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    matt_outandabout
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    ScotRail are trialling a simpler fare scheme.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-66795296.amp

    The thing is I can still get an electric bus from Dunblane to Glasgow which is quicker, cheaper and more reliable than the train has been for the last few years…
    ….but I am in train to many other places regularly. I often default to an expensive peak ticket in case an event or meeting is delayed. This scheme in my view is a good thing.

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    SSS
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    Looks a reasonable approach. Saves going trying to compress or extend your day into an Off Peak ticket and the rushing or hanging about that comes with it.
    Good to see many normal day tickets defaulting the the cheapest available off peak ticket such as Inverkeithing – Edinburgh which i use frequently.

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    poly
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    Before the electrification of the queen st to Waverley line you used to be “lucky” to get on a train at 0815 at the intermediate stations and would literally have spent the whole journey jammed against someone else’s sweaty body, sometimes barely able to breathe.  The same getting back on at Waverley at 5.30.  Peak pricing to encourage people to travel outside those times made sense.  Post covid, the first not peak train (and the last one in the afternoon) can actually be busier that the one before/after it.   So it makes sense from a simple price perspective.

    I doubt it is actually going to move many people out of their cars though, it that is the objective.  The same phenomenon that made the trains hell and now just busy did the same to Edinburgh and Glasgow traffic.   Very occasionally I had to take the metal box to the office (usually to bring/collect something heavy).  At 3am that is a 25min journey.  Pre-covid rush hour it was well over an hour.  post-Covid rush hour I’ve done it once recently and it was 38 minutes.    Door to door the train would take 22 minutes – if (and it’s a big if) everything runs to plan.  If you miss one train or it’s cancelled you are probably as quick driving – with fewer people coughing on you etc.

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    fasgadh
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    This would have saved me a chunk if I were still working, and the train commute a twice weekly at most treat would have been more frequent.  Pans to Sunny Dunny (Perthshire version) was £22 at the end.  Travelling in the opposite direction to most meant almost a personal carriage.

    The end of the punitive fare to Glasgow is very welcome. It’s a long time since I made that journey.

    jacobff
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    @Matt_outandabout

    Cheers I did not know about those electric buses. Will look into that.

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    matt_outandabout
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    jacobff – https://www.ember.to/ – they and Flixbus allow you to book on bikes as well! Yoof and kids go free…

    The app is great – they only pull into the places if there is a fare to pick up or set down – so you do need to live track. My kids have it down as an art form now – when to leave home vs Ember bus…

    I am a proper convert…

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