Legal advice please – cancelling a new car dispute

I’d love to read more but I’ve got to go and answer my phone it won’t stop linging. . .

Untergang clip From the Gateshead Bunker

rickmeister, thanks so much, laughed so hard I couldn’t breathe. Top work!

the OP and business owner are just trying to run lings round each other.

holmes81, the other end of the scale. Dreadful. Hang your head in shame.

Can someone point me at the origin of ‘baby robin’?

Ling used to be (may still be) a member on ARRSE.

featured on Dragons Den when the owner Ling Valentine went on asking for investment, which she didn’t get.

She got offered money for her business, actually as much as she wanted from memory but she turned it down. She just used the programme as an advert. She is a shrewd operator with a very successful business. Don’t underestimate her because of her website.

I think there’s definitely a smell of no publicity is bad publicity on the part a certain participant, why else would they spend an entire day baiting when they could be closing deals.

I also was having a shitty day so it’s been a welcome distraction from reality.

You’ll have to ask everyone who subsequently buys a car from Ling and doesn’t get as good a deal as she’s having to cover the costs of cancelled orders.

Quite.

Re all these people suggesting the finance status of the person using the car is “OK” as long as the car is paid for.

It’s not OK.

Finance information to a finance company must be truthful. Dreadful things happen when people lie. It exposes people. Like lying on an insurance application.

The integrity of any system relies on people telling the truth.

If a finance company found out they were lied to, they would probably reject the finance and likely put a marker on a credit file.

This is all cobblers.

Finance companies never ask who’s going to be driving the car, so you don’t have to lie to them.

They just want paying every month, which is why they make sure the person signing he documents is capable of paying.

They don’t give a shit who’s driving the car,

just like Bright House don’t give a shit who’s watching the TV or doing the Hoovering.

I’d love to read more but I’ve got to go and answer my phone it won’t stop longing.

Swang and a mass

Swing and a miss.

Swong and a moss, duh 🙄

I get the feeling this thread might get locked soon.

I guess if it goes down, it’ll go down in a ling of fire.

I’ve particularly enjoyed the unresolved sexual tension between Ling and poopscoop who have been flirting madly for most of the day.

I’m especially tickled by the notion that their children could be referred to as pooplings

According to Geordie Mick’s Facebook profile he’s a roller blader

That alone secures the victory for Ling

I’m especially tickled by the notion that their children could be referred to as pooplings

Or ling-cum-poops?

Or ling-cum-poops?

Eeeeew! Too far.

I’m especially tickled by the notion that their children could be referred to as pooplings

Chapeau! 😆

Let’s bring her back!

Ling, ling. Ling, ling……….hello

Untergang clip From the Gateshead Bunker

I missed this, but yes, it’s absolutely fantastic. *applause*

Just watched her on Dragons den via youtube, a funny and formidable lady, who is now probably very wealthy

^^or £500 poorer?

I think aggrieved parties should settle their differences in the ling.

I really hope that lings next customer is chewkw. You could sell tickets to the lingo chat session.

^^or £500 poorer?

£500 plus Vat. Apparently businesses can’t claim VAT back from non exististant contracts.

Bloody EU terkin er jerbs.

So what is it? Best mate or brother in law? Hmmm. Or is this just another lie to me when the car was applied for?

Ling it doesn’t matter two cahoots what relationship he is to me, the fact is, YOU have HIS details as the proposer for the finance that he completed and an order form with the delivery address of mine.

I spoke to your staff to get the position on this before we were forced onto your LINGO system. There was no lies, no misleading and as I showed earlier on, you were fully aware someone else was proposing the finance. At the point that we had agreed a spec YOU clearly say Simon will have to propose it and if you care to look at your LINGO you’ll see that’s when the conversations with me stop, and they start with Simon… How hard is that to comprehend?? Nobody has hoodwinked anyone, we made the application on the basis of your employee’s advice. She place me on hold whilst she asked the question so i’m guessing she’s referred it to you..

Legally, as long as the car is insured correctly and he is in a position to indemnify the finance company if I couldn’t pay then there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this situation. It’s a contract hire deal, would Northgate (a proper company) be asking Northumbrian Water who’s going to be driving their contract hire vehicles??

If the Poop hit the fan and the payments were missed you’d be nowhere to be seen anyways, so please don’t pretend like someones tried to steal money out of your bank or defrauded you. You make £200 off each car to your own admission so let’s play down your involvement in this, you simply ring up your local dealer and pass on a lead to them.

Your attempts at trying to muddy the waters are getting futile now and a huge distraction from the fact that you have illegally offered a contract without a cooling off period. .

Re all these people suggesting the finance status of the person using the car is “OK” as long as the car is paid for.

It’s not OK.

Finance information to a finance company must be truthful. Dreadful things happen when people lie. It exposes people. Like lying on an insurance application.

The integrity of any system relies on people telling the truth.

If a finance company found out they were lied to, they would probably reject the finance and likely put a marker on a credit file.

Are you for real??? Knowing his stature and his net worth I somehow doubt he’s lied to the finance company. Every bit of info he’ll have provided would be checked anyways, so please, stop making this out to be some sort of fraud, it’s absolutely pathetic.

Errrr…. it was him who started this thread, not me.

I’m duty bound to provide truthful info, it’s not a matter of lying to a finance company until they are “satisfied” and then saying “DONE!”

Again, you’re clutching at straws and forming an opinion on nothing other than stupidity and bitterness. If his info was inaccurate or uncheckable then it wouldn’t have got through with a pass would it?

Your defamatory claims are seriously borderline libel now. You have ZERO basis to make these claims.

The truth here is your website gathers information on finance applications in a very dubious way and how you forward that info on is of great concern.

Ling does have a certain way with words, but if the OP wasn’t a serial chancer who **** people over and thinks it’s ok, he wouldn’t even be in this situation. He needs to knuckle down, pay his own debts off, stop living beyond his means and messing people round. Do all those things and he won’t face the wrath of people like Ling. Simple really.

excuse me?? serial chancer how **** people over?? You clearly don’t know me and on the basis I’ve cancelled a T6 because the salesman lied to me about lead times and i’ve bought an incorrect tablet in the past?

I don’t have any debt, not thats your business…. But tope marks for being a judgemental w-anchor

This has ran it’s course now, i’ve wasted a day defending the legal position and of course some fairly shitty judgemental comments from strangers who just want to put the spoon in.

The legal position has been established on here, via trading standards, CAB and a few generous STW legal eagles, so if this goes to court then it’ll be interesting to see the outcome. Either way thought, she’s getting a visit from trading standards cos A) they’re not happy she’s claiming to be supported by them and B) not happy she’s distance selling non bespoke vehicles and not offering a mandatory cooling off period.

Ahem, a roller derby player. You have to be a real hard man to play roller derby.

This has ran it’s course now, i’ve wasted a day defending the legal position and of course some fairly shitty judgemental comments from strangers who just want to put the spoon in.

Just on this – you’d been here before you asked for advice on this particular issue. I’m a little disappointed you weren’t expecting the judgemental comments 😆

The Gateshead Bunker vid from Rickmeister is a work of genius!

tomhoward – Member
I really hope that lings next customer is chewkw. You could sell tickets to the lingo chat session.

I’d buy tickets for that, as long as there was a ballistic screen in place to protect the audience from the head asplosions.

I’m a little disappointed you weren’t expecting the judgemental comments

It was hard not to take them personally when you’ve had the week I have…

I’d buy tickets for that, as long as there was a ballistic screen in place

This constitutes you accepting the terms
Price is £500 + VAT, non refundable as bespoke request.

The OP is The Badger and I claim my £5.

from strangers who just want to put the spoon in.

I’d at least buy you a drink first if that was my intentions.

Love Lings Web site. Genius.

Best thread in ages BTW.

20 pages of reading. Worth it just for the birth of the fresh £500+vat meme.

This thread is great. Ling quoted on a skoda for me recently, wasn’t quite cheap enough so I went elsewhere, quite enjoyed the mental website once my eyes had adjusted!

Where I leased the car for asked for £500 upfront as a deposit, it I cancel they keep the £500, seems fair to me given they are ordering a specific vehilcle, build to order (in my case).

My previous lease I didn’t pay a penny until a month after delivery, not a penny!

Sounds to me like someone wants something they can’t afford (at the moment), gets someone else to finance it, realised they can’t afford it so changed their mind. Not sure why the lease company should take all the risk in this instance, just from a moral perspective.

Just off to make another cuppa.

I’ve had a glance at Ling’s Facebook page where she’s talking about this thread.

She states: “I will charge him an Agency Fee of £500+vat for the costs, outside the scope of the Consumer Credit or Distance Selling acts.”

Anyone understand the legality here? This reads to me as “regardless of the law, I’m sending him an invoice” – that surely can’t be what she means can it? By that logic I could bill the OP myself.

Doesn’t that say she thinks they don’t apply, so is sending him the bill?

By that logic I could bill the OP myself.

I think you can. Whether it has any value and should be paid will be a separate thread. I hope 🙂

OP – don’t back out now.
Keep it unused for long enough it will be worth a fortune just look at the McLaren F1 thread

I started reading this thread from the start when it was 17 pages long. By the time I caught up it is now on 20 pages.
My Surface 4 (pro of course, but not customised) now has a worn trackpad. Who do I charge for this wear?

I am on the side of the OP in this. Cancelling orders is never something to do lightly, but that is why cooling off periods exist. Ling move on, you lost me at BREXIT and your cycling jibes.

I’m waiting for poopscoop to respond to the facebook comments.