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  • Pidcock’s new Pinarello Dogma XC revealed
  • mert
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    You know its an XC race bike yeah

    Nah, needs some 2″ risers a 35mm stem, reinforced sidewalls and flats.

    180mm discs minimum.

    ampthill
    Full Member

    You’ve seen how fast XC races are, right? Aero is probably more important there than being in the middle of a road race peloton, especially as XC races are usually a bit more spread out towards the end with less opportunities for drafting.

    I’m sure your right that by the end of a race lots of energy has been used moving the air out the way. But at the moment it’s clearly had to take second place to handling. There is nothing about the riding position or bike that says aero. Just things like bar width and reach could so easily be more aero. But clearly those that take part must think the time lost else where isn’t worth using narrower bars.

    My hunch is that Pinarello will want to to sell these. I even wonder if that’s part of the reason why Ineos brought in PFP.

    wipperman95
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    Slightly silly talking about aero when all MTB race bikes have a plastic number holder on the front…..Average speeds of 20-24km/h for most courses doesn’t strike me as enough for aero to be a major concern.

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    dirtyrider
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    Slightly silly talking about aero when all MTB race bikes have a plastic number holder on the front…..Average speeds of 20-24km/h for most courses doesn’t strike me as enough for aero to be a major concern.

    all adds up though, a watt here, a watt there, hide some cabling, chuck in aero socks, which pidcock certainly had on, attention to kit all amounts to kj saved, ok, nothing in the terms of a 25 minutes short track, but on longer days like cape epic, thats a whole lot less calories you have to shovel in for the same performance

    Dylan tested gravel stuff in a tunnel, interesting watch

    ampthill
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    all adds up though, a watt here, a watt there, hide some cabling, chuck in aero socks, which pidcock certainly had on, attention to kit all amounts to kj saved

    But other some internal routing I can’t see anything aero about this bike or the position on the bike. What am I missing?

    dangeourbrain
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    But other some internal routing I can’t see anything aero about this bike or the position on the bike. What am I missing?

    Have you seen pidcock? I mean, they clearly put him though on too a hot wash and he’s come out bloomin tiny, no wind resistance at all, he’d be aero on a Raleigh chopper.

    rickmeister
    Full Member

    Remember this from 2014… a veritable jargon-fest of nonsense.

    Superficial
    Free Member

    all adds up though, a watt here, a watt there

    Aero changes aren’t ‘free’ watts though, there’s usually a compromise somewhere. For road bikes it’s often weight – ‘aero’ frames are usually a bit heavier, wheels even more so. It’s whether those changes are a worthwhile compromise at MTB speeds.

    I’d have thought that an efficient pedalling platform and descending ability was more important than aero changes but I’m sure someone has done the maths.

    ampthill
    Full Member

    Have you seen pidcock? I mean, they clearly put him though on too a hot wash and he’s come out bloomin tiny, no wind resistance at all, he’d be aero on a Raleigh chopper.

    I think that tiny doesn’t equal aero. The opposite in fact. Try dropping a spider

    The guys who win time trials are usually by cycling standards big. More engine not much more drag

    I’d have thought that an efficient pedalling platform and descending ability was more important than aero changes but I’m sure someone has done the maths.

    That’s my thoughts

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