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  • Without going down the route of full on calibration, is there a simple way to unify brightness between screens, or decide an optimal brightness?

    I’ll edit a photo on my computer, then when it’s viewed on social media on my phone it’s often brighter than I would have liked.

    This leads me to think my computer brightness is way lower than my phone.

    Simple answer is to turn my phone down a couple of notches and my computer up a bit. Obviously anyone else viewing may have their screen at a different brightness though.

    So, is there a rule of thumb sweet spot and how to find it?

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    ampthill
    Full Member

    I knee there are free tools

    Didn’t realise that they were not part of windows

    https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-calibrate-your-monitor/

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    prettygreenparrot
    Full Member

    not part of windows

    Maybe get a Mac OP? https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchlp1109/mac

    Generally:
    https://www.adobe.com/uk/creativecloud/video/discover/how-to-calibrate-monitor.html

    Despite all that

    anyone else viewing may have their screen at a different brightness though

    Yes. And it will look different as you infer. Also different in different lighting conditions (True Tone and similar notwithstanding).

    All you can do is get it right for your well-calibrated system and then hope I think.

    ampthill
    Full Member

    I meant now part of windows

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    prettygreenparrot
    Full Member

    I meant now part of windows

    Ah! Sorry OP, no excuse for that Mac now.

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    north of the border
    Full Member

    Use the histogram. Skewed to the right means brighter / more exposed and left, more blacks / shadows. If they look too bright on a phone, maybe pull mid-tones and highlights to the left.

    i have the mac on a brightness of 4 or 5 dots but tend to work with the histogram to determine the actual exposure.

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    redthunder
    Free Member

    I gave up years ago with trying to calibrate. All screens are different, it will drive you mad. The image will always look different across them all.

    Put a disclaimer on your selling website.

    Sometimes I use colour scanner target in a photograph where possible.

    Don’t sweat it…. Or you will go mad, I tell you ;-). mad.

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    supernova
    Full Member

    Looking at the histogram is the most reliable way, as noted above.

    dakuan
    Free Member

    there was a simon de’entremont video where he talked about this, he suggested 90% for a mac laptop. This has served me well, and things print correctly edited to taste – histogram doesnt always work for me as some images are so dark. Sorry i dont remember the title and dont have time to dig but the channel is here: https://www.youtube.com/@simon_dentremont

    I do still find that photos edited to look right at 90%, sometimes need a bit more brightness and contrast on a phone screen, so sometimes i just boost those a tiny bit (1-3%) on insta before posting there

    thisisnotaspoon
    Free Member

    Technically “brightness” is what’s otherwise referred to as “Black balance” or “pedestal”, it’s taking all the pixels and adding an amount of luminance to them, hence the term black balance, because too much of it turns the blacks “light”, or

    “contrast” is what increases the exposure of the image, it’s adding a multiplier to the luminance values which means the true blacks stay 0 but the whites move away from it, hence contrast.

    OLED’s confuse this a bit as a black pixel is black regardless, so brightness and contrast become linked.  When you adjust brightness in the TV settings what it actually does is muck about with the LUT (look-up-table) which is a map to tell it if it’s being told x,y,z for RGB then it looks those values up and displays the corrected value. Which in turn is shifting the histogram around to either allow more or less dynamic range in the shadows.

    And then TV’s confuse this further because LCD+LED TV’s (i.e. most of them) try to mimic OLED’s, and oddly Sony have now gone back to LCD+LED’s for their production monitors which means you’re watching an LCD, mimic an OLED mimic a CRT.

    Social media platforms, phone screens etc will also apply their own filters regardless, so if you want to have your photos displayed as close as intended you need to account for that. In Lightroom / ACDsee etc you can create presets which might correspond to different media, e.g. a postcard sized print will have far less sharpening than an A0 print, or printing on to canvas typically needs different pedestal (brightness / black balance) as the material soaks in ink and looks like it’s turned up anyway.

    zilog6128
    Full Member

    This leads me to think my computer brightness is way lower than my phone.

    if you have a newer, expensive phone & a crappy (old) laptop it’s going to have a way better (brighter) screen on the phone yes.

    if you have a newer, expensive phone & a crappy (old) laptop it’s going to have a way better (brighter) screen on the phone yes.

    New phone, but Dell XPS 17 laptop

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