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  • norbert-colon
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    If all of the stuff coming out of the woodwork about this fella is even half true, then this is one of the best examples of karma I’ve seen for a while.

    mrlebowski
    Free Member

    Interesting bit of social justice:

    Petition

    wrecker
    Free Member

    A nice steady stream of customers going in, ordering a coffee before patting their pockets, looking blank and saying “sorry; forgot my wallet” 😈

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    I hope none of his staff lose their jobs due to cyclists trying to take ‘revenge’ on the owner of the business.

    atlaz
    Free Member

    You mean if people boycott his businesses? Sadly that’s not the fault of cyclists, its his fault for being a ****.

    wrecker
    Free Member

    Apparently he doctors time sheets, and doesn’t pay them properly anyway. Coupled with the facts he’s insolvent, and apparently has a fondness for subatsnces, its highly likely that they’d be better off elsewhere.
    Is it disproportionate? well yes, but so is threatening to kill someone for little more than riding a bike.

    ackie
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    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    Interesting bit of social justice:

    What, 100 odd people signing a meaningless online petition? Wooo, way to go with the social justice, everyone!

    As others have said, yes, he’s an asshat, but there’s a point at which the social media mob fires up the pitchforks that gets a little silly. Hoardes of people saying they’re going to boycott the business when they never have, or never will, been anywhere near any of them anyway. Then, irony of ironies, people firing up their social media accounts to say he should be killed/punched/etc. The mob becomes as bad as the asshat.

    I think it was Alex who posted a link to this earlier, http://www.amazon.co.uk/So-Youve-Been-Publicly-Shamed/dp/1594487138 It’s very much worth reading, a valuable insight in to the new world in which pointless petitions are seen as “social justice”.

    mattjg
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    aracer
    Free Member

    Well I’m going to boycott London, because that’s where all his cafes are.

    mrlebowski
    Free Member

    What, 100 odd people signing a meaningless online petition? Wooo, way to go with the social justice, everyone!

    Did I say voice an opinion either way CFH? No, I didn’t……

    I just said it was interesting.

    So, you know, dial down the sarcasm – it’s not really required as it detracts from the rest your comment.

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    Apologies if that came out the wrong way, MrL, was more aimed that the concept that such a petition could, in any way, be construed as “social justice”! Which may have been your point!

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Me too
    Agree CPt and their was an interesting Radio 4 programme where the author was interviewed about that and that was what made me do my original lynch mob complaint..possibly womans hour or midweek???

    Two wrongs still dont make a right even on the internet

    We really must stop agreeing with each other 😉

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    We really must stop agreeing with each other

    Your face or mine, sweety?

    😉

    backinireland
    Free Member
    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    Allegedly he’s apologized.

    If so, perhaps time to move on.

    philfive
    Free Member

    just seen this video and i know the 4×4 driver was a prick but did the cyclist really spit at him?

    LHS
    Free Member

    Well i will be carrying on going to Brew in Putney most weekends as there food and coffee is fricking awesome. Don’t care if the owner is a dick, i am sure their are owners of many restaurants who are dicks, shouldn’t really impact your decision making.

    MSP
    Full Member

    If the stories are true about the way he treats his staff, that would defiantly affect my decision making about using a business. In fact I would be quite happy to avoid any business that I knew was owned by an aggressive nasty dick head.

    And in general I use information to help form decision making, you obviously use other methods.

    Edric64
    Free Member

    Looked at the menu ,some of the prices look a lot for pretentious food Stopped going to several pubs run by dicks ,is that similar?!

    LHS
    Free Member

    Information – great food, great drinks, great service, great location (for me).

    Speculation – one video of one man being wound up by a cyclist.
    Speculation – “…if the stories are true about how he treats…..”

    MSP
    Full Member

    Speculation – one video of one man being wound up by a cyclist.

    LOL, it was the driver being wound up by the cyclist 😆

    Information – man deliberately turns in on cyclist, jumps out of car and starts verbally abusing and threatening cyclist.

    Anyway your statement was that knowing a business owner was a dick shouldn’t inform your decision. I disagree I think it should.

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Speculation – one video of one man being wound up by a cyclist.

    It was only acting then ?

    Edric64
    Free Member

    Wound up ? If he had come at me like that I think I would have floored him .The cyclist only says “oh come on” to start with and he went mental.

    LHS
    Free Member

    You know for sure exactly what happened prior to the start of that video do you?

    Both the cyclist and the driver were being complete dicks. But you don’t know how it started. I cycle along that road several times a week and the attitude of a large proportion of cyclists is extremely confrontational, as it is within Richmond Park just 1/2 mile down the road. Both peoples behaviour can not be excused.

    MSP
    Full Member

    We know another cyclist and car passed the cyclist first, so it is highly probable that that was “first contact”. The cyclist was acting perfectly reasonably, normally and legally until an attempted assault with a two ton vehicle.

    But you can pretend there is something more to it if you want.

    LHS
    Free Member

    Again speculation, not saying that is not what happened but you don’t actually know do you?

    That road is notorious for cyclists riding in an aggressive and anti-social manner and just prior to that video is a very busy junction so you have no idea what happened prior to the video.

    As I said, the attitudes of both of them is appalling.

    Edric64
    Free Member

    Why was the cyclist a dick ? He only gave as good as he got.

    cynic-al
    Free Member

    I too thought about challenging LHS but what’s the point?

    Either idiotic or trolling.

    convert
    Full Member

    Irrespective of the knobbery of the owner, it says something relatively profound about people who voluntarily go to places where they expect you to eat off a slab of wood. 😉

    Edric64
    Free Member

    I would love to ask for a plate instead of the chopping board it comes on

    MSP
    Full Member

    Again speculation, not saying that is not what happened but you don’t actually know do you?

    I can use the information available to me and make an informed decision. What I am not doing is speculating that there is something more to it that there is absolutely no evidence to support.

    LHS
    Free Member

    Either idiotic or trolling

    A very intelligible comment.

    I will leave it there, but again to reiterate you don’t know what happened prior to that video being aired and discussing it within our cycling meet last night everyone agreed that the cyclist was being as much of a dick as the driver. If you have ever ridden along that stretch of road and seen some of the behaviours you may be willing to entertain the fact that not all cyclists are angels.

    ton
    Full Member

    i wonder if the driver would have acted the same, if the cyclist was a tad more aggressive?

    Klunk
    Free Member

    Both the cyclist and the driver were being complete dicks. But you don’t know how it started.

    yes we do, the gimp tells us why he’s angry…. the cyclist should be on the cycle path and not the road. I’m sure if there were other reasons the gimp would have mentioned them.

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Speculation – one video of one man being wound up by a cyclist.

    Do you know what the word speculation means? Clue its what you are doing when you suggest something may have happened before hand to cause it…oh the irony.
    He has been convicted for this act and apologised for it so ther eis no speculation here we know he did it
    Actually al nails it
    EDIT: Ok not a troll.

    A very intelligible comment.

    LOL you might want to learn what that word means as well as you just failed to do it with that word . FWIW you meant intelligent

    One of those days when I just love the internet and smart guys

    LHS
    Free Member

    It’s very easy to take a one sided opinion but much harder to take a reasoned rational view.

    Anyway, let’s leave it there. The issue won’t go away though, especially at weekends, too many cars driving inconsiderately on narrow congested roads and too many weekend warrior cyclists with go-pros looking for a fight to post on their youtube channel. Recipe for disaster.

    LHS
    Free Member

    One of those days when I just love the internet and smart guys

    Attack and personal insults are the lowest forms of intelligence, you do know that right?

    Klunk
    Free Member

    It’s very easy to take a one sided opinion but much harder to take a reasoned rational view easier to talk crap.

    LHS
    Free Member

    A perfect demonstration. ^^^

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