obesity, discuss.

Was that aimed at me?

Yes but it wasn’t meant to be a dig. It’s a very interesting experiment if you pay attention to your body and your cravings or otherwise. It’s really gobsmacking how much you can continue to eat (and fatty things too like sausages and nuts) and the weight just dissolves. Speaking as someone who had been trying to manage calories for years (with varying degrees of success), including weighing food and keeping diaries.

today i have eaten,
3 rashes of lean grilled bacon with 2 scrambled eggs.

1 banana, 1 apple

2 slices of granary bread with 1 small can of mackeral

2 malted milk biscuits

and i am obese

Lose the fruit, bread and biscuits. Join us…

Solo – how on earth can calories pass thru your body? Where do you think they go? Out in urine sweat or feaces?

Actually I do understand a bit about this – enough to know that there is a lot of rubbish on here and a lot of theory considered as fact. Now please can you post anything to back up the assertion that “Sneek calories into the body, underneath the fat production radar, and they will be passed through the body and will not end up as fat” cos this is something totally new to me that you can excrete calories.

Yes but it wasn’t meant to be a dig

Ok, no I haven’t tried it specifically as a plan to lose weight. I use parts of it to manage my weight.

For the record I don’t dispute the theory behind it, I find it a very interesting subject. Personally though I couldn’t cut some-things (like pasta) out of my diet without either suffering from lack of calories or constantly be eating.

molgrips…………..i would rather enjoy my food and be obese. 😉

I’m right aren’t I? Its all about bigger poo’s?! I knew it!!!

And to think that a whole ‘diet’ industry has conspired to keep this information from us. It’s a scandal!!!

its about it binners – a load of big poo’s

binners, me and you should have a poo off.
cos i can produce some right old logs………… 😀

We could make it an Olympic event. We could have an earlier pie-eating competition, followed by the log-a-thon

. It’s really gobsmacking how much you can continue to eat (and fatty things too like sausages and nuts) and the weight just dissolves.

Work out the calorific amount of what you are eating. You may be pleasantly surprised.

….oh, and the weight can not be ‘dissolving’ enough for us to ever get an after photo eh? 😉

It’s really gobsmacking how much you can continue to eat (and fatty things too like sausages and nuts) and the weight just dissolves

Is the iDave diet similiar to atkins? or totally different?

Is the iDave diet similiar to atkins? or totally different?

It’s low gi as opposed to low carb.

OK, interested to know why molgrips says ‘lose the bread and fruit’ then, as both can be low GI.

Work out the calorific amount of what you are eating. You may be pleasantly surprised.

What make you think I haven’t?

TJ.

I have to just laugh at that last post.

It was an analogous statement, refering to insulin response.

If you don’t elicit the correct response, then the fat production system of the body will not kick-in.
If you alter what you give your body, then it will use the fat it has stored.

Furthermore, I contributed to this thread with my thoughts on the reward response as activated in the brain and unlike you I am open to suggestions that there is more to excessive weight gain than simply counting calories. Born of both experience and reading.

I’m still waiting for you explain the Ale, sweets, fatty snack and your 10Kg surplus.

If it is as simply as calorie counting along with do more, eat less, then you should be sorted by now and not carrying your surplus 10Kg.

😉

I’m right aren’t I? Its all about bigger poo’s?! I knew it!!!

And to think that a whole ‘diet’ industry has conspired to keep this information from us. It’s a scandal!!!
No conspiracy. You can even buy a Big Poo Drug, although they call it Xenical.

Very funny reading people accounts of using it. It stops fat being absorbed. Sounds fine… but what happens when fat isn’t absorbed? Not big poos. It turns into oil. Your ring piece might be a good poop seal but it won’t stop oil leaks! 😯

Brown bread is pretty high GI really, and fruit has lots of fructose.

The diet isn’t just low GI, it’s low insulinaemic. Insulin promotes the storage of fat (unless your muscles are in a depleted energy state, post-ride), and it stops your body burning fat. So reduce insulin production and you’ll not only burn more fat but also not be hungry.

It works dramatically.

OK, interested to know why molgrips says ‘lose the bread and fruit’ then, as both can be low GI.

I could be wrong though. The goalposts seem to get moved from time to time.

stuff like rye bread is quite low GI IIRC

what foods are low insulin then?

binners, no glass pyrex dishes involved tho………. 😀

fair enough, what foods are low insulin then?

Stuff that has a low GI.

Things with a REALLY low GI; no dairy since this makes insulin* despite being low GI; no fruit for the same reason.

* the foods don’t actually contain or create insulin, your body creates it in response to eating them

stuff like rye bread is quite low GI IIRC

what foods are low insulin then?

Nuts for example. According to some replies on here, you can apparently eat as many of them as you want and you wont get fat as they “sneek under the radar”

Bullshit.

fair enough, what foods are low insulin then?

Stuff that has a low GI.

so you can eat low GI bread and fruit then?

EDIT: cheers Molgrips, I’ve got it now. no dairy though? no cheese, or butter? [shudder]

Ton.

How are you managing type and eat your biscuits.

Also, if you’re going to be obese and happy, then your list of what you’ve eaten today so far is a bit light weight.
I’m sure you can do better.
😉

Nuts for example. According to some replies on here, you can apparently eat as many of them as you want and you wont get fat as they “sneek under the radar

No, I tried this.. enough nuts and the sheer volume of calories gets noticed…

Warton – see my post.

EDIT: cheers Molgrips, I’ve got it now. no dairy though? no cheese, or butter? [shudder]

Yeah that’s one of the hardest bits for me. A big cold glass of milk I really miss. And lattes. Cheese as well, but that’s easier to manage, but you miss it less if you’re not having sandwiches.

Full iDave details, tricks and tips are listed on the many other threads if you want to try 🙂

Although.. low GI bread.. I wonder how they make that…?

No, I tried this.. enough nuts and the sheer volume of calories gets noticed…

So you could say that you are putting in more calories than you are burning. Could this lead to some sort of…I dunno…surplus that may lead to weight gain?

But….but…how can this be?

Solo, i will make up for it at teatime
grilled skinless chicken breast with a huge pile of stir fry veggies.

grilled skinless chicken breast with a huge pile of stir fry veggies.

Watch out for any German bean sprouts.

Jamie stop trolling.

No really, there is a radar inside your body.

Look, here is a true and factual schematic of your insides.

Solo – the answer for me is easy – I enjoy the things that make me fat so have continued to consume them. Now please tell me how this can possibly happen? “Sneek calories into the body, underneath the fat production radar, and they will be passed through the body and will not end up as fat”

Jamie stop trolling.

Me? I am not the one talking about apparent Ninja foods, that can stealth there way through the human body, and fly kick there way out of my bottom before the rest of my body realises I have been intruded.

I almost feel violated.

pfft, cassette tapes, that may be your body. mines more modern, i’ve got cds

molgrips – have you tried using almond milk if you are struggling cutting out dairy milk.

Ton.

Leave the skin on you wuss and get some chips onto that plate.

😉

molgrips, I am on a bit of a diet change at the moment, cut out wheat, chocolate and coffee, due to a few digestion issues…

thats enough for me at the moment 😀

double post

Solo – how on earth can calories pass thru your body? Where do you think they go? Out in urine sweat or feaces?

What makes you think that the body is 100% efficient at absorbing the calorific content of a substance?

TJ.

Please read the thread. It was an analogy refering to insulin response. I’ve tried to explain that. What part of Analogy don’t you get ?.
😉

You are not giving us your insight on the brains reward for eating crap, response.

If its just calorie counting, then, err, the brains response shouldn’t have any influence. That would just be fiddling around the edges…

Ninja foods, that can stealth there way through the human body, and fly kick there way out of my bottom before the rest of my body realises I have been intruded.

PMSL, excellent.
🙂

Me? I am not the one talking about apparent Ninja foods, that can stealth there way through the human body, and fly kick there way out of my bottom before the rest of my body realises I have been intruded

Nor am I 🙂

Phil.w – I’m managing ok with the dairy to be honest. Currently, it’s the Twixes I am having trouble with.

The whole dynamic seems different when I’m not riding to when I am. Haven’t ridden for two weeks and it’s all going wobbly.