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Right, so we've had a day of stories about how she's riddle with cancer, spokespersons from the medical professions stating how she will have to decide whether to undergo treatment that might extend her life by a few weeks or spend her final moments with her family, free from the associated side effects of the afore-mentioned treatment bla-de-bla-de-bla.
Now we have a 'News Just In' from that doyen of oncology, Max Clifford, in which he says there's a new drug - a ray of hope in these dark, dark times - that is perfect for saving loudmouth fat racists who are riddled with the Big C.
Now, am I being overly cynical?
Synigal
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I feel sad for the kids
Nah just being a cock.
I wouldn't Piedi, I have a sneaking suspicion she might make a full recovery.
snigletrack - are you trying to be funny?
Only time will tell.
I hope she isnt about to die for her childrens sake.
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I don't wish Cancer on anyone. Hope there is a new drug and she gets better.
I have a sneaking suspicion she might make a full recovery.
You're an ignorant idiot. Just shut up. Now. Before you make yourself look like a bigger @rse than you already have.
Snigletrack
shame on you mate..
Couldn't care less about her fate either way.
Why is she anymore deserving of attention and sympathy than any seriously ill person?
I know what snigle is saying, he suspects it might all be a publicity stunt, like I said, time will tell.
It would be a particularly sick one though.....
I feel for anyone living with cancer, it must be completely horrific. If there's a chance, good luck to her.
[i]I don't wish Cancer on anyone. Hope there is a new drug and she gets better. [/i]
Here too
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't wish it on the most obnoxious racist. But I can't help thinking it's all a bit stage managed.
Perhaps it's just my complete and utter distrust for anything that Max Clifford is involved with...
Snigle
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She isnt any more deserving, but are you saying you couldnt care less about anyone's fate in these circumstances? Nice.....:s
If it's all true, I feel dreadful for the children. But I can't stand all her martyred posturing of 'Brave' Jade Goody on the front of magazines, has she no pride or dignity? She cut all her hair off before it fell out, as many women do rather than see it disappear in clumps, I acknowledge, but then to go in magazines parading it, smacks of milking the situation for the bucks. Perhaps she's doing it to maximise her income in order to leave plenty of money for her children, but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Snigle google Secondary Liver cancer, then hang your head in shame.
Better still shove a red hot poker up your arse and you may get a rough idea of how much pain these people are in.
Didn't something similar happen to Jordan when the world hated her.
We're all going to die sooner or later, it's just one of those things. I certainly won't mourn her.
If she'd enriched my life, then yes, I would be sympathetic like I would be if it was a friend or family member.
As it is, all she's ever done is wind me up and cause revulsion. So whilst I pity her family and those whose lives she might enrich, my world will be a better place without her.
Sorry if that's unpalatable, but I suspect a lot of people would agree.
Anyway, since when did cancer become the new racialism?
Snigle
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I hate to say it but you are a twunt. My gran died of cancer a few years back and I can honestly say was the biggest racist I knew. Think about your words before you press the send button.
right, i have met jade several times and she's down to earth and a bit scatty.she is kind and never charged my daughter ever for her manicures when she owned her beauty salon in hertford.
i dont watch big brother but i remmeber my wife watching it when jermaine jackson described her and her family as trailer park white trash.2 weeks before the erruption in the papers.
i wish her nothing but healing vibes and love.
snigletrack - If you looking for people to say it serves her right, its all done for publisity blah blah blah then i think you need to take a look in the mirror.
I don't like what've seen of the woman in interviews etc etc but would never wish cancer on ANYONE and i suspect that goes for 99.9% of people who have seen 1st hand what the effects can be.
My gran died of cancer, however I don't find Snigletracks words offensive. Get off yer high horses ffs.
I can see the headline now:
[center]Snigletrack In 'Being A Cock' Shock[/center]
She isnt any more deserving, but are you saying you couldnt care less about anyone's fate in these circumstances? Nice.....:s
Nah not like that. It did sound a bit harsh but why isn't there a story on the front of the newspaper about every cancer victim? Hello and OK readers will wring their hands in an outpouring of grief wailing "wont someone think of the children".
I don't wish her any ill even though she's a despicable no mark but her plight deserves no more attention than anyone elses.
25 posts in 4 minutes... This could be my fastest century ever!
Snigle
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[i]Nah not like that. It did sound a bit harsh but why isn't there a story on the front of the newspaper about every cancer victim?[/i]
They don't make a newspaper big enough?
As someone who works with oncology patients on a daily basis I really don't think cancer should be wished on such a minor irritant as Jade thingy.
Now Robert Mugabe................
I bet you're right Jedi, she probably is a really nice person.
All she has done is be dizzy and maybe act a bit thick and chavvy, Ive never seen her showing the nastiness that you read about her.
hhhmmmmm.
I don't think anyone wished cancer on her, did they?
Cancer's not funny mate.
Good luck to the lass.
Hope she pulls through regardless of who she is.
Feel for the children.
Snigle apart from the fact you are being a dick, your question was you don't believe her secondary liver cancer will be fatal.
So to follow that up, google it it won't take you long to realize that 'making a full recovery' isn't going to happen, as 99% of people don't recovery from it, and it typically kills people within 8 to 16 months ( and that is if you have chemotherapy ).
Regardless of how much of a **** you are being, I honestly hope that nobody you know will ever die of this, however that's unlikely, considering its usually spreads from bowel cancer which is one of the most common cancers which is usually symptomless until its far too late, and its spread to the liver, lungs and lymph nodes.
ok, getting off my high horse. but I just think this is a matter not to be light-heartened and jokey about, whatever you may think Gary_M.
BoardinBob - MemberShe isnt any more deserving, but are you saying you couldnt care less about anyone's fate in these circumstances? Nice.....:s
Nah not like that. It did sound a bit harsh but why isn't there a story on the front of the newspaper about every cancer victim? Hello and OK readers will wring their hands in and outpouring of grief wailing "wont someone think of the children".
I don't wish her any ill even though she's a despicable no mark but her plight deserves no more attention than anyone elses.
Now you put it like that I'm totally with you!
I said the same about Princess Diana. No more important than anyone else.
Sorry, I believe the implication was death by cancer š
[i]25 posts in 4 minutes... This could be my fastest century ever![/i]
I wouldn't bet on it.
I can't believe how gullible some people are.
No what he is saying richc, is that he may not believe she even has it, not that she has it and he thinks she will make a full recovery.
I know what your trying to say sniglrtrack. She isn't my cup of tea either and she "appears" to have pulled the odd stunt in the past to help her live off her fame (what ever that means).
But as somebody who has had a couple of rounds with the big C (me 2 - BigC 0), I know what it feels like (kind of cos its different for every one) to be the person fighting this thing. I think you are only digging a very deep whole for yourself by having a go before we know whats going on. Even if you are rightly pionting a few things about the involment of Max Cliford.
If she is this ill and she could easily be, good luck to her and her family. If its a stunt, well I think its unlikely as once found out (and she would be, because there are to many real experts out there) she would be ridiculed forever. We'll see. I hope your wrong though, mate.
And why pick on Robert Mugabe. As a leader of a country he his doing the job in the fine tradition.
if Jade dying of cancer, encourages people to go to their doctor to get lumps etc checked out, and thus enabling cancers to get detected earlier when the success rates at curing people is much much higher then I don't see a problem of it being on the front page of every newspaper.
Regardless of how much of a **** you are being, I honestly hope that nobody you know will ever die of this.
Before you go firing expletives at me richc, i have lost family and friends to cancer, we buried a friend of mine at 50 years old 3 weeks ago and I have another friend who's been given weeks to live.
There time has come sooner than it should have, but at least they've faced it with dignity unlike that publicity seeking parasite.
Okay so lets say its a stunt, if its not then Jade you have my apologies and I really hope things work out, miracle cure is found and she gets better. What 'experts' are going to get involved to say it must all be a lie, do you think Jade Goody is on many medical experts radar.
Before you go firing expletives at me richc, i have lost family and friends to cancer, we buried a friend of mine at 50 years old 3 weeks ago and I have another friend who's been given weeks to live.
So then Snigletrack, does dancing on someone's grave as its being dug make you feel better?
johnikgriff
I think you are only digging a very deep whole for yourself by having a go before we know whats going on. Even if you are rightly pionting a few things about the involment of Max Cliford.
Never dug a deep 'whole' before, but I'm not saying she's a charlatan, I'm simply asking if I'm the only one that views the 'whole' story as a little suspect.
Snigle
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richc
So then Snigletrack, does dancing on someone's grave as its being dug make you feel better?
What a tit.
Snigle
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You didn't answer the question? does gloating over another persons demise make you feel better about yourself?
Do you know what 'gloat' means?
He's not gloating richc and you are blowing this totally out of proportion. Read the original post and stop being such an arse.
Well said Gary.
Snigle
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Yep reckon I do Snigle, do you?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/gloat
gloat (gl?t) Pronunciation Key
intr.v. gloatĀ·ed, gloatĀ·ing, gloats
To feel or express great, often malicious, pleasure or self-satisfaction: Don't gloat over your rival's misfortune.
n.
1. The act of gloating.
2. A feeling of great, often malicious, pleasure or self-satisfaction.
Obviously very confident in your understanding if you feel it necessary to look it up!
Being frank and honest about ones own opinions isn't the same as gloating, you fool. Now go and look up 'fool' on your Google.
Snigle
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stupid as well as obnoxious, nice combination and I see you are one of those people who doesn't let the facts get in the way when forming an opinion
I'm a lot of things, fool: obnoxious, perhaps. But I'm certainly not stupid. Maybe you ought to Google that word as well.
Snigle
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Here we go again. Same poster, same posts, slightly different target (previous ones have included disabled people, the unemployed, and anyone unfortunate enough to be killed by a road accident and commemorated by some flowers at the scene).
Is there an internet forum equivalent of chemotherapy? And can we test it on Snigletrack/AdamG?
You obviously need to change your name Mr A. That's a misrepresentation that is.
Snigle
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I am reluctant to post in this minefield but here are my thoughts:
I hope she makes a full recovery, I know it is a terrible disease and would wish it upon no-one at all, ever.
I also wish that she would stop being held up as a celebrity - a position she has reached as a result of being so unfathomably stupid in the Big Brother house.
I repeat my first wish.
ooooooh what an inflamatory post......
yes jade was an arse, and really annoyed lots of people, but she managed to make an awful lot of money doing it (even if she was maybe manipulated and used by big brother max clifford etc).
it seems to me that she acomplished this by putting herself in the press, and those annoying womens mags as much as she possibly could.
either way she is only doing this for cash, and fair play to her.
if she is dying then that is horrible, and certainly no one deserves that.
if she is just on the make and this is all a publicity stunt, then i say fairplay. she is taking a massive risk and her life will be over if she gets caught. her risk, she is not hurting anyone is she?
Secondary cancer does not generally make for a good prognosis.
FWIW i think its very sad. ive no doubt at all theres no conspiracy, even tho max cliffords involved, and is indeed a pr*ck. tbh, im surprised anyone even considers that its a con.
but i feel really sorry for the poor lass. hasnt been blessed with either brains or looks, and now this.
and no, she's no more deserving of sympathy than the many others that suffer from cancer too, but as has been pointed out already, shes a *cough* 'celeb' so its obvious people are interested in the story.
oh is op the floral tribute geezer?
its all a windup then
snigletrack!!!!
I don't believe she is racist. I believe she made an unintelligent comment but I do not blame her.
No-one deserves cancer. My best friend died virtually a year ago to this day. I'm saddened by your thought out loud.
I hope it's not a con, I don't think even she would be that manupulitive or stupid and hope she makes a recovery, as said, not many people recover from secondary cancers.
I personally don't have any opinion on her either way (apart from her being a not very clever munter)how she ever made the amount of money that she has from just being thick on telly totally mystifies me, what I don't like is everything that she stands for, the whole idea of celebrity is absolute bollocks and lots of people actually buy into it, something I will never understand and leeches like clifford seem more than ready to exploit it. .
If it is a con she wants stringing up for it.
If it's not and it helps raise the profile of this ilness she might have actually done something useful in her life.
why isn't there a story on the front of the newspaper about every cancer victim?
Because they're not already in the papers??
I feel sorry for her, and her kids.
timdrayton
oh is op the floral tribute geezer?its all a windup then
Not a wind up at all Tim. I'm just asking a straightforward question: Is anyone else a little suspicious about this, bearing in mind who Jade Goody is, and the fact that PR guru Max Clifford is involved?
Maybe I'm unusual, but if I was looking down the barrel of an untimely death, the furthest thing from my mind would be whether or not the 'event' was being milked for the largest slice of PR collateral possible. I'd be wanting privacy with my family and perhaps solitude to deal with things in my own mind.
Hawking your story round every tabloid and TV guide going is about as crass and undignified as one could possibly be and her handling of this situation - whether it's completely genuine or hyped up for PR purposes - has only diminished my opinion of Miss Goody.
If people took the time to think about my question rather than adopting this hoity-toity "how very dare he" attitude, they might realise that they too have some very mixed feelings about Jade Goody.
Snigle
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I don't care about the story. Another non-story being reported only 'cos she's a "celeb".
Snigletrack - this time I think you are totally wrong and overly cynical.
Whilst I dislike Max Clifford's business the one thing I would think he will never pull a stunt about is cancer. The reasons being his own wife died of lung cancer 5 years ago and he is a patron of the Royal Marsden Hospital - the leading cancer treatment hospital in the UK. I don't know what you mean by "doyen of oncology" but he may well be reasonably knowledgable on the subject of cancer.
I hope she sees out her final days happy and painfree š
I don't have an opinion either way TBH on her.
Snigletrack - this time I think you are totally wrong
To be wrong, I would have had to stated an opinion one way or another. I haven't, merely asked if I'm the only one who views the whole situation with a bit of suspicion.
"Doyen of oncology" should be relatively self explanitory, there was an air of sarcasm that you may not have picked up on. Hope this helps.
Snigle
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I've held back until now.
Call me cynical, but do all these pictures of her in the papers with no hair get there by chance? No of course not. I'll bet she gets paid for it too!
It seems every aspect of her life is stage managed, even her possible demise. That is the really vile part, profiting out of your own demise?
She's not the first, she wont be the last.
Its horrible for anyone to go through the thought that each day is a day much nearer to death. I saw my own father go through it at 51.
But does it really need to be shoved down our throats each day?
Dignity clearly is not a word in her vocabulary.
If it was such a fake like you seem to believe then it would bury his career once it was found out, however the reason I don't believe it is that I have greater intelligence than an amoeba to even consider such a thing.
[i]But does it really need to be shoved down our throats each day?[/i]
Different question all together that.
Is this any different to some sob story appearing on this forum every time a cyclist gets killed on the roads? Thousands of people die on the roads every year, yet some folk seem to want to make a big deal out of it just coz it's another cyclist. Same goes here. Of course "ordinary" people contract and die of cancer, but individually they're not newsworthy. people know who Jade Goody is.
Personally, she's never done me any harm, so I can't understand all this anti-Jade sentiment. Maybe lots of folk are just jealous that she's made so much from so little? She now seems to be doing what any parent would want to do in these circumstances: spend quality time with their kids and do whatever is necessary to make sure they're provided for once she's gone.
When she first received the news of the cancer, she was involved in another BB (India?) and even then, there were lots of people suggesting it was just a big hoax.
IF she is hawking her story about, so what?
It's the only way she's got of making any cash, maybe she's just doing the only thing she knows to provide some money for her family and kids after she's gone.
Maybe it's all a scam.
gullible or cynical, take your pick of the above options.
I'll choose to be gullible, wish her good luck and as much cash as she can make.
She's a looser whatever turns out to be the truth, and so gets my sympathy.
Maybe you ought to take some of your own advice and google the word "doyen" because I don't think it means what you think it does.
she's earning this money for her kids and i don't blame her.
it's a really sad situation and i hope she manages to spend as much quality pain free time with her boys as she can.
A doyen is a senior figure, an authority. What's the problem with that?
Although she doesn't sound like a nice person, I'm far more inclined to have a pop at the newspaper journalists / editors. They don't have to publish every second of a celebs life, but they do. Sadly it sells, because this country is full of morons š
On the other her face on the front cover keeps cancer awareness in the limelight which may be a good thing. Seems like a few of us have been affected by cancer either personally, or know someone that has. That's all the awareness I needed. It shocks and scares you to know how horrible this disease is first hand.
Some on the comments on this thread are just evil.