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  • Patio Magic
  • Cougar
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    I’m terminating green shit in the yard with extreme prejudice. The annual buildup of moss, weeds and general greenness on stone and concrete.

    I’ve half a bottle of Patio Magic! left. Should I replace it with the same or is there a more STW-approved poison of choice?
    (It’s got to be good if it has an exclamation mark in its name, right?)

    fruitbat
    Full Member

    Having used various algecides in the past with mixed success, I’ve just done ours with a 10% bleach solution. £3.50 for 5 litres of bleach – much success.

    joshvegas
    Free Member

    Why would you spray evil shit when you can spend a happy hour crafting a tribute to cock and balls everywhere with only high pressure water.

    thols2
    Full Member

    Kill it with fire

    midlifecrashes
    Full Member

    Choose carefully, stuff that kills some living things can be bad for other living things. Jeyes Fluid is good for this but very bad for cats, and not super nice for dogs either.

    Caher
    Full Member

    I use a butane torch. Days later they rise again and so endless battle continues.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    I use a butane torch. Days later they rise again

    Hardly a ringing endorsement, then.

    Choose carefully, stuff that kills some living things can be bad for other living things. Jeyes Fluid is good for this but very bad for cats, and not super nice for dogs either.

    A good point. But I can control doggo access to the yard and our cats are indoors. We do have occasional visits from neighbouring kitties but they’re fleetingly rare.

    iainc
    Full Member

    Algae Traz, from Amazon, works remarkably well IMO and is also pet friendly once dry. It does it’s magic over a few days, with no need to brush or rinse.

    dyna-ti
    Full Member

    30lbs of table salt. Spread it on, fine mist with the hose. leave overnight and hose it off in the morning.

    frankconway
    Free Member

    Take a look at the Agrigem website for all weedkilling requirements.
    They supply farmers, contractors and councils.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    Take a look at the Agrigem website for all weedkilling requirements.
    They supply farmers, contractors and councils.

    They may well do but you can’t get the good stuff – it’s licensed and Joe public can’t just rock up and get it.

    But it’s good shit. – hence why the farmers and contractors use it …

    The round up* that farmers get is much more potent than anything you can get walking in off the street even if it shares the same name.

    * Certainly that’s what we used as contractors who’s clients wanted the green killed with minimal cost to them (which meant minimal effort to us).

    If it’s moss and algae on a concrete. – Screwfix -no nonsense patio cleaner and a stiff brush – then hit it with the pressure washer.

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    Greybeard
    Free Member

    For algae, I use Wet & Forget, spray in spring. Ideally spray in autumn to minimise green over winter, but it should be sprayed onto dry surfaces and I usually forget until it’s too wet. Doesn’t affect weeds or other plants.

    Harry_the_Spider
    Full Member

    Jeyes Fluid not good for nextdoor’s shit engine eh?

    stumpyjon
    Full Member

    Another Wet and forget fan here, good for killing miss and that green coating everything up here in the sunny northwest gets covered in. It’s also supposed to clean stains over time. I’ve found it good for killingvtge moss and green, not so sure about the stain removing claims but pressure washing seems much quicker now and stuff seems to stay clean longer. I like pressure washing but I’ve destroyed various concrete slabs with a pressure washer so if helps reduce that I’m happy. £36 for 5 litres from Amazon, you dilute it 5 to 1 water so it goes a fair way.

    For weeds you can’t beat Glyphosate (Roundup) for safe, effective and relatively environmental impact (it breaks down very quickly and isn’t harmful to mammals despite what the loons in California think, not good for aquatic life though). It can be a bit slow acting as it destroys all of the plant including the roots. The fast acting weed killers tend to be nasty chemicals that burn the leaves off but allow the plant to regrow from the roots. Any homemade weed killers are technically illegal so don’t.

    Steam and weed killer burners just destroy the foliage allowing the plant to regrow quickly from the roots.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Cheers all.

    So I need two separate things, something glyphosate-based for weeds (which is my go-to generally anyway) and Something Else for the algae on the floor?

    Houns
    Full Member

    ‘Pathclear’. It’s basically the super concentrated chemical that’s in vinegar. It works, though not bug friendly 🙁

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    Flaperon
    Full Member

    Bleach (you can get big containers of sodium hypochlorite for almost nothing from farm shops and pool supply companies) with a surfactant such as Fairy Liquid. Brush in, hose off. Better results than any expensive dedicated product.

    Greybeard
    Free Member

    ‘Pathclear’. It’s basically the super concentrated chemical that’s in vinegar

    Vinegar is diluted acetic acid. The active chemicals in Pathclear are glyphosate and diflufenican. Not the same at all.

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    Sandwich
    Full Member

    That would explain why tonight’s chips tasted a bit “off”.

    Houns
    Full Member

    I mean this stuff, not weedol

    stumpyjon
    Full Member

    And all that will do is burn the leaves off, note the corrosive hazard label. Won’t touch the roots so the weeds will be back pretty quickly.

    brian2
    Free Member

    Patio Magic for the algae, glyphosate for the weeds, pressure washer for the sheer joy of shifting the grime. IMHO of course.

    Caher
    Full Member

    Hardly a ringing endorsement, then.

    Well it does work and I also use Roundup but they do come back unless you dig the whole thing up and and clear all organic matter and re-lay the patio. And the use some paving sand.
    Plenty of YouTube videos that go through this process.

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Patio Magic for the algae, glyphosate for the weeds,

    Can you mix them together in a sprayer for a single application?

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    Can you mix them together in a sprayer for a single application?

    Just how busy is your life that this is a question ?

    Mixing chemicals rarely ends well

    lambchop
    Free Member

    Home Bargains sell a patio cleaner by Spear and Jackson. It works well and is a lot cheaper than patio magic

    phil5556
    Full Member

    Just how busy is your life that this is a question ?

    I’m not that busy but I’m all for doing things the quick / easy way 🙂

    eddiebaby
    Free Member

    As someone who works in a garden centre and holds a spraying license I feel happy in saying that if you can buy it off the shelf then it is only a fraction of the power of products you could buy 25 years ago.
    SBK is the most potent stuff you can get over the counter. White vinegar and salt with a bit of washing up liquid as an adjuvant is good for killing algae/weeds but is a real scorched earth approach.

    We sell a lot of patio magic and wet and forget.

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