a guy who want’s to die a propaganda friendly martyrs death when we have solitary confinement for him and people who aren’t even as bas as him (Charlie Bronson etc). You **** genius.

Iv’e said it before in the pacific WW2 the Japanese were known for being much more mental, two strikes and they literally turned yellow and gave it up as a bad job,
Wrong. The Japanese were already on verge of giving up anyway as the Allied naval campaign was starving them of food and strategic resources. Thatcher wouldn’t have blanket bombed anyone, she never blanket bombed Argentina and she couldn’t even preside over the effective blanket bombing of a shitty airfield in the Falklands.

There’s no need for intolerance but on the other hand we all have to tolerate a minorities actions, well you don’t see their own lot sorting the problem for us and now they feel aggreived they are all being tarred with the same brush.
Last time I watched the news on tv a muslim family was crying and basically disowning their daughter for going to Syria. Is there some Muslim action force special forces or something that I’ve missed? Who should be hunting down explodey types and killing them in their sleep? Would that be enough for you?

Yawn

Thatcher wouldn’t have blanket bombed anyone, she never blanket bombed Argentina and she couldn’t even preside over the effective blanket bombing of a shitty airfield in the Falklands.

Ahem !!! That was a Vulcan mission I hope you know !!! haven’t you got it yet ????? all true stw`er are Vulcan fanatics, its all to do with the noise you see ………………its right good and sends shivers up thi backside !
😀

To be fair, I do think we should go a little bit Mossady with them on the down low but there’s no need to get all emotional, call for judicial executions or carpet bombings and make a big deal out of it…..as you basically martyr them.

The best thing we can do is ignore them and swat them every so often when we get the chance. Flies, just flies.

Ahem !!! That was a Vulcan mission I hope you know !!! haven’t you got it yet ????? all true stw`er are Vulcan fanatics, its all to do with the noise you see ………………its right good and sends shivers up thi backside !

Hah.

Life imprisonment (obviously) and mockery… lots of piss-taking

This. These buggers want to be taken seriously, don’t. Remove all press coverage about him and spend your days taking the pee out of him. Not out of Islam in general but out of this individual and perhaps the specific brand of the religion he believes in. In fact, that’s not a bad punishment for any religious extremist, Muslim, Christian or anything else for that matter.

Martyr the lot of them, we get shot of them, they get to start their afterlife, win win.
David Haines was a true humanitarian and worth more than the lot of them put together
If they are no more they cannot take anymore hostages and the internet can go back to being used for the simple pleasures in life like the discussion of what tyres for what mountain bicycling trails .

Considering he would be martyred whatever you/we/they did, i wouldnt be suprised if they already had him, suspended by his toes by someone who doesnt tehcnically have a nationallity, in a department that isnt technically part of the country it is located in.

The whole film appears to be on ootoob too, if you have a spare few hours

Ernie lynch you sir have the wrong end of the stick.

You mean in that the death penalty hasn’t stamped out terrorism in the Middle East ?

Yeah I knew that, it was kind of deliberate.

Ensure he bacame a casualty of war so couldn’t come back or do anything else

Is he actually guilty of anything in the UK? And if he isn’t, can he be legally extradited to somewhere like Iraq or Syria where he has no guarantee of a fair trial, and a likely death sentence?

He really should be caught in the crosshairs of a British snipers rifle at about 1000 mtrs. ‘CRACK!’ & dropped stone dead.
No news, no drama. Just never to be heard of again.

Unfortunately it won’t work like that & there’s always some other crank to take his place.

I respect and accept the moderate views on here. Millions died in two world wars to fight for your freedom to express whatever view you like. Trouble is these extremists only understand one thing and that’s violence. Wenneed to show them who is top dog and get them on the back foot. I know I’ll be berated for this and like I said that’s your right. We fought for it so enjoy your freedom while it lasts. Next stop could be sharia law.

Ok, this is not one of STW’s best threads. Stop it now.

Help him lose his mind with a massive dose if acid.

Well done raveydavey, you’ve earned this

If I was with him I wouldn’t give him any human contact at all… I would feed him, give him space to live and shelter but I wouldn’t engage personally with him. I couldn’t trust myself to not rant and rage and I would not give him that satisfaction.

We fought for it so enjoy your freedom while it lasts. Next stop could be sharia law.

Because ISIS are executing people ? How does that work …… ISIS executes a load of people and Britain declares itself to be a Muslim country with sharia law ?

Well done raveydavey, you’ve earned this

Can’t be arsed watching that tbh as EDL scum are as bad as the extremists. I’ll bow out now and leave the lefties to organise help groups for the misunderstood naughty brain washed boys. Hope Iit doesn’t come home to haunt you.

molgrips – Member
Ok, this is not one of STW’s best threads. I don’t agree with everything that’s being said here, so stop it now.

Molgrips is right.

Serious stuff aside I first read this thread title as ‘Jilted John’…

RaveyDavey – Member
I respect and accept the moderate views on here. Millions died in two world wars to fight for your freedom to express whatever view you like. Trouble is these extremists only understand one thing and that’s violence. Wenneed to show them who is top dog and get them on the back foot. I know I’ll be berated for this and like I said that’s your right. We fought for it so enjoy your freedom while it lasts. Next stop could be sharia law.

Trouble is, and I don’t for one moment condone the violence being committed by IS, one of the things that has caused all this is the Sykes-Picot Agreement. As in Sir Mark Sykes (British) and Francois Georges-Picot (French) who divvied up some of the Middle East in 1915-16 and set the west on the the road to all this, to a greater extent.

And I guess we showed them who was ‘top dog’ 100 years ago and look where we found ourselves: right in the mess we have now.

@RaveyFavey: may I suggest you stop reading the Daily Fail and / or the Torygraph?

there is so much wrong with this lad that if it wasnt barbaric it would be comedy. an english bloke sets off from home to help those muslims suffering oppresion from another muslim only to find his life taken by another british bloke who says he is doing it in the name of those same muslims,

one has pride in his work and is humble one has pride in his work broadcasts it to the world and yet carefully ensures that his identity and location cannot be easily discovered . does he fear something, the first brit didnt, in terrible circumstances he bravely and humbly succomend to the cowardly publicity seeking anonymous brit who murdered him.

chip – Member

Martyr the lot of them, we get shot of them, they get to start their afterlife, win win.

Yep, and martyrs never inspire others to follow in their footsteps.

RaveyDavey – Member
Hope Iit doesn’t come home to haunt you.

I’m willing to bet our ‘interventions’ will haunt us longer, as JulianA said we’re up to 100 years at least so far. And the eternal “Arm this faction. Arm that faction. Support another faction against the faction we armed a few years ago.”

Some interesting responses so far. May I ask the hand wringers such as Moley….would your response be any different if the ones who had their heads hacked off with a short knife, were your Father, brother, son……would you feel any different?

Inconveniently people who don’t like Islamic ideology and are derided as Daily Mail bigots keep turning out to be correct.

I’d hope that my response would be the same, and knowing my family they wouldn’t want vengeance.

As has been said before, we’re supposed to be the civilised ones.

Yep, and martyrs never inspire others to follow in their footsteps.

Only other twisted ****, who should meet the same fate.

Next in line is a kind hearted cabbie who just wanted to help people.

RaveyDavey – Member

I’ll bow out now and leave the lefties to organise help groups for the misunderstood naughty brain washed boys.

But all you’ve done is frighten us with ‘next stop sharia law’ without making any suggestions at all concerning what can be done.

ISome interesting responses so far. May I ask the hand wringers such as Moley….would your response be any different if the ones who had their heads hacked off with a short knife, were your Father, brother, son……would you feel any different?

So you want to carpet bomb them and show them who’s boss?

What’s wrong with tit for tat cold war cloak and daggers stuff. Silently bump them off, make it look like inter-faction rivalry or an accident and leave it at that. No big show, no martyism, no crowds burning American flags whilst chanting about Allahs snackbar. We can wait, whether it be a week or 20 years for the chance and play the long game.

The other option is we bring them back to the UK and put them in solitary so they can wait 50 years before they get to meet their 72 virgins.

chip – Member

Only other twisted ****, who should meet the same fate.

Are you, somehow, missing the point? Nobody cares about the people committing these acts, we’re not saying “Oh poor misunderstood John”- we care about not motivating a whole bunch more. It’s not in our self interest to throw fuel on the fire.

You can say “How would you feel if you were the family”- how would you feel if you’re the next family? You can’t stop the next terrorist by executing the last one.

But all you’ve done is frighten us with ‘next stop sharia law’ without making any suggestions at all concerning what can be done.

You lads have it all mapped out you don’t need war mongering solutions featuring MOABs and fuel/air bombs from me. Party on boys.

Northwind, they don’t seem to understand that bombs falling can equal under certain circumstance, more terrorists. Especially when there is no long term plan to redevelop a region.

“We nuked Japan”, yes clever clogs but the Americans also poured billions into rebuilding the country so they had a friendly trading partner.

Tom_W1987 – Member
I’m willing to bet our ‘interventions’ will haunt us longer, as JulianA said we’re up to 100 years at least so far. And the eternal “Arm this faction. Arm that faction. Support another faction against the faction we armed a few years ago.
So you want to carpet bomb them and show them who’s boss?

What’s wrong with tit for tat cold war cloak and daggers stuff. Silently bump them off, make it look like inter-faction rivalry or an accident and leave it at that. No big show, no martyism, no crowds burning American flags whilst chanting about Allahs snackbar. We can wait, whether it be a week or 20 years for the chance and play the long game.

The other option is we bring them back to the UK and put them in solitary so they can wait 50 years before they get to meet their 72 virgins.

Woah.

Completely wrong end of the stick there sunshine.

My opinion is what the hell are we doing there anyway? What have we done in the region that’s made it better?

Get out, right out.

wilburt – Member

Inconveniently people who don’t like Islamic ideology and are derided as Daily Mail bigots keep turning out to be correct.

You mean like Stop the War Coalition which correctly predicted that Bush and Blair’s military adventures would lead to this ?

Quoted the wrong person there lifer.

RaveyDavey – Member
You lads have it all mapped out you don’t need war mongering solutions featuring MOABs and fuel/air bombs from me. Party on boys.

EDIT – no worries Tom