New Hope Pro 5 Hubs!

Hope Pro 5 hub launch

Look decent with some nice upgrades. 6 pawls and 108 poe

and less drag, bigger axle, bigger bearings, better sealing.

All sounds good, I’m guessing a few more grams but could be worth the trade off. Wonder if they are any quieter.

Wonder if they are any quieter?

I’d imagine they will sound similar to the old Industry Nine Torch hubs.

Agreed, bigger bearings and better freehub sealing are good news.

I love my silent instantly engaging onyx 9n the hard tail but 108 poe sounds good. It’s a diminishing returns thing though. 18 poe on DT, I personally find a problem for clocking cranks on tech climbs but never had an issue with Hope 44 Poe. Too many and pedal kick back starts to be a consideration 9n low speed big travel events.

Aren’t DT all 36 poe now?

They might be, there’s also a 64t upgrade kit. It was more as an example. Could just of easily referenced the old Hope 24 Poe but that was back when no one knew any different. Actually still run one on the gravel bike but Poe doesn’t matter there for me.

No fat bike options 😭

Can’t say poe is an issue for me – got some on 18, and some on 36. Not fussed between them.

Is it just me, or are Hope on a roll at the moment? Their latest brake offerings have gone to top of my list, these hubs look like they’ll join them

No they are just catching up 🙂

No they are just catching up 🙂

They have been freewheeling for some time now 🙄

eBike variant with steel freehub body, and all 6 pawls engage the 54T ratchet at once rather than 3 at a time.

Heavy and expensive. I’m not sure what their usp is besides pretty colours and their history

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Heavy and expensive. I’m not sure what their usp is besides pretty colours and their history

The obnoxiously loud freehub?

Sound is in their Instagram story. If you’re seeing this later and it’s expired, someone has grabbed it here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3fxECYOtCA

If I heard someone passing making that sound, I’d think their hub was malfuctioning.

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Great looking hubs but not sure I Iike the sound though after having a spin with some yesterday, it’s not the familiar “hope” sound. Imagine the likes of Chris King changing the sound of their hub, for me it’s sort of their trade mark. Lovely engineering as usual though

I bought 6 Hope hubs last year rebuilding some of the fleet, now I want all new ones, despite the ones I have probably lasting until I am needing an ebike.

Nice update, basically catching up on some details but overall package will be great.

No fat bike ones yet, a bit of weight saving would help there and the larger bearings should last longer in the cold grim conditions.

They dont drop to bits after 2 years of hard riding if you look after them, and they are fully servicable, so that’s a plus.

That video posted earlier sounds a bit like my nukeproof horizon v2 hub .

I figure there’s a limited ability to keep a unique sound when you make things in a similar manner.

They dont drop to bits after 2 years of hard riding

Tell that to my 10yr old, 10,000km+ Pro 2s on their original bearings 😉

Do we think taking half the pawls out will be an ‘approved’ option like (I think) Project 321? Lighter, lower drag, 54poe fine for me*

The part numbers look like the end caps might be older- if they’ve kept them the same as the pro2/4 and therefore my box of spares it would be great.

* Obviously some personal taste here, for me 24 is the slowest I’ve been happy with, 40ish is nice, above that is a good thing but in trade off with weight/drag/complexity/reliability

Anyone know what axle lengths? Will there be 142 or just Boost?

Will they make the SS/Trials in a Pro 5 ?

Damn them 😡  Im now going to be forced to buy an E specific rear. And i’ve already got a new pro4 rear i havent even fitted 🙁

There’s a Hope promo video on YouTube for the new pro 5 hubs as well as in the link above that’ll answer most questions.

“Im now going to be forced to buy an E specific rear.”

I haven’t had any issues with a Pro 4 (with steel freehub) on my Levo and I do a lot of hard pedalling (often standing) whilst in Turbo mode.

My Pro 4 hubs have done 7 years and 13,000km on the original bearings. Sadly the bike they were on was stolen at the weekend 😭

I haven’t had any issues with a Pro 4 (with steel freehub) on my Levo and I do a lot of hard pedalling (often standing) whilst in Turbo mode.

Standard would be fine, but i got the straight pull version(£140 in a sale somewhere) and I’ve been reluctant to fit it because im not 100% sure on it being strong enough. Probably is but ….niggles….

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Does anyone know, or have an inkling as to when these will hit the shops ? Plenty of pics and reviews from radar,pinkbike etc,, but im not finding any for sale as yet.

Maybe I should big Big Al at Wheelcraft a buzz, he’s got a hotline to Hope

Does anyone know, or have an inkling as to when these will hit the shops ? Plenty of pics and reviews from radar,pinkbike etc,, but im not finding any for sale as yet.

I saw beginning of March somewhere……. Could just be my head making it up though.

I’ve seen shops quoting 1st March

It literally says it on the link in the OP.

Availability and pricing
In stock at retailers from March 1st

Prices (RRP)
Hubs from:
Rear: £220.00
Front: £95.00

Wheels from:
Rear: £310.00
Front: £190.00

Weights?

My Pro 4 hubs have done 7 years and 13,000km on the original bearings. Sadly the bike they were on was stolen at the weekend

Lovely.

Sadly, mine we less reliable than my pro2s, requiring DS hub body and freehub bearings every year. Then the advent of 50t cassettes meant the torque I exerted on the axle deflected it far enough to have the drive ring bite into the free hub body and crunch pawls to bits because they weren’t engaging straight, effectively ending their use as a viable hub for me.

Weights?

I was looking for weights as well, there’s nothing on Hope’s website yet or on any of the stories I’ve seen.

Hopes have always been a bit on the chunky side and most of the changes they’ve made would suggest that these will end up heavier than the Pro 4’s but it would be good to get confirmation, I may be wrong.

That freehub sound is awful.

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My Pro 4 hubs have done 7 years and 13,000km on the original bearings. Sadly the bike they were on was stolen at the weekend

Lovely.

Sadly, mine we less reliable than my pro2s, requiring DS hub body and freehub bearings every year. Then the advent of 50t cassettes meant the torque I exerted on the axle deflected it far enough to have the drive ring bite into the free hub body and crunch pawls to bits because they weren’t engaging straight, effectively ending their use as a viable hub for me.

I’m somewhere in the middle – had my Pro4’s since late 2018 and not broken much in it – other than a couple of pawl springs – and it needed new hub and freehub bearings last year.

To be fair I’d properly neglected them and it was a right state inside the freehub body with dirt and grime and it was all clogged up. I found it quite easy to clean it up / change the springs for new ones / change bearings and they’re good as new again.

Although I would like to slap the person who designed the microspline freehub body with a bearing sat deep inside – held by a circlip sort of thing with no holes and just 1 small ‘tail’ to try and grab it by to remove. Grrrrrr.

Would like to try the Pro5 to see what it sounds like – but I just don’t need a new hub at the moment and £££££

Ratchet hubs, not pawls for the e-bike crew…

The E-bike versions are still Pawl, just that the pawls are not offset so they all engage together and the freehub body itself is steel.