socialism vs capitalism……

As the Prison Governors Association are suggesting we stop short term jail sentences. How about getting all the petty criminals to 'dig roads and shovel crap' as community service. They might even learn as skill while they're at it.

It's clear that none of you Scandinavian fanboys have the remotest grasp of economic systems like what I have…

Norway, £6.00 for a pint of lager
That is a failed economic model IMO. End of thread 😉

Stoner – Member

According to my Irish neighbours, it costs that much for a Guinness in Dublin.

Plus all the Norwegans I knew got pissed on home brew before they went to the pub.

As the Prison Governors Association are suggesting we stop short term jail sentences. How about getting all the petty criminals to 'dig roads and shovel crap' as community service. They might even learn as skill while they're at it.

The people who are paid to dig the roads and to shovel crap might be a bit annoyed about that.

According to my Irish neighbours, it costs that much for a Guinness in Dublin.

And that's only before nine o'clock!

The people who are paid to dig the roads and to shovel crap might be a bit annoyed about that.

They will need teaching and supervising. Why not pay them to do that?

From Stonor's pintprice website….

AA Milne's Bottom
A fine and hearty brew from the Abbey of Sputum. The monks mix their phlegm with the hand picked bakers yeast and festering semen. A spunky beverage. 4 Stars in the Drunken Monk. No need to drink a lot of beer in order to vomit, have just one of these. It's like drinking c** – Silly Goolden (wine and beer expert).

Stoner – Member

Norway, £6.00 for a pint of lager
That is a failed economic model IMO. End of thread

What do you think of Iceland as an economic model Stoner ? Did Dan Hannan get it right ?

£6 for a pint

Tangent to the thread, please.

Whilst of yer usual mixed British (in my case Anglo/Irish) descent, I have a Scandinavian surname – one which I suspect is the residual consequence of a quite different economic model (raiding and pillage). Maybe we should try that?

What do you think of Iceland as an economic model Stoner

Iceland were brought down by a bad marketing strategy IMO

noteeth = Hagar The Horrible!

I knew it!

Seems that the choice was 'do you want to live in a nice place but have little disposeable income?' or 'do you want to live in a sh*thole but have lots of cash to spend on toys?

Scandinavia chose option 1, UK chose 2.

Iceland were brought down by a bad marketing strategy IMO

How was Kerry Katona involved in Iceland's marketing strategy Stoner ? ……… forgive me, I don't read the tabloids.

she defected to the Columbians.

forgive me, I don't read the tabloids

Isn't the Morning Star a tabloid?

Norway, Iceland, what's the difference between one bunch of suicidal alcoholics and another? 🙂

Robespierre – Member

To the utter w**nker who reckons that 'the socialist experiment' has bred a weak and enfeebled population etc. […] You are beneath contempt.

Well you must have stooped incredibly low to hold me as such. 🙄

You sound surprised that someone has taken the STW eugenics enthusiast to task, enfht? No problem with being called left wing cos that's what I am. Usually ignore the low level right wing mumble from this forum but did you read the post? Bloke's just plain ignorant…we are born helpless, sunk in…. Sssssssshhhhhhhhccccccccwwwwwwsssssscccchhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I'm sorry, that's just white noise.

hmm socialism worked well for the russians, is working well for the cubans and the north koreans.
Ernie, you're being very balanced for a change – turning over a new leaf? 😀
BTW, Che was bessies with Castro. They say you can judge a lot by the company a man keeps.

I'm sorry, that's just white noise.

Woah there Adam… I mean Forking. I think the latest leaflets for the village fete just rolled off the presses… 🙂

There are some very strange folk round here…

Indeed. Why would anyone want to re-join an internet discussion forum that they have been repeatedly banned from, and start spouting the same ridiculous invective that got them into trouble in the first place? 😕

Why would anyone want to re-join an internet discussion forum that they have been repeatedly banned from, and start spouting the same ridiculous invective that got them into trouble in the first place?

RudeBoy's back?! 😮

Ernie, you're being very balanced for a change – turning over a new leaf?

You must be confusing me with someone else.

I don't take a balanced view on anything – it's all from a class-conscious socialist perspective.

And I don't care very much for your accusation that I've become some sort wishy-washy guardian reading, liberal type. If that's what you're suggesting ……

"socialist worker" only for you i supose.

Cuba – works very well – by most things better than the USA despite the illegal blockade.

More doctors per head of population, lower infant mortality, higher life expectancy for starters.

The USSR was a totalitarian regime not socialist.

RudeBoy's back?!

No, think of his opposite number in the pantheon of STW must-get-thread-to-100-posts twonkery. 🙂

backhander – Member

"socialist worker" only for you i supose.

You're bang out of order mate.

First you accuse me of being a Guardian reader. And now you accuse me of being a Trot. Not very nice.

Do I sound as if I learnt my politics at university ffs ?

Do I sound as if I learnt my politics at university ffs ?

No

There are some very strange folk round here…

Thats no way to speak about enfht…should be much more rude.

Oh, you were looking in the mirror when you said it?

Oh, you were looking in the mirror when you said it?

Let me guess. Your insult education extended no further than GCSE level… 🙄

Well i live in Norway. I moved here from Switzerland. Yes the taxes are high here and the cost of living (food, booze and cars) is high. But my salary is excellent and the standard of living here is brilliant and i think i agree with the report – Norway is a great place to live – as long as you dont wanna go out and get pissed in the pub every night. BTW Norway´s oil money is placed into a pension scheme to enable the wealth to benefit future generations of little viking pillagers.

Sorry TJ, but the US is 5th place in the quality of life scale, cuba is 108th (alongside mongolia and senegal). You're wrong about this one mate. It may be sunny but for its citizens, it's a sh1thole.

"There are some very strange folk round here…"

you were looking in the mirror when you said it?

LOL !

Your insult education extended no further than GCSE level…

I bet you're highly educated Forked Souls. Maybe as even as highly educated as AdamG.
Well I say as highly educated as AdamG, he at least, reckoned he was.

Personally, I always thought he was probably an underachiever who was constantly berated as a child by parents who considered him to have been something of a disappointment to them. He probably had an older brother who was cleverer than him. AdamG certainly felt the need to remind everyone on here just how intelligent he was. He was banned you know. For being a tw4t I believe. Which is a bit ironic really …….

Sorry, I can't remember why I was talking about AdamG………… oh yeah, he also recognised the importance of good education. So yeah, *thumbs up* for good education.

Name me the country which has no Chancellor of the Exchequer or finance minister because their job isn't required, as economy looks after itself and the market always knows best ?

There is no such thing as "full capitalism".
So according to ernie, having a minister of finance means it cannot be a fully capitalist economy, but

Because controlling the economy, is the most important job for any government to do in any capitalist country.

according to ernie, the minister of finance is the top man in the fully capitalist econly. Do you even read your own posts? Still at least you can always resort to

Well you'll be waiting a long time if you think I'm going to waste my time trying to have a serious discussion with you, after the bollox you wrote on the other thread.

just not replying because you already know what a t1t you make of yourself.

Backhander – my point is its all about what you measure. In cuba you don't die of being too poor to afford healthcare. In the USA people do all the time.

mavisto – Member

"Do I sound as if I learnt my politics at university ffs ?"

No

Thank you mavisto. I was starting to ask myself 'what could I have said' 😐

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"the US is 5th place in the quality of life scale, cuba is 108th"

I couldn't find either of those countries in the 'quality of life scale' :

Quality of Life Scale

Although TJ is quite wrong in suggesting that the USSR was fundamentally different to Cuba.

Do you even read your own posts?

Yeah I do Fatty. But you obviously don't read my posts. I said that you can't have a "fully capitalist" country.
I didn't say that there were no capitalist countries. Go back and read them again.

If we were communist he wouldn't be fat, less fortunate people would have eaten half his food.

In cuba you don't die of being too poor to afford healthcare

Mmm, not totally convinced by that. You might not die as obviously, but the Cuban healthcare system (while admittedly far better than many 3rd world countries) still sees plenty of folk die who can't afford proper treatment. If Castro and his cronies get ill you can be sure they'll get far superior treatment to your average Cuban farmer.

Oh Mr Eugenics you excel yourself! 'Well you must have stooped incredibly low to hold me as such' after I've said that you are beneath comtempt…the sheer grace and poise of your retort…the distance from the school playground! What an advertisement for the master race you are.