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  • Jeremy Corbyn
  • CaptainFlashheart
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    Buy shares in popcorn companies…

    frankconway
    Full Member

    All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.
    This won’t end well for him but he deserves what’s coming.

    binners
    Full Member

    All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.

    It was never really his strong suite.

    Bankrupted with legal fees and booted out of the Labour Party? He really isn’t very bright, is he?

    Talking of not being very bright, in another ‘you really couldn’t make it up’ irony, Len McCusky has come out and said the settlement was a ‘waste of Labour members fees’.

    Not like the union members fees used to fund lavish London flats and lunches at the Ivy, eh Len? That’s all money well spent?

    frankconway
    Full Member

    As for McCluskey, his caused a wry smile.
    I see he’s brought forward his retirement by 12 months; how can he possibly afford it? It’s not as if he’s fleeced the union for years…

    stumpyjon
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    All he had to do was keep his mouth shut.

    It was never really his strong suite.

    Apart from when we really could of done with him opening his mouth.

    binners
    Full Member

    Yes, let’s forget the 4 month sabbatical in spring/summer 2016 where he apparently took a Benedictine monk-esque vow of silence.

    Still… he’s now signed up for years of amusement in the libel courts and ultimately bankruptcy and being booted out of the Labour Party.

    Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.

    Along with “gifted the Tory party 2 elections and facilitated a hard, far-right no deal Brexit” that’s quite a legacy

    *slow handclap for Jeremy*

    frankconway
    Full Member

    If the libel case against corbyn goes ahead, I hope for the sake of his finances he’s got some sort of insurance/indemnity.
    When he stands down at the next election he will have done 40 years; based on his age and length of *service* as an MP his annual pension will be getting up towards his leaving salary and his re-settlement payment will also be close to his salary.
    Objectively, has he delivered VFM?

    binners
    Full Member

    He’s got all his Russia Today and Iranian State TV appearance money. He’ll be reet

    If he wants to lose the lot in a protracted pointless libel case, let him get on with it.

    He’s never been wrong about anything in his life, remember. Just like all his disciples.

    kerley
    Free Member

    Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.

    I didn’t really believe it either and I think I was wrong. I also thought it was just the fact he was an absolutely dreadful leader but am now seeing that some of the what look like failings may have been deliberate tolerance.
    Yes he has always been anti racist with the work and causes etc,. but I suppose you can be anti racist for one group and racist against another.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Just don’t read the comments on Corbyn’s statement on Facebook… very very depressing… I wish I hadn’t.

    fatmountain
    Free Member

    A McCarthy era witch hunt seems to be the price for someone who speaks truth to power. Please help us fight back:

    It is reported that John Ware a reporter for Panorama is taking legal action for libel against former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn. The relentless attacks on Mr Corbyn, a man of integrity, honesty and humility cannot be allowed to continue and we have an opportunity here to offer him support in a practical way. It will also let him know that his supporters have not forgotten him, nor have they gone away.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/47gyy-jeremy039s-legal-fund

    Aim of 20,000 was smashed within days. We’ve now raised almost a quarter of a million pound.

    martinhutch
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    Just don’t read the comments on Corbyn’s statement on Facebook… very very depressing… I wish I hadn’t.

    I have no truck with Corbyn, but Ware’s case to sue him personally over his statement following the LP’s decision to settle looks pretty weak.

    The original response to the Panorama implied bad faith and Ware lacking journalistic integrity. That was actionable, and the Labour Party has rightly settled.

    Corbyn’s statement (if I’m looking at the right one) is mainly critical of the decision to settle, and merely references what he considers ‘inaccurate and misleading’ reporting. No-where is the allegation of deliberate bad faith on the part of Ware repeated. Politicians accuse journalists of innacurate and misleading reporting every day, it’s the stock-in-trade of rebuttal. Impugning the personal integrity and motivation of the reporter is something different. Corbyn does not do this in the statement.

    Labour Party members have a right to accountability and transparency of decisions taken in their name, and an effective commitment from the party to combat antisemitism and racism in all their forms.

    The Party’s decision to apologise today and make substantial payments to former staff who sued the party in relation to last year’s Panorama programme is a political decision, not a legal one.

    Our legal advice was that the party had a strong defence, and the evidence in the leaked Labour report that is now the subject of an NEC inquiry led by Martin Forde QC strengthened concerns about the role played by some of those who took part in the programme.

    The decision to settle these claims in this way is disappointing, and risks giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations about action taken to tackle antisemitism in the Labour Party in recent years.

    To give our members the answers and justice they deserve, the inquiry led by Martin Forde must now fully address the evidence the internal report uncovered of racism, sexism, factionalism and obstruction of Labour’s 2017 General Election campaign.

    Reading it again, the ‘misleading and inaccurate allegations’ line does not even specifically refer to Ware’s reporting, and I fail to see what it contains that is actionable.

    fatmountain
    Free Member

    Thanks Martin. Very insightful.

    dazh
    Full Member

    and I fail to see what it contains that is actionable.

    You appear to have forgotten your pitch fork. Honestly some people on here should have a serious think because it’s bordering on frothing at the mouth hysteria. Pathetic.

    ctk
    Free Member

    Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.

    Is there another statement that I haven’t seen?

    gauss1777
    Free Member

    Is there another statement that I haven’t seen?

    I had a look around, but could not find anything. I for one would find it helpful if people could at least give a gist of what they are implying/saying and a link if necessary.
    This is a general point, not aimed specifically at anyone in particular.

    As an aside, with all this suing going on, is not the statement:

    Having read the statement he gave today, he deserves everything he gets. I never really believed he was an antisemite. Just feeble, weak and tolerant of antisemetic views due to his inability of leadership. After reading that and seeing what else has come out in the wash today, I was wrong. He is.

    rather dogmatic?(I’m struggling for the correct word here. But ‘He is’, doesn’t allow for much wiggle room).

    binners
    Full Member

    It seems that Jezza could eat a child on live TV and Twitter would still be flooded with idiots posting #StandWithJeremyCorbyn

    So they’ve raised a shitload of money to buy him a bigger shovel?

    If anyone was ever in any doubt that Corbynism is some kind of weird cult, they won’t be after this week

    Hatstand, the lot of them

    Wake up and take your blinkers off FFS. The present legal actions being taken against the Labour Party due to the dodgy carry on of Jezza, Seamas and chums is going to cost millions and potentially bankrupt the party

    Please feel free to enlighten me as to which socialist agenda this furthers, won’t you? 🙄

    kelvin
    Full Member

    The decision to settle these claims in this way is disappointing, and risks giving credibility to misleading and inaccurate allegations about action taken to tackle antisemitism in the Labour Party in recent years.

    Reading it again, the ‘misleading and inaccurate allegations’ line does not even specifically refer to Ware’s reporting, and I fail to see what it contains that is actionable.

    Sure, must be on about something other than the cases he is commenting on. Makes sense. To someone who just wants to believe that is.

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    Jezza is currently busy deleting his tweets to Wiley.

    Can’t say I blame him.

    fatmountain
    Free Member

    It seems that Jezza could eat a child on live TV and Twitter would still be flooded with idiots posting #StandWithJeremyCorbyn

    So they’ve raised a shitload of money to buy him a bigger shovel?

    If anyone was ever in any doubt that Corbynism is some kind of weird cult, they won’t be after this week

    Hatstand, the lot of them

    Ok I’ll bite:

    Why are people who agree with Mr. Corbyn’s politics and ideology “idiots”?

    You use the term “Corbynism”, but can you define it?

    You talk about a “cult”, do you therefore feel that all popular politicians have ‘cults’?

    big_n_daft
    Free Member

    A McCarthy era witch hunt seems to be the price for someone who speaks truth to power. Please help us fight back:

    If that someone is a frequent flyer on RT and Press TV then I would ask which “truth” are they speaking to which “power”

    binners
    Full Member

    You talk about a “cult”, do you therefore feel that all popular politicians have ‘cults’?

    Popular? The most unpopular leader of any political party on record? Even Iain Duncan Smith never came close to magic grandads poll ratings.

    Jeremy Corbyn was never very popular with anyone other than a rather small group of oddballs who’s weird devotion to him, no matter what he does, is all a bit David Koresh. If you read all the bullshit from his #StandWithJeremy followers on Twitter you’d think he was the messiah

    I mean, seriously…. have they ever watched the Life of Brian? There schtick is truly beyond parody

    It’s a cult.

    gauss1777
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    popular
    /ˈpɒpjʊlə/
    adjective
    1.
    liked or admired by many people or by a particular person or group.

    He seems to actually fit the definition. As usual most of what you say is shite and yet you bandy insults about like sweeties. As I seem to recall somebody else saying previously, it’s just so **** tiresome.
    Any people here mildly supporting him, appear only to suggest he be given a fair hearing (as far as I can see).

    I mean, seriously…. have they ever watched the Life of Brian? There schtick is truly beyond parody

    Ps if you’d had made it to sixth form you might have mastered how to spell ‘their’, many manage long before that.

    binners
    Full Member

    To be fair to them, the People’s Front of Judea have raised quarter of a million quid in 24 hours to pay for the pointless and protracted legal battle Grandad is about to lose

    Imagine what they could manage if they actually applied themselves to doing something useful?

    It’s a cult

    dazh
    Full Member

    A record number of members, And more votes than Blair but of course that doesn’t fit the revisionist scorched earth policy of the right. I almost hope they go bankrupt due to these court cases that the right wingers (ironically) are starting.

    binners
    Full Member

    Unfortunately Daz, that attitude seems to be fairly typical amongst Corbynites.

    They’d happily see the Labour Party go bust, just as they seem to be gleefully cheering the dire financial straits the Guardian is in.

    Talk about myopic, deluded and self-absorbed.

    Corbyn is in the trouble he is in because of the Labour Party report on antisemitism put together by Jennie Formby that was an out and out hatchet job.

    Predictively enough though, they conducted it in the same manner that personified everything else they ever did… with rank incompetence

    Which is why they are now the target of multiple legal proceedings. All of which they’ll lose.

    There’s a reason Starmer looked to draw a line under this and settle these cases. He knew they were indefensible. After all, as a former DPP he knows a thing or two about the law.

    But unfortunately it will be the Labour Party itself, as an organisation, rather than these clowns, that is left to foot the bill for this criminal ineptitude and Self-interested arse covering.

    I’d like to see this cabal be held personally financially liable. They’re all millionaires after all.

    Solidarity? My arse!

    gauss1777
    Free Member

    Binners:

    to pay for the pointless and protracted legal battle Grandad is about to lose

    I have tried to find what this legal battle actually is, but I cannot find the details. Everywhere seems to suggest it’s still only a possibility. But, since you appear certain he’ll lose, what odds would you offer me?

    gauss1777
    Free Member

    Imagine what they could manage if they actually applied themselves to doing something useful?

    Does that include posting the same pictures, from the same film, ad infinitum?

    dazh
    Full Member

    that attitude seems to be fairly typical amongst Corbynites.

    Probably a response to being called racists and extremists for two years. I don’t blame them them. A split is on it’s way I reckon. Great job at unifying the party.

    Funny though that it was right wingers who used party issued phones to actively organise against the party’s 2017 election chances and then when exposed they take legal action to win a quick buck, endangering the party’s finances. Yet somehow it’s the fault of the left? It’s a rotten organisation and deserves everything it gets. I’ve already stopped my membership and will be voting green from now on.

    kelvin
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    Don’t go after whistleblowers. Such a vain and politically damaging decision from the ex-leader.

    binners
    Full Member

    I have tried to find what this legal battle actually is, but I cannot find the details.

    You can’t have looked very hard. It’s been all over the press.

    Jennie Formby produces a report on antisemitism that exonerated Jeremy and chums and then defamed and slandered the people – all Labour Party staff – making the accusations.

    The Labour party’s lawyers took one look at it and told them that there was no way on earth they could publish that as it was so full of holes and a clear hatchet job that they would be guaranteed to be on the receiving end of multiple lawsuits for slander and defamation.

    So they leaked it to the press

    Then guess what happened?

    This is how interested the Corbynites really are about social justice or whatever. They’re prepared to bankrupt the party as a final act of tantrum-throwing vandalism

    Solidarity? Yeah, right

    It staggers next that people are so gullible to be taken in by these charlatans

    fatmountain
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    Binners, you failed to answer my questions, because if you had tried to, you’d have made a fool out of yourself. But what fascinates is me your obsessive hatred of Mr. Corbyn. What do you think is the source of that?

    binners
    Full Member

    Eh? What’s this, now? Therapy?

    I dislike Jeremy Corbyn because he has delivered, as predicted, two consecutive Tory election victories, including their present huge majority, and Brexit, which he always wanted anyway.

    So his actions have massively damaged the very people the Labour Party is meant to represent.

    And now we see that the final act of his disastrous ‘leadership’ is to potentially bankrupt the party. Something that he is clearly totally unapologetic about, narcissistic ego-maniac that he is

    Of course, him and his millionaire Marxist mates will all be fine, won’t they? While the party is left to pay out millions to the people he slandered.

    And they will continue to do all in their power to deliver permanent Tory government. About the only thing they’ve actually been any good at.

    Self-serving charlatans, the lot of them. It staggers me that some people still can’t or won’t see through them

    dannyh
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    The Labour Party was unelectable under Corbyn. Now it isn’t.

    Jezza doesn’t like it.

    Boo f***ing hoo.

    If there hadn’t been a Michael Foot tribute act (but a sort of grotesque cabaret version) in charge for 2016-2020 we might have stood a chance of avoiding the Brexit catastrophe.

    Do the people you are supposed to represent a favour, Grandpa, and **** off quietly. There’s a good lad.

    inkster
    Free Member

    Dear Jezza. You lost. Twice. Please go away.

    Your performance in this current debacle will only confirm in the minds of those who didn’t vote for you, why they didn’t vote for you.

    It’s not as if you’re not even trying to defend yourself from the charge of antisemitism any more. It’s some other ‘principle’ your trying to stand up for and nobody can quite work out what it is.

    frankconway
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    corbyn as leader? £3 to vote was one of the key determinants.
    Another…’he would not even have been a candidate in the first place if it hadn’t been for the generosity of some of his fellow MPs.
    Under the contest’s rules, he needed the support of 35 MPs – 20% of the parliamentary party – to be nominated and to get onto the ballot paper. This looked unlikely as he hovered around the 30 mark close to the deadline in mid-June.
    Yet, he managed to get over the threshold with minutes to spare. The reason he did so was that a number of MPs – including some with diametrically opposed views – “lent” him their votes. At the time, they argued Labour needed the widest possible debate after its election defeat and it would be wrong if the left of the party was excluded.
    Those MPs who helped Mr Corbyn over the line were memorably derided by John McTernan, ex-adviser to Tony Blair, as “morons who need to have their heads felt”. One of them, former acting party leader Margaret Beckett, ruefully owned up to being a “moron”.
    McTernan was so right.
    The labour party, unwittingly, provided the platform for corbyn.
    Now, under a new leader, we’re seeing a clearing out of the invasive knotweed which has been suffocating the party for years.
    Corbyn failed to prove either leadership or direction.
    Any mildly critical analysis of the culture he enabled would clearly say…we’re going in the wrong direction.
    Formby, murphy, milne, lansman, mccluskey are now nothing more than voices in the wind; corbyn’s election as leader was the great leap backward – not his take on Mao’s great leap forward.
    Jezza – you were nothing more than a distraction and an irrelevance.

    kerley
    Free Member

    When Corbyn was elected as leader I was in full support o that and it changed the party to the right direction politically. However, it was soon very clear that he was a useless leader and was to become a liability – he and those around him knew that too but did nothing about it and carried on blindly. The fact he lost to May should have been the final straw and couldn’t have been clearer to anyone looking at it objectively.

    That is the reason I dislike what he and his supporters have done.

    fatmountain
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    Eh? What’s this, now? Therapy?

    Trying to understand the hatred. It genuinely baffles me. The right-wing called us “Corybnites” and “Marxists”, but most of the people I know who supported Corbyn are just teachers, nurses, social workers etc., who felt like the country was going the wrong way and didn’t like it.

    I dislike Jeremy Corbyn because he has delivered, as predicted, two consecutive Tory election victories, including their present huge majority, and Brexit, which he always wanted anyway.

    This is what baffles me most – the responsibility for that surly lies with those who voted Tory? By that same logic, do you blame the police for criminals?

    So his actions have massively damaged the very people the Labour Party is meant to represent.

    Which actions are they? I’m genuinely interested. Corbyn got a bigger share of the popular vote than any other leader since the post-war period. Under Corbyn, the opposition forced more defeats and U-turns on a Tory government in history. The membership of the Labour party grew to be the biggest in Europe. How do you square that with your belief system?

    And now we see that the final act of his disastrous ‘leadership’ is to potentially bankrupt the party. Something that he is clearly totally unapologetic about, narcissistic ego-maniac that he is

    How do you know he’s “narcissistic ego-maniac”? Have you ever met him? Where do you get that information from?

    Of course, him and his millionaire Marxist mates will all be fine, won’t they? While the party is left to pay out millions to the people he slandered.

    Which millionaire “marxist” mates would they be? Trying to portray Corbyn as part of the monied elite is ludicrous, but entirely consonant with the current level our “world beating” political debate.

    And they will continue to do all in their power to deliver permanent Tory government. About the only thing they’ve actually been any good at.

    Blair himself said he’d rather see the Tories gain power than a socialist government under Mr. Corbyn. You seem to have a very selective memory Binners. Do you not remember 1/3rd of the party openly revolving at the most critical of times? How about Israeli lobbying to undermine the opposition?

    Do you even recognise the unprecedented defamation campaign in the media? Below is a link – I don’t think anyone would gain power in this country with such a rigorous defamation campaign. Below is a video – what do you think of it?

    Self-serving charlatans, the lot of them. It staggers me that some people still can’t or won’t see through them

    Can you highlight with some evidence how they ‘served themselves’? Did they come away significantly wealthier? Corbyn for a start had a clean history with parliamentary expenses. What are you trying to say here?

    mariner
    Free Member

    The only ones who seem to have come away wealthier are those who were supposed to be working for the party not against it and took their thirty pieces of silver doled out by Stammer along with an apology.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Which millionaire “marxist” mates would they be?

    I’ll start you off…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Murray_(trade_unionist)

    https://www.ft.com/content/dc552842-5289-11ea-8841-482eed0038b1

    Feel free to check out anyone related to this group of individuals…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Left

    The only ones who seem to have come away wealthier

    Juicy pre-election contracts for the ‘top team’ only…

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/corbyn-seumas-milne-karie-murphy-permanent-contracts_uk_5df7acc7e4b03aed50f2409f

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/angry-labour-staff-could-strike-21113773

    Feel free to do your own research about Len “man of the people” McCluskey’s rewards.

    took their thirty pieces of silver

    That’s a pretty loud dog whistle you have there.

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