[Closed] Most inappropriate car right now!

time to master the swedish flick! 🙂

Based on evidence this week - any BMW 🙂

does that involve birch twigs and nettles?

Next door has a lovely new Type R (I have an older, slightly decrepit Type S). He tries to make progress by revving to the max. I have driven out the street and back 6 times since Thursday, albeit with minor slides, and he hasn't managed it once. Light sports cars with low profiles, fat tyes and revvy engines are not good winter cars!

Bet the MX5 is terrifying - rear wheel drive too!

time to master the swedish flick!

scandanavian flick 🙄

i had a reasonably interesting drive home in a tvr tuscan yesterday.

also saw someone out on a brand new 900 ninja (clown) on the same trip.

400bhp and 10" wide rear wheels is not helpful in these conditions.

BMW X6

Use 2nd gear to pull away in snow!

My Honda S2000 is a joke with little torque (so revs required) and fat rear summer tires + no traction control.
ah well, its fantastic the other 50 weeks of the year 🙂

I bet M3's are a giggle in this weather!

Eh? My MX5 was ok in the snow.

second the BMW/RWD thing. Brother in law just splashed out on an M something or other...couldn't even get it off his drive. He watched as my sister drove off in her Ford Ka.

Its all about clutch control and acceleration sense or put your dancing shoes on so that you can feel the pedals. One technique is to actual curl your toes in your footwear whilst holding your foot still for the slightest movement of the accelerator.

Or drive in barefeet or socks and use only your big toe to operate the accelerator and brake.

I tried earlier to retrieve my bm earlier from 200yards down my road. It took me half a hour to get it 300 yards away from my house and an hour to get it to back where I started. Little old ladies smiling at me cruising past in their Fiestas and Micras really was quite anoying.

my bmw is so bad it could not get over the sleeping policeman outside my house

You should have woken him up.

empty ford transt long wheelbase.
total ****ing crap pile of shyte, even on a flat surface with the threat of snow a month away................ 😉

My BMW is soo bad it has neon lights under the body 8)

My printer friend is struggling with his Bentley Turbo R at the moment. Apparently he's scared to death of touching the accelerator 😆

My citroen is normally a great car, but the gear box is just plain dangerous in the snow, its one of those sensodrive with flappy paddles, so its missing a clutch pedal, and while its supposed to be semi-auto, unlike an auto you can't select the gear you want. To top it off the snow mode is a joke, does bugger all.

Haven't even bother to move the car in this weather, although have to go out tomorrow.

My other current vehicle is a Merc Vito, rear wheel drive (as i found out yesterday) but at least its heavy.

my little car is very light although it has reasonable large tyres for it's size. It's actually quite good in the snow.

Mmm any brownie points I got for letting her use my car would be lost if I binned the little MX-5 by trying the scandavian flick.

Pulling away etc is fine it's just that its so light that the very uneven surface of the ungritted roads makes it skitter around.

Why do all big car parks now have some 'furniture' in them. I have many happy memories of hand brake turning etc around in them when iced up years ago.

My Elise is pretty good fun on empty car parks.
Less so on the road. Its not too bad to drive because it doesnt have a huge amount of power and I can feel exactly how much grip I have got. Just remember not to accelerate until pointing in a straight line.
It is the other road users that scare me. Having builders vans and 4x4s sliding towards me while I'm stationary, knowing that if they hit I am going to be in a lot of trouble is not a great way to start the day.
A couple of times I have had a car closer to my rear than I was comfortable with so I blip the throttle and the back end wags. They soon back off.

[url= http://www.portiacraft.com/cardetail.asp?make=07_Porsche_997&id=1438 ]This is fun in the snow[/url], really get a grip guys, it only took me 20 minutes to get the 3 yards in to my parking space 😉

My TT is shocking - too low, too much power, stupid electronics taking over ( even with things switched off). But as above, it is great for the vast majority of the year 🙂

535i auto - still covered in snow from last week - not moving it until its all gone, lucky with have an LR as well 😀

enlighten me on the Finnish Flick please.

I've just not moved my motorbike since the 20th of December, getting it going is easy enough, but stopping it gets a wee bit more challenging I've ridden it in the snow before when I've hard to but it's an absolute mugs game so it's benched for now and I'm commuting by mountain bike

My Astra VXR is not too good, but glad I PX'd the BMW for it in this weather! 🙂

Nice pic of Daresbury lab - I used to work in the NSF.

My Audi S3 has been nothing but a pleasure to drive in the snow 🙂

My willy waves well in these conditions too...

As for my honda aerodeathtrap, only got it stuck once, but seemed to haul it out with sense and patience.

My Renault Scenic is ****in' shocking.

My panda 100hp is mint in the snow (and lots of handbrake!),
saw a monaro VXR parked up on my ride today, best place for it!

My willy waves well in these conditions

A 340bhp hybrid Lexus, big problem is the electric motors 200bhp's worth in this case put out their maximum torque straight off idle so I have to keep my foot completely off the go faster pedal until there's dry-ish tarmac under the wheels.

Lexus IS 200.

Rear wheel drive. Unutterable rubbish in the snow. All other times - superb.

It made me look a right twunt driving off the drive two, three days ago. Intolerable.

[i]My Honda S2000 is a joke with little torque (so revs required) and fat rear summer tires + no traction control.
ah well, its fantastic the other 50 weeks of the year [/i]

The chap next door had a mate round last week who turned up in his S2000 and parked it up outside his house..

It's still there. 😉

I've seen BMW's spin right round on a straight road too this winter. I used to think RWD cars would be ace fun to own but I'm revising my opinion now. I can imagine anything with any power is a nightmare, especially if you're not concentrating and it's wet or icy.

I've only noticed a handful of motorbikes over the past two weeks- all have had L plates on. Funny that.

got my BMW 330 msport stuck half in half out the garage, pushed it back in, closed the door and spent the last week in the wifes audi Q, still managed to get that enbarrasingly stuck in Langsett carpark, nice man from the council used his grit allowance digging me out. I dream of the days when i drove a 1980's polo, well on the odd snowy day i do.

p.s. my Picasso drives a dream.

Noone know what a Norwegian flick is? I'd like to know

Noone know what a Norwegian flick is? I'd like to know

As you approach a corner turn the steering wheel a quarter turn in the wrong direction before immediately turning in the right direction for the corner. This uspset's the balance of the car and should result in a slide.

[i]Disclaimer - Always best to try in a empty car park first unless blessed with Colin Mcrae like natural ability.[/i]

Using solely observation alone: Audis seem to be spectularly bad in this weather. A surprise really but the only alternative is that it's the drivers and that can't be the case, now can it?

I got my Giacometti V6 stuck in the snow but I used a Danish pastry to get it out.

Wife TT with 19" alloys is rather crap

The Scandanavian flick. 😆

My mates 320d M Sport has been sat at the bottom of the hill near his house for nearly 2 weeks, it just doesn't work at all in ice/snow.

On the other hand my Mondeo TdCi 140 is pretty much ok if you're mega careful with the go pedal and brakes

mazda bongo 2.5tdi rwd auto with 17x235s, 😆 its a sledge

Saw a very brave/daft/desparate guy 'riding' a motorbike last Tuesday near Dalton, feet on floor,very slowly...........accident waiting to happen given the conditions then ......

Fiat Punto, terrible, tried going up a steepish hill this morning, it only got halfway up before losing traction.

Went back later with my rwd Iveco Daily with M&S tyres, cruised straight to the stop and could still accelerate on the steepest bit...from the tyre prints I was the first vehicle that had made it up 🙂

I live on a hill, and I'm still stunned by the number of people who try to get up the hill by gunning the engine, needless to say they only get about 50 metres before getting stuck. Everyone with a light foot who understands they need to ease off at the merest hint of wheelspin can get up 🙂

My RX8 with RE40 tyres trumps all of you. It has trouble gripping in rain let alone snow/ice.

mazda bongo 2.5tdi rwd auto with 17x235s, its a sledge

I've been pleasantly surprised by my Bongo - 4WD one though - First time I've driven an auto in the snow. Not the nightmare I thought it would be. Quite the opposite in fact. Running on 215/55/17/96 Pirelli P7's

so I blip the throttle and the back end wags. They soon back off.

This has been an amusing side effect of driving Mrs North's MX5 (now that I can complete a three point turn to get it out of our street).

My general view of RWD cars (and especially light ones like the MX5) is that one use the throttle gently and only ever in a straight line. And, if the back end starts to wag, concentrate on the steering and it will straighten up.

But a nice icy car park would be a laugh....

Our neighbour has a Toyota MR2, that thing is dreadful! I reckon she's parked into hedges backwards about 4 times this last two years she's owned it.

I noticed last night that she hadn't been out since Tuesday so went over and asked if she wanted to borrow our Rav4 so she could get to the shops and back, we live 8 miles from anywhere so me and the wife reckoned she could be getting pretty low on stuff.

Anyway she's just back from the shops and has dropped my car back with a few bottles of Leffe for this evening, bonus.

Brother in laws missus has a new MX5, It's not so much the weight but the mid engine design, there is no weight on any of the wheels, same for MG,s 911' s2000's etc etc.
I'm in an S reg corsa 1.3, yet to be totally stuck and if I do start sliding down my road I just steer into the banks, it's only worth about £50. Definitely the way forward, cars you don't care about .
I live on a steep hill in the cotswolds, I agree with the revving thing, people don't have a clue when it comes to snow.

For the last 16+ years, I've lived at the top of a steep hill.

I've had 5 rear wheel drive cars & during snowy conditions I found ( through trial & error), that placing heavy loads directly over the drive wheels ( and I do mean directly sat over the drive wheels), seem to help greatly with traction. Things like 4 or 5 bags of sand.

Admittedly dosen't really help with steering,or coming down hills but at least you can get usually get up them.

You still have to be 'sensitive' with the clutch, throttle, brake & steering, but it helped.

Chris

Reminds me of going down a street doing lock to lock in my old MX5......got to towards the end and sailed straight on....!

Incidently I drove past it today, the woman who bought it after me lives down my road!) and its now in Trafford Ford up for sale......I am tempted to become its 2nd and 4th owner.

there is no weight on any of the wheels

Cool! A floating car!

Hora wrote,

"I've only noticed a handful of motorbikes over the past two weeks- all have had L plates on. Funny that."

I'd still be riding if I had my old 125cc... Skinny tyres, no power, hardly any weight and very low centre of gravity. All these things usually made it rubbish

My old Avensis estate, which is hugely boring and uninteresting but practical for the bikes has been great - even when sliding up the hills in second gear for a laugh. Which is much more than can be said for the road gritting in Tunbridge Wells - useless local council.

RX8!! Mate has one and EVERY day without fail at work we've spent 50 odd minutes digging and pushing him out of the park and ride! got a lift in the back on slightly slushy roads... whoop slip and slide back adn forth felt awful! My 1.2 Skoda fabia has been brilliant in this weather no problems at all!

my Zonda is struggling a little in the snow at the moment

My mom has a Nissan Serena, rwd but got her a set of Kenda winter tyres. It's loads of fun in the snow and can do nice slides. But winter tyres are a must back home as the snow there stays for longer.

Best winter car was my mums old Vento with 13" 165mm wide winter tyres. Dirt cheap to buy and it just went through everything, never got stuck. Narrow tyres are the way to go, my uncle used to have a house on top of a hill and while his neighbour left his XJ and 4motion Passat on the main road and walked up, my uncle was able to drive easily in his Kangoo with narrow winter tyres and also drive down but didn't lock the wheels just left it in 1st and rolled down slowly.

The thing is this is my 5th winter here and it's the only time I saw snow for longer than couple of days so wouldn't be able to justify buying winter tyres as next winter might not be as white. I don't have a car anyway and if it snows I just take the mtb out and the road bike stays home 🙂 You can easily get 4 winter tyres for under £100. This winter probably surprised the council because previously if the temperature was going near 0 Celsius the gritters were already spreading on the road and roads were well maintained. But the amount of snow in such a short time was a bit of surprise. But it's +4 in Edinburgh now.

Bruk - my mum has an MX5 and the old man stuck 3 concrete breeze blocks in the boot. It's made a huge difference and it now drives fine in the snow and ice. Just take it easy.

Using solely observation alone: Audis seem to be spectularly bad in this weather. A surprise really but the only alternative is that it's the drivers and that can't be the case, now can it?

Discussing this earlier today, mostly because the audis (front wheel drive ones) use a transaxle where the engine runs longitudinally. this means the engine is infront of the axle line, and hence they tend to understeer quite badly.

Why do all big car parks now have some 'furniture' in them. I have many happy memories of hand brake turning etc around in them when iced up years ago.

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I got stuck in traffic behind a 1994 Discovery sliding all over the road if 20mph were hit. 14 miles took over 1 hour (and there was no snow, just a bit of melting sludge). It's the driver, less the car (unless you're a cok and drive a beemer).

My MGB GT, by a country mile.

I pushed a guy in a Lotus Carlton the other day, he was stuggling!

Lotus Carlton

Someone took a Lotus Carlton out in the snow.

The ****ing ****. He needs a kicking for that.

I'm still stunned by the number of people who try to get up the hill by gunning the engine, needless to say they only get about 50 metres before getting stuck.

Brother in laws missus has a new MX5, It's not so much the weight but the mid engine design

Eh? I think you might want to check that. Start at the front... 😀

surprised people complain about the TT, my 4motion Golf has the same chassis, running gear and Haldex and is fine in the snow in terms of traction - not so much as a slip (although crap at braking due to fat Pilot Sport tyres).

Will load some bricks in the boot! Never had a problem with it getting stuck or spinning the wheels, just v light feel to the back.

Too many numpties around to feel safe when your head sits below the level of the wheels of the arctic lorry sliding around in front of you.

My wifes bmw 1 series is now stuck in a cul-de-sac (normal tyres). It got snowed in for 3 weeks of the last month. My bmw 5 series is going great! (proper winter tyres). The 205 van is ok (normal kwik fit cheapo tyres). Gets going ok but fishtails like mad when I even think about touching the brakes. And no TCS. I think there's something wrong with it!!!! Or maybe it just needs more weight in the back?

2.2cdti civic ..utter pants

snow tyres needed soon, mind you its made glenshee a few times this season ..but light on the pedals tho 😯

Not in this snow but back in the day i had a renault 5 gt turbo which had been enhanced somewhat in the engine department. Drove home from Edinburgh, well minced home, managed a beautiful pirouette backwards through the tolls (as they had them then) and the guy managed to raise the arm quick enough to let me slide through. Walked back to pay my 40p ! ****ing thing got well stuck trying to get up the bridge itself but managed to eventually get home. 5 1/4 hours from Barnton to Aberdour and about 3 kg of skid marks in my pants.

I'd imagine my 993 wouldn't be so hot in the snow either, it has enough moments on wet roads !

During the weekly phone call home my elderly dad has been talking fondly of the days when he drove mk2 and mk3 Cortinas in the snow with 2 bags of cement in the boot as otherwise they were "interesting".
The most interesting car I've been out in snow was a '63 Impala going down Highway 12 just outside Starkville MS in the heavy snow they had there in January 92 even more so when a friend in his '72 2002 tii overtook us spinning wildly. Thank god for wide American roads.