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  • So what's the plan?
  • oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    I accept the democratic decision, so what’s the plan? How do we regain our trading position? I have repeatedly asked the question of the Brexit folks and as of yet I have not received any sort of answer? It’s all well and good but we have some big problems –
    1. No manufacturing base
    2. No one in the rest of the world wants to buy our financial serices (they already have it or don’t want it)
    3. No overseas organisation will put there HQ in the UK
    4. Do we rely on designing Dyson vacuums to make a living?

    Regardless of the rhetoric just how the **** are we going to make a living?

    Explain please

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Let’s just see what the Brexit folks come up with? You wished for it – got it – now fix it

    colournoise
    Full Member

    By undercutting the Asian nations on cheap labour.

    Except we can’t, as our workers are protected by various European directives. Oh, hang on…

    andytherocketeer
    Full Member

    sod the trading, manufacturing (yes there is some), there’s a shed load of domestic carnage to fix first.

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    That’s not a plan it’s a strap line

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Domestic carnage don’t pay the bills

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Colournoise you have just cut off your cheap labour and no one in the UK wants to labour for minimum wage

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Plan I need a plan not bollocks – I run a business that pays wages, anyone got a plan?

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Oh **** there is no plan? Just ******* rhetoric- and that does not pay your mortgage – once again can I have a plan please? Is there anybody out there?

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Come on colournoise whats the plan – serious question

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    Is there anybody out there?

    stgeorge
    Full Member

    I run a business that pays wages, anyone got a plan?

    If you haven’t had a contingency plan for a likely outcome of the referendum, I do wonder…

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    I have a plan
    1. Don’t take additional staff on
    2. Sweat the asset

    What I want is the grand plan?

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Basically no one in the Brexit camp from Boris down to Joe blogs has a Scrooby what to do? Anyone want to challenge that

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    It’s not looking good oldmanmtb.

    I think everyone’s left.

    I’m going to pop out to see if I can find anyone.

    I might be a while.

    seosamh77
    Free Member

    i don’t accept the result.

    ernie_lynch
    Free Member

    Well thank **** for that.

    Where are you seosamh……..in Scotland ?

    seosamh77
    Free Member

    yip.

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Jesus talk about being sold a dummy, anyone got a plan? Other than retrenchment? So 51% of the population has voted for no plan? Come on Brexiteers what’s the plan?

    seosamh77
    Free Member

    you seem a tad upset ernie, should you not be jumping for joy today?

    cheekyboy
    Free Member

    “Looks like moral needs a boost No 1”

    stgeorge
    Full Member

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    The silence is deafening…..

    oldmanmtb
    Free Member

    Sorry my mistake let’s chuck a YouTube video at it that will sort it, still want a grand plan?

    cheekyboy
    Free Member

    Sorry my mistake let’s chuck a YouTube video at it that will sort it, still want a grand plan?

    Soz 🙁

    stgeorge
    Full Member

    Wrote a page or so then gave up as really couldn’t be arsed.
    Basically said do what’s best for yourself, family and business, as will the vast majority of people in the UK.
    There will be huge opportunities as well as downsides to this decision, winners and losers as always.
    Grand Plans (5 Year Plans? ) never work, and in the UK it’s the sum of the parts is greater than the whole IMO. What I mean is the direction etc of the country is more influenced by the small, growing and mature businesses, and general population, than the preening tw*ts in Westminster or Brussels

    PS If you can be arsed to write a plan as if we had remained, I will do one for brexit
    ( As an aside I voted remain)

    MrNutt
    Free Member

    first they came for the spd’s, I had none
    Then they came for the flats, they had rust
    Then they came for me, I gave them your address

    you’ll be ok, the van looked comfy.

    bigrich
    Full Member

    I got a free biscuit today, because they felt sorry for me being English and all.

    TheBrick
    Free Member

    We will end up in a Norway type situation, but without the large oil industry to small population ratio and massive sovereign fund. None of the issues brexit people have been talking about will “improve” we will now have zero say in any decisions, politicians will be even more at the will of the papers and our economy will be smaller. Even Boris and co are not stupid enough to pull up the draw bridge as many want.

    Brexit. An victory for for opinion over evidence.

    zokes
    Free Member

    There will be huge opportunities as well as downsides to this decision,

    Go on then, list them. I strongly suspect the second column will be substantially longer than the first.

    As someone else said on another thread: this lovely fluffy idea of an English/Welsh powerhouse at some indeterminate point down the line is great, but surely the people who wished for it have some idea of how they plan to take us there?

    wilburt
    Free Member

    Incomes fall, tax revenues fall, more turn to crime and steal from the rich old folk who voted for brexit.
    House prices fall but interest rates are so high no one can afford the repayments.
    On the upside public health improves as we can no longer live on a diet of Tesco wine and cadbury giant buttons and our kids have to turn the computers off and get a job.
    Men and women become more attracive and lots of shagging happens(cos three’s fa else to do).

    Eventually a leader comes along who can unite the country, all the old baby boomers are dead, public serices across Europe are all run by Serco so theres a new EU wide referendum to create one state which is agreed.

    However a scientific discovery reveals we are all actually participants in an advanced game of Sims (Milky way Edition) played by a teenager on the planet Drog and about to be ugraded with the new intergalactic war update.

    After centuries of fighting Uranus we agee peace terms and form a union.

    Shortly afterwards the teenager on Drog gets a job and turns off Sims.

    cloudnine
    Free Member

    The plan is something like.. Every man for himself!
    I’m going to ride my bike now and I expect some good plans when I get back….

    singletrackmind
    Full Member

    We do what the swiss do.
    Specialise in niche manufacturing that we do well.
    JCB will serve as an example
    Land Rover products
    Rolls Royce cars
    Jet engines
    Military stuff like rockets (BAE)
    Space bits and bobs
    plane parts
    Banking

    We will be screwed over by Europe, we have to be. If we arent then all the remaining member states will realise the ‘levy’ for being ‘In’ does you no good so the whole shooting match would disintergrate

    What the UK has to do is try to get acceptable trading tariffs with the whole world. We hear of red tape from Brussels strangling industry, so maybe now we can breathe properly industry might do a little better.

    No knee jerk reactions, realise the money markets movements are paper losses and manipulted by market traders in the city .

    Everyone will still go to work on monday morning , not alot is going to change for a year , so you have one year to get off your backside and see this as an opportunity , not a woe is me exercise.

    homer
    Full Member

    On the bright side all the outers who complained about the foreigners stealing ‘our jobs’ will presumably now find gainful employment picking crops….(other manual low paid jobs are available)….

    zokes
    Free Member

    We do what the swiss do.

    Become eye-wateringly expensive to live in?

    Specialise in niche manufacturing that we do well.

    By its very nature, ‘niche’ means small

    JCB will serve as an example

    Good, we can make tractors like the soviets did

    Land Rover products

    Owned by India, may well decide being in Europe is better than being out

    Rolls Royce cars

    Owned by ze Germans, who may decide keeping manufacturing within the EU is easier

    Jet engines

    Good to a point, but we threw away our world beating status in the aviation industry about the same point in time as Brexit campaigners think we can go back to

    Military stuff like rockets (BAE)

    Excellent. Just what the world needs. More bombs.

    Space bits and bobs

    Bits and bobs won’t build you an economy

    plane parts

    Mostly Airbus, who are mooting the idea of leaving

    Banking

    …only works well when you’re not in the middle of a huge, self-inflicted recession

    And with the exception of banking, we need to import raw materials and energy for all those industries to operate. Those raw materials and energy are now 10% more expensive.

    dannybgoode
    Full Member

    Banking – also relies heavily on being part of the single market to make an international banking proposition attractive. Hence the big investment banks looking to move thousands of jobs out of London.

    Well at least all that pesky red tape and those silly EU laws that gave us access to the single market will soon be consigned to history.

    Jesus what were people thinking?!

    TheBrick
    Free Member

    We hear of red tape from Brussels strangling industry, so maybe now we can breathe properly industry might do a little better.

    99% of which will stay the same. The eu has been a scape goat for business that moan about regulations, business always moan about regulations but still has done very well in the uk while part of the uk. If you beilve that these eu regulations have significantly held us back especially compared to what we gained you are flying in the face of the evidence of the growth we have experienced.

    Now we have to renegotiate trade deals from a weaker position as we will not be part of the eu, so will get a worse deal.

    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    We do what the swiss do.

    Become eye-wateringly expensive to live in? Spoke to a Swiss guy a couple of years back at the airport about how tough it was living over there and how most of their workforce at the time was commuting from the EU – tell me do they pay to play still?

    Specialise in niche manufacturing that we do well.

    By its very nature, ‘niche’ means small Orange & Hope to save the day – I think I’ve seen under 20 orange bikes outside when I have been in Oz don’t think it’s going to cut it

    JCB will serve as an example

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    JCB were so far behind the far eastern guys a few years back it was a joke. The only thing that will keep that going flat out is a serious drop in the pound.

    Banking will be on the way out, what are the advantages of being in the UK now?

    Anyway all serious answers back of a postcard to
    Borris
    Number 9
    Downing St

    surroundedbyhills
    Free Member

    Just watched a C4 piece from Barnsley about why people voted out. **** depressing attitude.

    So all you English, Welsh and other worldly citizens, come and live North of the Border, you’ll like IrnBru and Lee’s Snowballs soon enough. Our language and use of it may seem strange at first but you’ll get the hang of it eventually, but probably not the rain. Perhaps we could do a swap with the bigots and nobheads that do live here and corral them all in Barnsley. That’ll likely be the majority of Rangers fans and some from the other teams.

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