[Closed] Safe Cracking

angle grinder to the hinges or if its cast iron drop it off the roof

Maybe.... its locked from the inside.

Explosives. Just make sure you only blow the bloody door off, though.

or if its cast iron drop it off the roof

Daft question, but have you tried turning the handle?

Other than that, angle grinder to the back. Cutting just the hinges probably won't open it as you'll still have the deadbolts to deal with.

You need a stethoscope. I don't know what you do with it, but safe crackers in films always have a stethoscope

If you can turn it on its left side I'd cut through the two tabs that the hinges locate in

* Drill hole in top.
* Fill with water.
* Weld hole closed.
* Put in freezer (or outside).
* Wait.

Probably best to delay filling it with water until AFTER you've lifted it out of the cellar. Also, it won't work as a safe any more.

Thermite.

I do a bit of lockpicking - just as a hobby you understand - and it's certainly possible to pick that kind of lock. But if the key that's meant to be for it isn't working I'd go for the lock being seized.

If we're assuming that you have the right key and the mechanism is jammed the I reckon destruction is your only option

Lemon juice

Have you shaken it to see if there is anything inside?

Actually, theres no point destroying the contents out of curiosity as to what in there, and theres no point opening it if theres nothing it there.

Drill a hole in the top and hire an endoscope

can I just say how appropriate the OP's username is for this thread.

If only he'd had to swim through sharks and scale a cliff to get to it.

Spray lock with wd40 take rubber hammer to lock area and
It should free off the lock.

This is one of those scenarios where you know there will be nothing of any value inside it but a little part of you hopes against hope that its stuffed full of gold Krugerrands or the like!

I wouldnt't drop it, you could break the priceless ming vase safely stored within.

Am i the only one thats thinking woodburner here? 😀

It's about 2 1/2 foot high, 2 foot wide and I can't even move it, let alone lift it up three flights of stairs before using it to destroy the patio, so I'm ruling that one out.

Thermite / dynamite etc, a little risky give the above and the fact it's sitting in the foundations of my house.

Freezer is too small.

Lemon juice?

Don't have a stethoscope, nor access to a friendly doctor.

Might squirt some 3in1 into the lock tonight and see if that frees anything up. The thing to the left of the key looks like it could have been a handle at some point but has broken off. I haven't been able to get it to turn, but will attack that again this evening.

get proper penetrating fluid, not wd40 or 3 in 1.

Not sure how to get in ( have you got a plasma cutter ?) but when you have, you need to make it into a woodburning stove, it's the STW way.

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get proper penetrating fluid, not wd40 or 3 in 1.

Like what?

A colleague thinks that liquid nitrogen is the way forward, but I don't think Robert Dyas stocks it.

this sort of thing;

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meesterbond - Member

get proper penetrating fluid, not wd40 or 3 in 1.

Like what?

PlusGas if you can stil get it, then having left it to soak, liberal use of a proper sized hammer around the lock (without damaging it) to shake the lock compnents free from each other

Wow. All these years I've been using amateur penetrant.

(That sounded a lot less wrong in my head)

[i] I've been using amateur penetrant. [/i]

like professional penetrant but the camera's a bit shakier?

waswas that stuff really works - itsa staple in landrover repairs 😀

plus gas better but plus gas $$$$ and reality is that the high penetrant does a good enough job 😀

this sort of thing;
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You can buy it in Anne Summers

We had a safe at my old work, where you had to turn the handle, then the key. Might be similar?

Stop playing with it.
Oxy_propane cutting gear.

Cold chisel and lump hammer start at a back corner the steel if in sheets can be peeled back then once you have got it going a sledgehammer. Aprox 8 hours work for two strong men.

You have the key and it won't turn so I assume the lock is seized and therefore unpickable . Try a massive dose of wd40 then add a long strong lever to the key and gently turn and unturn repeatedly you want a fraction of progress back off more than you gained then forwards a bit more and repeat if it starts to work strip take the key out oil or grease reinsert and carry on in the same way .

All these years I've been using amateur penetrant.

Was he from Thailand?

I vote for thermite. Or det cord. Both the above would ruin the safe for use as a log burner later on though.

Pictures/video of the explosion/end result though

Handle is important - the key just opens the lock mechanism, you still need to turn the handle to move the deadbolts. So get a pair of mole grips on that and try turning, with or without turning the key as well.

Great thread!

Molegrips on the handle... check.

I'll set the video camera up so I can record the moment I become rich beyond my widest dreams (or ever so slightly disappointed, whichever's applicable).

Heat will help the penetrating oil do it's thing too, so if you have a hot air gun it'd be worth alternating through soaking the lock with penetrating spray, heating it up as hot as you can and belting it with a rubber mallet. If nothing else the hot smells and steam/smoke make the whole process look more exciting.

So many dramatic suggestions and...

Might squirt some 3in1 into the lock tonight

I found a small locked safe in my house when i moved in. Also found a bucket if maybe 200 assorted keys. None fitted. Shaking the safe there was definitely something in there. I watched endless youtube videos and page after page of lock picking advice. Then i drilled a hole and used a saw. The contents? Manual and spare key. Doh!

Flaperon - Member

* Drill hole in top.
* Fill with water.
* Weld hole closed.
* Put in freezer (or outside).
* Wait.

Ooh I once started a thread on this:

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/what-happens-if-you-try-to-freeze-water-if-it-cant-expand

Agreed if it is the right key, loads of penetration fluid, mole grips on key and wiggle while hitting the outside with a hammer to loosen the mechanism. Just keep repeating this, dont be to hasty and forceful. Same with the handle. If you can get the safe on its back to let the fluid seep in more all the better, also try and get the fluid around all the door where it meets the cabinet so it will help free the door leaf and dog bolts.

Looking forward to you finding f00k all inside it/or a massive pot of gold.

Looking forward to you finding f00k all inside it/or a massive pot of gold.

I guess that as we don't know what's in there, technically there is both a massive pot of gold [i]and[/i] nothing whatsoever in there...

It's Schrodinger's safe.

My money is on there being a can of plusgas in there. And the door handle.

Cold chisel and lump hammer...

Or if you're in a hurry, a room-temp chisel will do..

DrP

Or if you're in a hurry, a room-temp chisel will do..

DrP

I don't know why but I nearly wet myself chuckling at that ;o)

It's Schrodinger's safe

I hope there's not a dead cat in there.

Challenger 2 tank?

It worked for brainiac

I think it's important to check for booby traps - hurts when they get trapped.

hehehe

I love the amateur safe breaker comments.
Makes me laugh. 🙄

Nothing to add but can’t wait to find out what is in the safe.

I think it's important to check for booby traps - hurts when they get trapped.

he he

Drink heavily until you come up with a great idea, normally works for me..

I love the amateur safe breaker comments.

Nuke it from orbit

it's the only way to be sure

I don't know how to get in that, but I wouldn't go cutting / drilling unless I was sure that there wasn't something nasty like asbestos built into it

North Korea are due another test, call Kim and ask him if he needs a bomb support?

Thermal Lance !!
It will destroy everything inside , but at least you can say you got it open !

I love the amateur safe breaker comments.
Makes me laugh.

Pretty much how I feel about most bike repair comments on here 😉

Thermal Lance !!
It will destroy everything inside , but at least you can say you got it open !

But it won´t count, cheating is bad.

I would go knack earring it too much as once the deadlocks are in your never going to get it open, once watched a guy open our safe at work without a key with a drill located in a place only known by locksmiths ( google it) then he was able to open the mechanism from there and fill the hole with metal filler 😯 I then put a sticker over it 🙂

Also it might have a glass relocker too, if that's the case and you drill and smash it the deadbolts are going to make it even more unpenetrable

My money is on the handle/ key jiggle as the one at work has to have the handle in the correct position for the key to work

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Should do the job.

Locksmith?

If you're going to use explosives, a shaped cutting charge will work best.

Angle grinder? Nope. It would take for ever and cost you a fortune in cutting discs, diamond tipped stone saw would be better. Still going to be expensive but you'll have it open in no time.

Find an irresistible force and an immovable object then put the safe between them.

Call out the fire brigade and tell them there is a kitten or child locked in it. They will soon open it up.

Call out the fire brigade and tell them there is a kitten or child locked in it. They will soon open it up

no we wont

no we wont

okay, how about a case of beer then?

could you open it if there was really a child in there?

If there is a child in there, its either long dead, or we know the key works.

Between the inner and outer, shells of a safe the vois is usually filled with insulation, steel and cast iron bars and anything else thy have handy to stop drilling and penetration by an angle grinder, as peeps have said previously, there will be dead bolts that wind out with the handle, along with a key operated lock.So cutting off the hinge knucles will have little effect.

You could try a safe engineer but not many of them around and they do charge quite a bit,as the safes they open have lots of cash inside.

Between the inner and outer, shells of a safe the vois is usually filled with insulation, steel and cast iron bars and anything else thy have handy to stop drilling and penetration by an angle grinder

Looking at the age of the safe did they have portable angle grinders back when it was made... ????

I can't believe no one has mentioned schroedinger yet!!!

it's a cat I tells ya!

We could play deal or no deal, assuming you eventually manage to get it open.
Ring Ring! RM offers you £3.50 for the contents - deal or no deal?
RM.

it could be a smaller safe inside (locked of course)

Lightsaber?

I can't believe no one has mentioned schroedinger yet!!!

it's a cat I tells ya!

Yes they have!

meesterbond - Member

Looking forward to you finding f00k all inside it/or a massive pot of gold.

I guess that as we don't know what's in there, technically there is both a massive pot of gold and nothing whatsoever in there...

It's Schrodinger's safe.

Are you in yet?