Quick poll. Who you voting for tomorrow?

Agreed mW

Green party member, voting for Lib Dem (brexit innit). Although Dianne Abbot is my MP, so it would be a major upset if she was unseated!!

Labour, although it’s a fairly safe seat anyway.

Green.

The Torys & Labour are both just as bad as each other.

I still can’t forgive that knunt Blair..

BoardinBob – Member
The real horror is the scenario where the projected 9 seats the SNP are going to lose end up going to the Tories and ultimately Scotland ends up giving them the majority they need to form parliament

And yet that’s exactly what many Labour Members and supporters would prefer.

FWIW I think the Tories will win – but not by nearly as much as May wanted..

My thinkings also…

Labour.

The last few years of Tory Rule, the rise of popular xenopobia and blame has, for the first time in my entire life, made me want to leave the UK, and i’m working flat out to do that.

I still don’t think Corbyn’s version of Socialism is the best thing for the UK, but it’s better than the Tory’s version of unbridled capitalism.

I have been a Plaid supporter for the last 2 years since the last election, I floated that way because of Corbyn’s lacklustre support of the EU and his Soviet like purges of the Shadow Cabinet to remove dissidents, it showed me a man with a ‘them and us’ mentality, but I have to say he is a man with principles, even if I don’t agree with them, I trust him to follow his and they’re not totally against my own.

The reason why I’m not voting Plaid is simple, I live in a closely contested seat (Cardiff North) it came down to about a 1000 votes last time, Plaid don’t have a chance of winning it, only 2 parties do and of the two I’d rather Labour wins.

I hope that Labour can form a minority government in coalition with the SNP, I think it’s our best chance of holding the union together and having the best relationship possible now with the EU, I will save the NHS from being quietly chopped up and sold to the US whilst the proceeds are fed to the Tory backers.

I hope that, if elected Corbyn smashes the new media cartel like the fist of an angry God – we’re now sadly far past the point where ‘freedom of the press’ is a price worth paying for their strangle like hold on public opinion. Personally I’d use Tanks to do the job, but stronger liable legislation would probably be more PR friendl

I’d love to vote for Corbyn, just to show that despite being undermined by all sides he is electable. I’ve got a lot of respect for him.

I think I’ll go Labour just because of this. No chance of influencing the decision round here but it’ll be a +1 for the direction they’re going in and might count for something down the line.

FWIW I think the Tories will win – but not by nearly as much as May wanted..

Easy to get sucked into thinking Tories might not win if you hang around here too much. Seems inevitable though. Best outcome is that we end up with a credible opposition that has some clear public support.

Labour.

Unlikely to unseat the homophobic, poor people hating tory incumbent here. Gotta try though.

I’m conflicted.
On the one hand, Brexit is THE single most important issue of our times – leaving the EU is an insanity that will damage the UK for decades to come & only the LD’s have come out against it.
Labour have many policies I admire, yet support Brexit – and Corbyn is pretty well known for his antipathy to the EU.
This is a strong Labour seat yet UKIP came 2nd last time round & as the nazi’s aren’t standing here i suspect their supporters will lend their votes to their ideological fellow-travellers in the Tory party.

Hard choice-do I vote with my principles & go LD or do I vote Labour to keep the blue slime out?

Whoever you vote for, the government wins.

Muddy – Thornberry’s words on woman’s hour yesterday about leaving the EU in a manner acceptable to the 48 might help. It was a very interesting 30 secs or so and a highly charged choice of words.

You’ve lost me

Labour would prefer that the Tories win enough seats to form parliament via a majority because the SNP lost seats to the Tories?

Two horse race in my seat. SNP vs Conservatives. Labour likely to be a distant third, Lib Dems (who I am probably most aligned to) are non-existant.

Already voted by post – Tory.

I find it very hard to bring up any enthusiasm about voting since this seat has been Labour since 1964 and no one else ever comes close.

Going with Labour anyway simply because the MP seems alright and I don’t feel I have much of a say in the parliment vote.

meh

Hard choice-do I vote with my principles & go LD or do I vote Labour to keep the blue slime out?

Under normal circumstance I’d be saying vote with your principles but in a strong labour seat with a secondary UKIP vote I’d be voting Labour to counter the drift from UKIP to the Tories.

Labour won this seat by about 8% two years ago. The Tory and UKIP vote combined was bigger than the Labour vote.

When the election was called, the Tories looked like they’d take is with a similar majority. It’s now looking like 3% for Labour.

I’m hoping for a Labour government, but expecting a Tory majority.

I’m the de facto Election Agent for the Green Candidate. I’m voting Green, but if it was looking closer I’d vote Labour.

Greens are allowed to vote Labour in extremis I believe.

I’m the de facto Election Agent for the Green Candidate. I’m voting Green, but if it was looking closer I’d vote Labour.

3% is close enough that it could go either way. Lots of people still don’t want to admit that they’ll vote conservative until they actually make their mark. So I’d expect that the conservative vote will be a little stronger than polling suggests.

Can’t find what Emily Thornberry said regarding the 48%.

I’m tempted towards voting Labour as a tactical vote – my MP is/was a Remain campaigner, yet I feel very strongly about the insanity of Brexit.

Labour would prefer that the Tories win enough seats to form parliament via a majority because the SNP lost seats to the Tories?

Exactly that. Labour have given up campaigning in a couple of seats in order not to split the anti-SNP vote. There’s a poster on the first page of this thread supporting that position.

Muddy – basically 52 voted leave so we should leave but there are many ways to do that, and we have to do it in a way that is acceptable to the 48. Therefore very close ties to the EU, nothing that will make anyone poorer (nobody voted for that apparently) etc.
The language was chosen as a “yes we’ll leave the EU formally but we will remain in all its institutions except the euro that we weren’t in anyway” statement.
Up to you if it convinces you of course.

grumpysculler – Member

Two horse race in my seat. SNP vs Conservatives. Labour likely to be a distant third, Lib Dems (who I am probably most aligned to) are non-existant.

Already voted by post – Tory

why vote tory over SNP?

Can’t find what Emily Thornberry said regarding the 48%.

At 44:10 here…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08sks3v

I hope that, if elected Corbyn smashes the new media cartel like the fist of an angry God – we’re now sadly far past the point where ‘freedom of the press’ is a price worth paying for their strangle like hold on public opinion. Personally I’d use Tanks to do the job, but stronger liable legislation would probably be more PR friendl

Amen, brother.

Up to you if it convinces you of course.

It doesn’t, but my explaining why will almost certainly derail this thread beyond salvation.

why vote tory over SNP?

Because for some Labour voters (of the Tony Blair wing) there’s little difference. It’s been pointed out that Corbyn has voted more often on the same side as the SNP than with many of his LP colleagues.

Not sure, either Labour or Libdem (not that it matters, Tories only get single digit percentage in Cambridge).

…and just up the road, it’s the other way. Could vote either libdem (my usual) or labour, and the tories will still get in.

(p’boro)

Lib Dem. They’re who I’m inclined towards anyway, but they’re also the most likely IMHO to compete with the Tories around here (Labour were second last time, but I think that’s the first time ever the Lib Dems haven’t been second here).

Realistically though the Tories got over 50% of the vote last time, and opposition is likely to be split between Labour and Lib Dems as they’re both claiming that they’re the most likely to beat the Tories – I expect them to get very similar vote share.

If I lived half a mile away I’d be voting Labour, as then I’d be in what is touted as a bellweather constituency, which has I think elected an MP of the governing party every election in the last 25 years I’ve lived around here (for some of that I was in that constituency).

definitely conservative as I believe that we should bin human rights off and protect ourselves and our industry. If you are poor or cant be arsed to work, stuff you, you are nothing but a drain on the rest, if you look a bit dubious or sympathies tend towards Islamist beliefs, then you should be locked up and “persuaded” to give up everyone who has similar thoughts, soon sort out this stupid situation

Labour, only because no greeny in my bit. Can’t bring myself to voite snp regardless of my hatred of the tories.

Labour tomorrow. For a number of reasons. Pick one? OK. Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s the only chance now to save the NHS and also stop the punishment/killing-off of the low-waged, poor, sick and disabled. My immediate family has suffered so much under a depleted/dismantled NHS. I am now through no fault of our own a debt-ridden full-time carer to a (once-dynamic and fully-employed) beloved wife and mother.

She has now lost physical independence by the age of 50. This was partially and instrumentally due to recent cutbacks/selloffs in the NHS, complete with administrative blunders and ‘kick the ball down the street’ juggling waiting lists. Two years now. And and zero treatment (save drool-inducing levels of opiate painkillers) in this time. And still no further ahead. Unbelievable. We have no way of knowing how it might have turned out with early intervention. I have cried myself to sleep (unbeknown to her as in a seperate room, her restlessness/pain keeps me awake all night otherwise) am not ashamed to say. Watching the wasting and pain of a loved one is the hardest thing I’ve ever dealt with. Now, I too have sustained a complicated ongoing injury that affects my mobility and it has taken the last 14 months to get two appointments with a consultant. Again, too little, too late.

I am no further ahead, have been told to ‘rest’ otherwise it will never get better. How the F can I ‘rest’ as a full-time primary carer? Our ‘life’ (both married and professional) is now entirely unrecognisable from less than a decade ago. On top of this, as she is qualified for ESA we now regularly get made to feel like ‘parasites’, by actual parasites. I don’t even claim carer’s allowance.

My mother’s ex-employer recently committed suicide after humiliation and poor-treatment from Tory-controlled ‘welfare services’. I can’t let any of this stand. It’s right to strive, but endless struggle, cutbacks and needless extra burden is dangerous, dehumanising and counter-productive. The thought of a further Tory-controlled future is currently terrifying to me. I’ll be quite candid about it because, personally speaking, it’s closer to a ‘life or death decision’ than anything I’d ever have imagined. This will (ironically) be the most ‘selfish’ vote I’ve ever made. Am quite literally sick from Tory-Conservative rule.

Most likely Labour. SNP would be an option against the Tories but i couldn’t forgive myself the next time i heard wee Princess Nicola using the word “mandate” 😕

I used to vote Plaid in the past but will be voting Labour this time. I have actually warmed to JC – without belittling the historical circumstances with the rise of the hard right in this country this feels like a bit of a 1945 moment – certainly in my lifetime anyway.

Help us out with a smiley here tazzy – Poe’s law and all that

I’m the de facto Election Agent for the Green Candidate. I’m voting Green, but if it was looking closer I’d vote Labour.

3% is close enough that it could go either way. Lots of people still don’t want to admit that they’ll vote conservative until they actually make their mark. So I’d expect that the conservative vote will be a little stronger than polling suggests.[/quote]

I am a little torn, but going Green on balance. If the final polls tomorrow look bad, I might put my cross in a different box.

The decision is made a little easier by Ukip still standing in the seat, as they’ll take some votes from the Conservative candidate.

It’s also made easier by the incumbent Labour MP being openly anti-Corbyn, and the Green candidate being the only socialist on the ballot paper and genuinely the best of the five candidates.

My constituency is a very strong Tory majority. The “monkey in a tie” took 52% of the vote last time. Prior to 2010 we had a strong LibDem MP who retired due to ill health, he died a couple of weeks ago unfortunately.

The “others” were pretty much even between Labour / LibDem / UKIP, with the Green coming in 5th but still with a reasonable showing. I’ll vote for whoever will oust the Tory, but I think it’s too far split.

So to buck the trend I’m voting for a local Independent, Jim Kenyon. I don’t agree with all of his policies but he’s the very definition of accessible. He is currently a local councillor and the outgoing Mayor and has been fantastic for the local community. He’s a thoroughly decent bloke and will represnt his constituency fairly.

SNP in my seat- I’d be pretty happy voting Labour too, tactically but it’s a 2 horse race.

worry not aracer, I’d rather stick my testicles on a belt linisher and slam whatever was left, repeatedly in a filling cabinet, than vote for the conservatives.

If the final polls tomorrow look bad

Where will that poll be published?

If any jihadis are reading this I just saw May draw a picture of your god and do a poo on it.