Sience fiction telly fun ahoy!

Picard was really good. I enjoyed that a lot.
It did take me 30 years to notice that Lieutenant Commander Data was left handed though.

@Cougar

It’s brilliant. It’s a series of wholly unconnected animated shorts, all different styles. Some are pretty sweet, some are properly dark. It’s a bit like Inside No.9, if In9 was a five-minute cartoon. If you hit one you don’t like, it’s fine, there will be another one shortly

How the hell did this pass me by ? Thought the Netflix and Amazon algorithms worked quite well, but clearly they’re shit.

This is brilliant, only watched 4 so far from S1, but bloody excellent stuff, the animation is just superb. Love it can’t wait for S2 and S3.

I quite liked Picard S1 and most of Discovery, it started really well, but then did go off the boil more than a few times, disappointed it’s on yet another streaming service now, but suspect I’m not missing that much.

Arseholes complain that Star Trek is bad because its gone woke. It suits their knuckle dragging agenda.

Star Trek is bad because it abandoned the intelligent, optimistic outlook it had in favour of dumb, nihilistic action centred stories with poorly written fan service shoe horned in to appear “relevant” to existing fans. Its nothing to do with gay engineers

The Expanse was full of diverse interesting characters and no one accused it of being “woke” mainly because it was actually good.

Star Trek Discovery just went a bit weird, no matter what Burnham did, it always worked, and her back story was even more annoying, being better than Spock before Spock. The diverse cast were fine, but the way they were set up for plots was terrible, it just broke all the structure and work that the previous series had set up.

I gave up after the whole stuff with the bad captain played by about the only decent actor, Jason Isaacs was killed off and the actual real baddy from the other universe was kind of let off and allowed to do whatever afterwards, it was just a complete mess, you look back at TNG, DS9, Enterprise, etc and you had real structure, Star Fleet looked like an actual goal that had taken centuries to work towards for mankind, then you see the mess Discovery is, and even Picard is suddenly unpicking that as well, both are terrible.

The Expanse though, that was well written and diversity was part of the world they’d built, there was no utopian Star Fleet in that world, it was class driven and harsh for those in the lower classes! The main cast as well were a bit more believeable, as they all made mistakes, some of them over and over again, but the way they worked it in made it a good watch and a bit more realistic.

This is brilliant, only watched 4 so far from S1, but bloody excellent stuff, the animation is just superb. Love it

Isn’t it. I can’t wait for S3.

They had me at the episode which starts off with someone witnessing a murder across the street. So very cleverly done.

Glad you picked up on it.

Yep looking forward to S3 of ld+r. Really enjoyed the first two series. Thanks for the heads up.

you look back at TNG, DS9, Enterprise, etc and you had real structure, Star Fleet looked like an actual goal that had taken centuries to work towards for mankind

I loved TNG because of the intelligent writing and grown up themes. I teach philosophy at high school and tell pupils to check out TNG if they want to get a grounding in some major philosophical themes in an entertaining fashion.

Like all the best sci-fi the technological bells and whistles aren’t the focus, they’re just a mirror to reflect human nature.

The Expanse though, that was well written

hmmmm. Reading the books currently and they’re pretty plulpy. The TV series is worse IMO.

Star Trek Discovery just went a bit weird, no matter what Burnham did, it always worked, and her back story was even more annoying, being better than Spock before Spock.

It shared quite a few problems with the film reboots. Neither Burnham nor Kirk should have got anywhere near a position of authority on a massive starship, they’re both mutineers!

Picard S2, hmm. Bit of a muddle, that. S1 was ok I guess. S2 was daft and not particularly inspired. Another Borg queen, round the sun, time travel, don’t upset the future, that’s my grandma. I kept expecting Data to tell us the Jupiter mission to required one point twenty one gigawatts to be directed into the launch pad.

I’ve basically resigned to the fact that Star Trek just isn’t worth bothering with anymore.

It’s now sci-fi porridge. Unchallenging, bland, action sequence filler, with little meaning or direction. That said.

Lower Decks is the best Star Trek since TNG.

On balance of probability, Westworld will be naff. S2, S3, er, hmm, very slick but all very meh. Not a patch on S1. Getting a good fourth season seems optimistic.

Looking forward to Orville and The Boys. If they can stay on the boil for another season that would be great.

The Expanse though, that was well written

hmmmm. Reading the books currently and they’re pretty plulpy. The TV series is worse IMO.

Agreed. They are well-written in am easily readable, lets keep the action moving type way, which reminded me of GRRM. (Although nothing as awful as some of his writing. A horse ‘that was trained good’, being one of my favourites.) Nothing wrong with that style of writing but it’s not well written per se.

Lower Decks is the best Star Trek since TNG.
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Looking forward to Orville and The Boys.

The Orville is the best Star Trek since TNG.

I was going to sack off Prime to cut costs until you mentioned Season Three of The Boys is about to drop, damn you. Best thing on TV (all of it, everywhere).

Peacemaker is pretty good too.

which reminded me of GRRM.

I think both the writers of the Expanse series are his assistants, aren’t they? (or at least one of them is)

The Orville is the best Star Trek since TNG.

Yeah, I’ll grant you that one.

Lower Decks is the best Star Trek since The Orville.

The expanse books read like a screenplay, so it seemed right they ended up on TV and yes very pulpy but fun & dynamic (unlike Picard)

Westworld could be good, but I worry itll suck

The Boys, I have high hopes for!

Netflix “The Silent Sea” had a great set and space-suit design, an intriguing story… but i couldn’t stay awake! Worth a look though.

Umbrella Academy S3 at end of June also

Yep, I enjoyed that was a different.

Peacemaker is pretty good too.

The title dance is fantastic as well,I’d say 🙂

In fairness Peacemaker is actually really good,if someone said they were using his character for a spin off you’d expect it to be er shite.

Yep Discovery wasn’t ruined by being woke,it was ruined by the annoying characters,always reminded me of Wesley crusher(die die die).

+ the stories ended up a bit er shite and always saving the world/galaxy.

Strange New Worlds is more of the same ol’ star trek space soap.

Love, Death and Robots is fantastic and I can’t wait to watch it. Westworld started well but I just couldn’t grasp the character change for the man in black. From what he was to what he became just seemed wrong and an unrealistic character arc. Star Trek is just a soap opera in space with very unimaginative aliens.

Umbrella Academy and The Boys should be great. Does anybody know how to watch Peacemaker in the UK please?

I was enjoying Picard until the last couple of episodes of season 2 where it started to look increasingly like it was put together mostly for the benefit of a much loved lead actor.

L,d&r is looking terrific – ta for the recommendation. Have also snagged for all mankind and umbrella academy.

late august… for more star wars

and wtf happened to stranger things ? jocks vs nerds vs prom queens vs demons please no more teen agnst! yeah the monsters are scary but not half as scary as high school…. dismal. And why do the pupils look older than the teachers is there some kind of premature aging going on ?

Anyone watched Tales from the Loop? Worth a watch IMO.

But I did enjoy Picard, Discovery, Expanse, Altered Carbon, and that recent one with the time travel hole in the ground on a ranch. It’s just entertainment of my favourite kind, sci-fi. I pretty much watch most sci fi and enjoy it (but not Marvel/DC shite though thank you, and steered clear of star wars over the past few years too). I don’t get people who hold things like TNG DS9 on a pedestal above more recent Star Trek – it’s always been a guilty pleasure and has always had it’s stupid moments.

Season 1 of Halo has been entertaining me.

I had low expectations. It was entertaining.

and that recent one with the time travel hole in the ground on a ranch

Palm Springs?

but not Marvel/DC shite though thank you

Coming to the end of our Disney$+ offer. Kids love the Marvel stuff. Bad guys turn up, good guys stop them, thigs explode. Mostly unchallenging stuff with lots of effects. Star Wars is the same.

That said, they do have the odd standout thing. Loki was good. First season of Legion.

DS9 on a pedestal above

DS9 had some proper cheesey moments & filler,but, it had an engaging, well written long term story arc (changelings, dominion war, bajor) that were written as a whole and worked out across all 6, 25 episode series.

Even on today’s ‘bigger than Hollywood’ TV series that is very rare.

DS9 is probably my favourite franchise of all the Treks. But the first ~two seasons were utter bilge.

Another thank you to the various people who’ve recommended Love, Death and Robots – seen four episodes so far, and they’ve all been excellent. A nice mix of SF, fantasy and horror.

and wtf happened to stranger things ? jocks vs nerds vs prom queens vs demons please no more teen agnst!

It has always been like this though, from the first death in season One. It’s classic 80’s shlock horror, remade for the modern audience.  It makes no excuses to be anything else. They even self reference it: see; Robert Englund making guest appearances, and mentioning films in the dialogue like: Wargames and Nightmare on Elm Street….

I gave up on Outer Range (rancher time travel thing). These streaming services have way too much high budget but straight-to-video content, slowly plotted to try and keep you watching but, ultimately, of no significance. Three episodes in on Night Sky and that’s a bit more promising.

The first three seasons of The Expanse had interesting ideas, but the final one in particular was a grim plod to an unsatisfactory ending.

I’ve enjoyed both series of Picard and what I’ve seen so far of Discovery (I’m part way through series 2). Love Lower Decks too.

I should also say that I really enjoyed Enterprise (probably my favourite Star Trek of all of them in fact). I even liked the theme song, which I suspect puts me in a small minority.

Only Star Trek I really can’t stand are the new reboot films (all three of them). I watched them because they are Star Trek but what utter tosh and drivel.

I should also say that I really enjoyed Enterprise (probably my favourite Star Trek of all of them in fact). I even liked the theme song, which I suspect puts me in a small minority.

Nope, I thought Enterprise was consistently decent (and liked the theme tune). I prefer it to Voyager (best theme sequence, though), and large chunks of NG.

Liked the first Star Trek reboot, second one was OK, third one was terrible!

Discovery only really goes to shit in S3, IMO. Such a wasted opportunity.

Only Star Trek I really can’t stand are the new reboot films (all three of them). I watched them because they are Star Trek but what utter tosh and drivel

They’re all three generic action franchise films with some Star Trek wallpaper hastily wapped on top.

The latest Discovery is just awful. Strange New Worlds is bloody great. Book of Boba Fett sucked…Kenobi (so far)…brilliant. Stranger Things S4…Wow, especially after the rubbish S3. If that scene at the end of episode 4 doesn’t give you goosebumps then you’re virtually braindead Picard Series 1 great. Series 2….OMG what happened, I think I fell asleep. New Westworld coming up…ooh yes please. The Expanse was the best of the lot. As for Marvel…well they’re all great aren’t they?
If you want a right laugh….The Boys is very dark and Doom Patrol is just a piss take hilarious.

They’re all three generic action franchise films with some Star Trek wallpaper hastily wapped on top.

MrsKenny’s take on JJ Abrams and the new films was “He’s made fun and entertaining films that lots of people will enjoy……and that’s why sad Star Trek fans like you hate them”.

She probably has a point.

I really liked “Tribes of Europa” on Netflix a while back. its mostly in german so you have to actually concentrate to watch it (unless youre fluent in german) and S1 ended on a cliffhanger, so I want to know what happens next!

Whats dissappointed me are the new Marvel V shows (Hawkeye, Falon) as they feel much less developed than the Netflix series’. Moon Knight was good, but I just think 6 episodes is too short to do properly developed story telling.

Mind you Iron Fist was awful, until the second half of the second season…