Jeremy Corbyn

Do “maximum wage” caps come in various colours? Hopefully not the wide brim version seen with the “Lets make US great again” versions…

A nice navy or Paris blue in large please…with “Yes please” on the back above the adjuster strap

Is Corbyn really proposing a maximum wage? I doubt it. What he may be proposing is punitive policy mechanisms to discourage ridiculous inequalities between those at the top and bottom. I can think of a number of ways it could be achieved without setting an absolute maximum limit.

Not sure how this will play though. On the one hand if you ask the average joe in the street if top bosses are paid too much, they’ll say yes, absolutely. On the other the rabid headlines and loony left BS will drown out whatever else he has to say on immigration, brexit etc. Seems to me Corbyn would much rather be labelled a loony left rabble rouser than an elitist middle class metropolitan. And if the effect on Premier League footballers is the best the likes of Jamba can come up with to counter it, then maybe he’s onto something.

teamhurtmore – Member

CTK, did you even attempt to read what I said? Note my first two words, they are q important.

The first 2 words you wrote in that previous post “if true” make no difference to my reply to your post (did you even read my post…)

My point is that its hypocritical for a Tory (albeit a shy one) to say Labour are scrabbling around at the feet of xenophobes. The Tories, the Tory press do that. Corbyn does not, Labour’s new policy does not.

If you are not a Tory voter of course I am entirely wrong. In fact I hope for your sake you are not. Being partly culpable for Brexit must be a bitter pill to swallow for all pro remain Tory voters.

If you are not a Tory voterCorbyn supporter of course I am entirely wrong. In fact I hope for your sake you are not. Being partly culpable for Brexit must be a bitter pill to swallow for all pro remain Tory voters Corbyn supporters.

is equally true

Is Corbyn really proposing a maximum wage? I doubt it. What he may be proposing is punitive policy mechanisms to discourage ridiculous inequalities between those at the top and bottom. I can think of a number of ways it could be achieved without setting an absolute maximum limit.

I’d be very excited if I was on minimum wage employed by a Premiership Club

Corbyn’s relaunch speech and Brexit stance has been totally overshadowed by this maximum wage story. He’s in the headlines but not for the reasons the press office wanted.

Is Corbyn really proposing a maximum wage?

I don’t think even he knows, it was made up on the hoof, so there is no chance for the electorate. Meanwhile the vacuum of anything more than a soundbite gives everyone else the chance to define what it may be and explain what a terrible idea that is.

He is quite simply the worst Labour party leader ever.

Not sure how this will play though. On the one hand if you ask the average joe in the street if top bosses are paid too much, they’ll say yes,

And this is what he needs to play to. Who cares if it is impossible to implement, you know the intentions and intentions are what people vote on.
As you say though the media will twist anything he does or says. For real democracy to exist we would need to scrap politically biased media.

Corbyn went off-piste as usual in responce to a question. It’s not Laboir policy but he said “they where looking at it”

According to Sky the two countries with one are Cuba and Egypt

big_n_daft – Member

If you are not a Tory voterCorbyn supporter of course I am entirely wrong. In fact I hope for your sake you are not. Being partly culpable for Brexit must be a bitter pill to swallow for all pro remain Tory voters Corbyn supporters.

is equally true

Tories got elected with a pledge to have a referendum therefore Tory voters voted to have an EU referendum. Labour voters voted for remain at 65%. So not really.

What about linking top earners in a company with the lowest? That’s a bit more widespread isn’t it? IIRC the USA used to have it?

Has he called for a maximum wage like the headlines say? I just heard him say we are looking at it.

What about linking top earners in a company with the lowest? That’s a bit more widespread isn’t it? IIRC the USA used to have it?

Seems a better idea but I imagine it would result in more workers being recruited through agencies.

Agencies need looking at IMO. That would be a vote winner.

Corbyn went off-piste as usual in responce to a question

No he didn’t. He was asked a question at the end of a long interview and gave a brief answer to it. The press chose to report that issue rather than the bulk of the interview. Big surprise.

I’d imagine that being a press officer for Labour at the moment and watching Corbyn must be like being a United fan when we had Fabien Barthez as a goalkeeper.

Hang on a minute… you’re the goalkeeper….. why are you stood by the half-way line? WTF are you actually doing?!!!!

It is unfortunate that a resonable portion of the population doesn’t want to even move towards that and in fact running away from it.

They can run, but they can’t hide…

Wouldnt’ be fair for a cleaner of one company to be paid more because the company is doing well*. It’s not likely to be doing well because its offices are cleaner…?

* or would it? Genuine question. Could be argued either way.

What about linking top earners in a company with the lowest? That’s a bit more widespread isn’t it?

As well as agencies, it could also drive one person ltd companies, which are already very prevalent in certain industries. Could also result in companies splitting up into loads of smaller ones, with the big earners outside of the UK.

Wouldnt’ be fair for a cleaner of one company to be paid more because the company is doing well*. It’s not likely to be doing well because its offices are cleaner…?

* or would it? Genuine question. Could be argued either way.

You can’t have pay based on “fairness” because nobody can agree what fair is.

Companies just have to pay the market rate to fill the position.

Cleaners are utterly mission critical in a cleaning company – they don’t get paid more than the non-mission critical staff, like the HR team.

@molgrips I have commented on that issue before. Either all low paid jobs will be eliminated and outscourced or the senior management will all work for a service company. Or they will just go elsewhere. As long as I know the US has had no such policy, top management pay in the US is much much higher than the UK.

DrJ that’s why senior politicans used to being in the limelight don’t answer questions. Do you remember that piece of Milliband saying the same thing repeatedly to every question ? That’s why they do it. Corbyn was telling us what he really thinks on the issue, sadly for Labour it’s unworkable.

Ctk,

They do make a difference and yes – hence the reply
I dislike xenophobia full stop. It doesn’t matter what affinity to a party the person has
Correct, you are entirely wrong. Well said.
I have no culpability for Brexshit. I was a remainer.

Corbyn was telling us what he really thinks on the issue, sadly for Labour it’s unworkable.

I’d imagine a simple wage cap would be unworkable yes.

But that’s no reason to give up on sharing the wealth.

A £10 min wage would be more interesting.

Has he called for a maximum wage like the headlines say? I just heard him say we are looking at it.

If the headlines say it, what makes you think you can trust your ears?

@thm The first 2 words don’t make a difference.

Do you agree anyone who voted Tory at last election is partly culpable for brexit?

You carry on jumping on Labours immigration policy from your neutral standpoint.

They do, they set the context and makes point 3 redundant
No, that is illogical. People who voted Leave are responsible whatever, if any, party allegiance they have.
I wait to see what Labour’s new policy is. Hence, “if true” remember?

They don’t because Labour’s new position is not xenophobic. You read the articles linked so you know that.

Tory voters in the last election voted for amongst other things an EU referendum and to get immigration in the 10s of thousands. Anyone who voted Tory voted for these things.

A £10 min wage would be more interesting.

Yup, it really needs to be regional though due to differences in cost of living. Needs to be fully implemented re “costs” deducted and the gig economy needs to comply. In fact I’d start with making the gig economy compliant with existing minimum wage and employment rights.

I haven’t heard his latest proposals so cannot comment, but I hope that you are correct. As I said, I applaud Jezza’s resistance to xenophobic pressure and hope that he remains true to his conviction here.

You are correct the Tories promised a referendum (tick) and to cut immigration (cross). Your point?

…is on the last few posts thm. If only you had read
them 😉

The 10s of thousands target became a par for a decent amount of immigrants to accept. Was very damaging to remain campaign Imo.

Yes setting a target for immigration was a Remain disaster as it simply highlighted the fact there is no control over immigration from the EU. Had there been no target the Govt could have just said, yes we meant it to be 200,000 and growing.

I have, they don’t make sense.

The target was pretty stupid, correct, and they have missed it by miles. I am unconcerned about it since I am not in favour of the policy. In fact, I am pleased that they have been unable to deliver on that commitment.

If we had voted remain, we would have been part of the single market with all that that implies. What the Tories said about controlling immigration was irrelevant to the debate.

Yup, it really needs to be regional though due to differences in cost of living. Needs to be fully implemented re “costs” deducted and the gig economy needs to comply. In fact I’d start with making the gig economy compliant with existing minimum wage and employment rights.

Hmm.. so someone as Tory as you supports this kind of social policy. Interesting (genuinely). So why doesn’t the Tory party implement such things?

If you are typical of the membership, then is it really just big business calling the shots? Is that the real problem with our political society currently?

Tories got elected with a pledge to have a referendum therefore Tory voters voted to have an EU referendum. Labour voters voted for remain at 65%. So not really.

Labour got elected with a pledge to have a referendum, they just didn’t hold one.

I have no culpability for Brexshit

neither do I having voted “remain”

however we have a collective responsibility to make Brexshit work, JC’s contribution is to look so incompetent it’s clear that May will form the next government whilst in the negotiations

the real disaster for remain was from Juncker

“British voters have to know that there will be no kind of renegotiation. We have concluded a deal with the prime minister. He got the maximum he could receive and we gave the maximum we could give. So there will be no renegotiation, not on the agreement we found in February, nor as far as any kind of treaty negotiations are concerned.”

the day before the vote

We do have control over EU immigration. It is factually incorrect to say that we don’t. Hence my comment that FOM is a potentially misleading term. QED.

I agree wih the collective responsibility bit too. The decision has been made and needs to be implemented. Jezza needs to stop fanning around with illogical statements like this morning. labour are spilt on the EU and immigration as are the Tories. He can’t hide that fact but still needs to make a leadership stand. So far that has been to put the xenophobic in their place. For that he should be applauded.

Collective responsibility also means getting on with A50. Leave the posturing to Fallon.

In fact I’d start with making the gig economy compliant with existing minimum wage and employment rights.

I would also tackle the tax subsidy that companies get compared to having “staff” as well

If you want to watch Jezza’s speech he’ll be on Sky in a few moments. Apparantly he will talk about the maximum wage, added at the last minute or always planned. You tell me 😉

Loving the hysteria on this maximum wage thing. Did everyone miss the thing about him relaunching himself as a left populist? He has no intention of having a maximum wage as policy. He has every intention of lining himself up as an anti-establishment figure who speaks for normal people against the excesses of billionaires and corporate bosses who think they’re worth a salary of 70M a year.

He does need to tweak his language though. Instead of saying ‘we’re looking at a maximum wage’, he should just say, ‘the fat cats are paid too much and are not worth it’. It would have the same effect without the implied policy commitments. Long way to go before he’s a British Bernie Sanders, but at least heading in the right direction.

Here’s the immigration bit:

..can’t see too much change so far.

Glad he made the point that public services are not under pressure because of immigration. Tick.

“we support fair rules and reasonable management of migration” – err, that’s it. Cross or perhaps question mark, since it doesn’t mean anything

Ooh, so seems like a hint that no company with a CEO earning more than £300k ish would be awarded a gov contract, hmmmm……