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  • Owen Paterson #Torysleaze
  • BillMC
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    Peter Oborne on Twitter saw it as ‘Johnson’s Black Wednesday and no turning back’. Interesting.

    bridges
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    Why do some people have an obsession with Corbyn?

    Because someone told them to.

    Edited to add What was Jeremy Corbyn’s excuse for not turning up ?

    Given how much he’s been paid over the years for his rent-a-gob performances on Russia Today and Iranian state TV, he was probably thinking of pots and kettles

    :D Delicious.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2021/nov/04/how-did-your-mp-vote-on-the-owen-paterson-case

    So; Corbyn voted against. Are we allowed to mention that Margaret Beckett, Ed Milliband and KIER STARMER didn’t vote/abstained? Or does that not fit the narrative?

    tthew
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    Hmm, there’s an echo in here, I pointed that out an hour ago!

    Also, Starmer wasn’t in because he was Covid isolating, that’s why he didn’t vote. Not unreasonably.

    bridges
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    Right. How very convenient. Hasn’t he been isolating for the last 18 months or so? :D

    Funny how none of those questioning Corbyn’s vote did the same regarding Starmer. Almost as if they’re blinded by their zealotry…

    kimbers
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    and KIER STARMER didn’t vote/abstained? Or does that not fit the narrative?

    Are you trying to make yourself look daft?

    Anyway
    Paterson, Leadsome, Mogg, Kwarteng as well as Johnson have all covered themselves in shit on this

    I’d like to think it will open up peoples eyes to just how corrupt the present tory party is, but I won’t hold my breath

    bridges
    Free Member

    Are you trying to make yourself look daft?

    No, but you are, obviously.

    heavy_rat
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    Paterson has now stepped down as an MP

    dissonance
    Full Member

    Well he has resigned now.
    I am guessing he will be rewarded in a few months for going and avoiding that awkward follow up vote.

    richmtb
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    Yet more grist for the Tory sleaze mill

    goldsmith-family-funded-boris-johnsons-marbella-holiday

    davros
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    Glorious 🤣

    Now he can earn some real money without all those pesky rules getting in the way.

    ransos
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    Far more likely she’s simplifying or using shorthand to get something a bit more involved and technical across to us. Or even more likely, given nobody has linked to it, she actually said something completely different.

    Yeah, well we can’t have you admitting you got it wrong, now can we.

    ratherbeintobago
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    I don’t really understand why he isn’t facing prosecution.

    By-election will be interesting (though it’s a very safe Tory seat).

    roadworrier
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    Twitter – Owen Paterson to resign

    Apparently, the cruel world of politics is too much?

    Yeah, that £300k per year is tough, especially when your peers manage to get by on £85k.

    What a coward. Can’t even face up to his misdemeanours.

    Klunk
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    MoreCashThanDash
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    Stepping down avoids another vote in Parliament, shame.

    bazzer
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    I’d like to think it will open up peoples eyes to just how corrupt the present tory party is, but I won’t hold my breath

    Great this is the right and on the left we have useless and ineffectual, we are doomed :-)

    I am not one of those people who thinks all politicians are useless or corrupt far from it. I do really think some do want what’s best for the people. I also think these exist on both sides. However the current flavour of politics makes it almost impossible for them to actually make any difference.

    mashr
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    By-election will be interesting (though it’s a very safe Tory seat).

    Tory landslide then

    Klunk
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    Just how inept does a government with an 80 seat majority need to be to get in such a mess over this!?

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Just how inept does a government with an 80 seat majority need to be to get in such a mess over this!?

    Ridiculously

    dissonance
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    Just how inept does a government with an 80 seat majority need to be to get in such a mess over this!?

    I think the majority was the problem here. If it had been tighter those torys who thought it was nuts might have been listened to. As it was though they charged ahead knowing they would win the vote but failing to think about what would happen next.

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

    tomd
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    I love the quote “a life outside of the cruel world of politics”.

    A cruel world where you can earn £100k for a few days work.

    joepud
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    I love the quote “a life outside of the cruel world of politics”.

    A cruel world where you can earn £100k for a few days work.

    Exactly imaging living that life. The horror! I did laugh when I read it. I would say hes in for a shock but im sure one of his mates will give him some easy board role where he just turns up “networks” then goes home and gets paid a fortune. Still one less tory can only be a good thing.

    slowoldman
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    Rarely when I get home from a bike ride am I greeted by such good news. Not only has the cheat resigned but slimey git Mees-Rogg has had to announce a U-Turn. I think I’ll have a brandy.

    footflaps
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    Just how inept does a government with an 80 seat majority need to be to get in such a mess over this!?

    I think it’s because they have such a great majority they feel invulnerable and just totally overstep the mark without realising the backlash.

    It’s like a third rate soap opera, almost unbelievable.

    Exactly imaging living that life.

    Yep, utterly barking mad, how he can paint himself as a victim for getting caught with his hand in the till.

    csb
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    His statement is bizarre. Sad about his wife but he’s shamelessly using her memory to deflect from his offences. No dignity whatsoever.

    jag61
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    Well that worked out quite well then im guessing a like for like replacement tho
    did anyone else have the misfortune to hear the interview with kwarteng on R4 this am? good job it was radio as he could NOT have ben keeping a straight face… “we are 100% committed to probity and honesty in public life” also all fingers crossed Not trustworthy one among them .

    footflaps
    Full Member

    “we are 100% committed to probity and honesty in public life”

    But only for opposition MPs….

    thegeneralist
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    Interesting to see if libdems and Labour will work together to just put one candidate forward.

    Ha ha ha. WTF am I thinking. Lols. As if Labour would ever do anything that takes them closer to being s credible opposition.

    binners
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    I’ve actually a grudging admiration for the sheer front of him. Trousering half a million quid in dodgy backhanders, then playing the victim when you get caught

    footflaps
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    As if Labour would ever do anything that takes them closer to being s credible opposition.

    Quite!

    Winning elections is something dispicable that only the Tories would do….

    footflaps
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    I’ve actually a grudging admiration for the sheer front of him. Trousering half a million quid in dodgy backhanders, then playing the victim when you get caught

    Have you thought about standing as a Tory MP?

    Klunk
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    Interesting to see if libdems and Labour will work together to just put one candidate forward.

    Ha ha ha. WTF am I thinking. Lols. As if Labour would ever do anything that takes them closer to being s credible opposition.

    labour were second place so why would they ? even if they did the tories would still get twice as many votes

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    labour were second place so why would they ? even if they did the tories would still get twice as many votes

    Exactly. An honourable second place is far better (comrade)

    🙄

    imnotverygood
    Full Member

    They need to do a Martin Bell type thing

    Klunk
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    They need to do a Martin Bell type thing

    it needs a Farage to split the brexit vote

    Klunk
    Free Member

    pre brexit Conservative Owen Paterson 27,041 51.5 ±0.0
    post brexit Conservative Owen Paterson 35,444 62.7 +2.2

    Klunk
    Free Member

    a single “anti” might have been viable in 2015

    Conservative Owen Paterson 27,041 51.5 ±0.0
    Labour Graeme Currie 10,457 19.9 +1.8
    UKIP Andrea Allen[12] 9,262 17.6 +12.9
    Liberal Democrats Tom Thornhill 3,184 6.0 -14.9
    Green Duncan Kerr 2,575 4.9 -3.

    soundninjauk
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    I think it’s because they have such a great majority they feel invulnerable and just totally overstep the mark without realising the backlash.

    I’m sure you’re right, but I just don’t understand how they didn’t see this coming.

    kimbers
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    How long before he oozes his way into the Lords?
    I wonder if that’s what Johnson promised him or if Paterson just slowly realised that Johnson was using him to engineer a takedown of the standards commissioner?

    I suppose we’ll learn from the way his mates in the rw press start opining

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