Leith Hill – MEGA – who knows about this?????

Play nicely.

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Chucker, not really sure what you’re getting at but if you are reffering to the Olympic Road Race then you have a point. After all that has been planned and approved by all the relevant authorities, will be marshalled and have hugh resources to make sure the route stays clear and safe just like the Leith Hill mega – oh, hang on a minute !

Next time you mince your way down Northern Monkey or ride round the jumps on flytipper just remember who built these trails….he has virtually single handedly made what Surrey Hills riding is todaye.

What’s that then? Hated by the people that live there or loved by the London fanboys who think its there own personal trail centre? Please kindly inform me.
All the supporters seem to forget that it is ALL technically private land and we are bloody lucky to be allowed to ride in this beautiful area at all.
ALL the trails started off as illegal and as such we’ll always be fighting a losing battle. This event was idiotic to say the very least.

I understand some of you are feeling defensive. You’ve done something silly and now you’re feeling a bit confused and guilty. It’s quite natural to lash out under the circumstances but don’t worry, it gets much easier to deal with your emotions when you grow up 😆

lol @ Cheespleez

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So is this hero that supposedly built ALL the trails around the Surrey Hills (s’funny because I recall riding nearly all those same trails as far back as 15yrs ago but without the ‘rad’ jumps in them.. Whoa!) also the Twunt who’s been running van assisted illegal uplifts at Peaslake, further alienating MTBers from the local community?

London fanboys

Killer! 😀

Mattjg , reel your neck in

Lol I don’t even know what that means.

All the trailbuilding activities so far have been pushing the boundaries of acceptance in the area but this event might push them too far.

Perhaps a good balance would have been if unofficial marshals had been organised to line the route and make sure no-one was going to be in harms way as the riders came hurtling down.

Whereas this would also be wrong it would at least have demonstrated some degree of responsibility to onlookers, plus help avoid a potential accident that could have really shut down the area.

It would actually be preferable if a more substantial network of trails were built in the area – promoted on the grounds of keeping the mountain bikes to known areas and allowing trails to be commissioned and decommissioned to allow trail recovery.

The issue after that would be working it so the landowners weren’t liable for accidents on those trails – so they don’t get sued like Swinley do.

van assisted illegal uplifts

I’m not entirely sure there’s a law against uplifts. Or uplifts from Peaslake.

Here’s me earlier, up on the hill sniffing for excessive trail wear and discarded race numbers.

atlaz – Member

van assisted illegal uplifts

I’m not entirely sure there’s a law against uplifts. Or uplifts from Peaslake.

Maybe that should be immoral – not riding up a hill so you can come back down it – how lazy can you get?

van assisted illegal uplifts
I’m not entirely sure there’s a law against uplifts. Or uplifts from Peaslake.

Maybe not illegal but motorised-assisted sport is against the Hurtwood’s Byelaws, Regulations or Code of Conduct.

The point is valid – some Twunt has been organising van assisted uplifts from Peaslake. Is it the same goof-off involved in the Leith Hill ‘MEGA’?

Digger90 – you obviously don’t know your trails very well then. Nothing wrong with jumps, unless you can’t jump 😛

I naturally want to agree that illegal races are a bad thing and cause conflict with other users for no reason.

Then the people condemning the races start using terrible arguments like :-
Its private land were lucky to be able to ride there !

Just p**s off the people are who own the land are lucky ! Why should a few privileged people person have access to the best countryside in the SE.
Luckily the owners of the Hurtwood werent that short sited and have opened up the land to everyone. Also I think alot of the land from the Tower down to Wolvens lane is NT Im sure many of us are national trust members.

Frankly this sort of attitude just makes me hope the racers decide to start a race in the posters back garden.

Who is this deity of the hills then? Dare no one whisper his name?!

Thing is.

He actually now has a dialogue with the Hurtwood ranger and has permission to fix up alot of the legacy trails. Rad lane etc are much improved because of his work – don’t see many others out with shovels in hand eh njee…

the bloke with the tatts? he’s got two mobiles, is he drug dealer too?

freeridenick – no one is, I think, saying that building trails is a ‘bad thing’ the objection is to organising races on them.

A better approach to this whole situation would have been to have done it above board, speak to the land owners, promote it in a positive way and do it LEGALLY. It could actually have had some positive effects if it was done right. Sadly that opportunity has now well and truly gone. Chances of it being done legitimately now? Zilch.
Chances of it causing access issues for all the other cyclists? Huge.
It was “underground” because they knew it was wrong and illegal. Simple.

Daver27, well put sir, well put!

Yes he deals in Brown Pow and the freshest loam.

@freeridenick – what do you think of the Wisley style dirt jump on the trail you mentioned earlier (I am rubbish with the names but it’s in that area) – it must be 5-6ft high ?

Digger90 – you obviously don’t know your trails very well then. Nothing wrong with jumps, unless you can’t jump

Another outstanding example of totally missing the point…

What the new bigger jumps on Northern Monkey – they are fairly hefty!

But still a great trail if you don’t hit them

London is over-crowded. Every so often MBR etc run features on the Surrey Hills. Its rammed. So on that basis everyone with good intentions (sadly) is fighting a losing battle.

Peaks/access is DIFFERENT. Its literally deserted compared to my times down in the Surrey Hills. I bet tomorrow morning I see 2-3 other riders over two hills.

Another +1 for Daver27. As said above, I don’t think anyone is taking issue with the trails whoever is building them (and not all are down to this one mythical god) its the raceing thats the problem.

If he has this dialogue with the Hurtwood Ranger perhaps it would have been more sensible to arrange to have the race over there with his approval.

I think alot of the land from the Tower down to Wolvens lane is NT Im sure many of us are national trust members.

The NT have a deeply conservative membership and are generally very anti-cyclist. <unchecked ‘fact’>They own almost the entire Cornish coast path, none of which you are allowed to cycle on. </unchecked ‘fact’>

Next time you mince your way down Northern Monkey or ride round the jumps on flytipper just remember who built these trails….he has virtually single handedly made what Surrey Hills riding is today.

Sorry, but who has?
I ride there occasionally, but mostly weekdays and on my own, so I’m not really aware of what the local scene is and who has put the work in. Also, don’t really know the trail names (apart from the really obvious) but it does look like some good effort has been put into making it a decent riding area.

Surely we must be running out of fuel for this now very large fire. The so called organiser and uplift service are two different people. Judging someones age and intellectual ability by what they write on here isn’t really fair
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Lots of love , The Chuckle brothers …….

Sorry, but who has?

Tattoo Dave. He’s the only person to have ever wielded a spade, and were it not for him the entire Surrey Hills area would actually be marshland.

Because of this he is allowed, nay expected, to jeopardise future relations by organising illegal events on his terrain.

don’t see many others out with shovels in hand eh njee…

Do you know me? I don’t dig illegal trails no. I think that’s a good thing

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Dear Mr Tattoo, please don’t feel obliged to build illegal trails and jumps or organise illegal races on my behalf.

Dear Mr Tattoo, please don’t feel obliged to build illegal trails and jumps or organise illegal races on my behalf.

Please don’t do anything for me, either. Thanks.

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He actually now has a dialogue with the Hurtwood ranger and has permission to fix up alot of the legacy trails.

Organising illegal races without the permission or the ranger sounds like a great way to undo all that good work.

Or me for that matter