Is a cottage pie, a pie?

Bottom crust
Top crust
Two crust

All pies

Cream pie being the obvious acception 😯

Stoner’s Pie Law still stands – if it is called a pie, it is a pie.

You could not be more wrong. You could try to be more wrong, but you would not be successful.

Bottom crust
Top crust
Two crust

Flan.
Stew.
Pie.

I would also argue that cottage/shepherd’s pie is what kicked off this trend for serving perfectly good food in towers. They’re essentially a nice potato and mince dinner stacked up and made somehow less tasty. While I’ll accept their name for the sake of clarity they aren’t pies to me.

One assumes that a decent pie could be fashioned from a cottage pie in the style of the butter pie. One simply needs to encase said Cottage Pie into a Pie thus making it a pie?

The, probably not very tasty, answer to your query lesgrandepotato.

ransos – Member
It’s potatoes on mince. Not a pie.
I agree, but on the other hand, everyone knows exactly what is meant by fish, shepherd’s or cottage pie.

Apart from Americans – who make shepherds pie with beef. Not shepherds

Sorry, I appear to have opened up some old wounds with this one. My own personal crisis has been averted though; came home to find wife has bought a proper steak pie.

Apart from Americans – who make shepherds pie with beef. Not shepherds

WTAF?

came home to find wife has bought a proper steak pie.

A proper steak pie?

……..or some pastry encased imposter?

Given the name of the OP, I think we’re being trolled.

MrPottatoHead – Member

Are you saying mrpotatohead is a cottager?

joshvegas – Member

Are you saying mrpotatohead is a cottager?

Cottager pie requires some combination of mince and pork.

Cottager pie requires some combination of mince and pork.

Pork is best with a bit of jelly, don’t you think?

if

you wish to call something a pie, a pie it shall be

Works for one of the coffee shops in Reading that advertise sausage rolls as sausage pies.

Twots :/

Bloody Southerners.

I bet they’re actually labelled artisan sausage pies, aren’t they?

Well it is fully encased.

Post truth pies or alternative representation of pies?

Having just downed a rather delicious yesterday’s leftover ‘pie’, I couldn’t care less, it tasted wonderful.

A true pie can be lifted from its container and thrown, bursting on impact, with no risk to the thrower. It therefore needs to be fully encased.

Fig 1. Pie

Fig 2. Clowns

As I said last time.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/oi-binners-what-have-you-started/page/4#post-7565463

I think we can make an exception to names of pies that aren’t defined by their ingredients. That is to say, a pork pie is a pie with pork in it. A shepherd’s pie does not contain shepherds, and similarly a cottage pie generally does not contain cottages.

Ie, “shepherd’s pie” is the full name of a dish that is not actually a pie, in the same way that an Eccles cake is not actually a cake. See also, beef wellington.

And before that, http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/pie-definitions-pleae/page/2#post-5600301

It’s really quite simple.

Can you pick it up in your hands and carry it to your mouth? If you cannot (for any reason other than “it’s a really big one”) then it is not, by any sensible definition, a pie. A pie is self-sustaining and stands alone, proud. It does not require third party support from some party-sized casserole dish.

“Cottage pie” and their ilk get special exemption from this definition as they are not “pies” of a “cottage” type, but rather “cottage pie” is its full name. It does not, after all, actually contain cottages(*). It’s a bit like the “slow worm” which, despite its name, is not actually a worm (or a snake either for that matter).

(* – Except when served in East Lancashire football stadiums, perhaps)

if it is called a pie, it is a pie.

this, cooked in a pie dish? It’s a pie.

On the basis that national pie day was created by the American pie council as a marketing tool, I’m out.

National pie day should celebrate the day a war was started over a lattice top, or something

National pie day should celebrate the day a war was started over a lattice top, or something

It should celebrate when a war was ended surely, and the soup-with-a-lid brigade have been summarily dealt with.

Possibly, hence the ‘or something’ 😉

I thought that our American colleagues celebrated Pi day on 14th March.

Anyway

Cottage pie is a pie in exactly the same sense that a Bombay Duck flies.

I think we’re glossing over the fact that it’s only National Pie Day in America, with good ol’ British Pie Week being March 6th-12th.

They get a day, we get a week.

Makes you think.

Awesome. I get pie another day, for a week.

?

I think we’re glossing over the fact that it’s only National Pie Day in America, with good ol’ British Pie Week being March 6th-12th.

World Series Pie Day.

Sadly being forced to watch Our in the Sky

IMHO meat based pie =full pastry jacket
except cottage and shepherd mash lid is acceptable
fruit based pies top and bottom only required therefore the little Mr Kipling abominations should only be given in emergencies 👿

Stoner’s Pie Law still stands – if it is called a pie, it is a pie

You can call a duck a golden eagle, but you’ll still have something that paddles and quacks, and that isn’t a magnificent killing machine!
PS, loving the perchypanther pie propaganda; nicely alliterative, too. 😀

I’ve always laboured under the apprehension that ‘Shepherds Pie and ‘Cottage Pie’ were fashioned in olden times by folk without the means and resources to make actual pies and are therefore hollow facsimiles of the true, self supporting, fully encased real article, in the same way that a Vauxhall Corsa with dropped suspension and a body kit is not a Porshe Carrera 911.

I just don’t understand how people can be so unaware of the true nature of these things.

I blame marketing.

Boi! Ah bin making pie! Extra whet! Just like pretty lil’binners likes it.

Oh look ‘ere sugar! there aint no pastry on its ass!
Dont care. Still a pie!

IHN – Member
Yeah they know that a fish pie is revolting.

You’re doing it wrong then. Fish pie or fisherman’s pie – flippin lovely.