Thank you so much for the advice. I bought a BH62 tool (is pretty nifty if you can get hold of one), and ordered it from Taiwan and three days later it turned up. Its expensive, but wow it made life a lot easier.
I was shortening the tube as my stem has been lowered c30mm post bike fit, the rear brake I could loose the slack inside the tube, front i needed to take that 30mm out. The BH62 tool allowed me to cut and push the ‘ferrule’ in without striping the bar tape and removing the shifter. Something that normally took ages took a few seconds. In fact I would now say I can fit, trim and bleed faster that I can fit a cable.
Thank you so much for the advice above, you guys are stars. Have a good week.