iPads – WHY are they taking over the world?

It’s heavy. REALLY heavy, and the sharp edges hurt if you try to hold in it one hand.

Prop it up for porn.
(particularly if you’re going to be at it for a while)

So far this is the only useful post on this thread

It’s funny isn’t it. As I keep mentioning my Daughter has worked how to load photos from her iPod, PC and the family iPad she has also worked out that once set up that it does itself. No need for iTunes or this dinosaur age of drag and drop no it just streams.

Because the rest of the PC world thought it was a gimmick
and the PC world got it wrong yet again and also reported
that allegedly that one manufacture making Apple products had
been accused of copying ?

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It’s funny isn’t it. As I keep mentioning my Daughter has worked how to load photos from her iPod, PC and the family iPad she has also worked out that once set up that it does itself. No need for iTunes or this dinosaur age of drag and drop no it just streams.

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Another reason Apple products are worth the money
Also none of the products come in Plastic 😉

surely there’s software available that will enable your print server to act as an AirPrint server as well?

Tried that. Didn’t work. In fact it was worse than didn’t work – not only could the iPad still not see a print server, neither could my Windows laptop any more.

Can’t help you any more than that as I took the smart option and moved away from Windows years ago

Ah, in that case how do I print from my iPad to a printer connected to a box on which it is possible to install Windows (I think I could quite happily move away from Windows on there, or at least dual boot)?

As to the multiple attachments thing – no need. Just zip all your files together and send as one attachment.

I’ll add that to the list of workarounds for a basic failing that other people came up with when I asked before.

I like my ipad. I’m sure others like their other tablets.
And they all lived happily ever after.

That was just an illustration of a point, nothing more. You know what he meant.

Do we? He came up with an inaccurate analogy – got a better one?

Ok looks like this has run its course or derailed onto the usual vs track.

But personally I don’t understand the popularity of them. Couldnt give one regards who prefers what it’s there choice.

Where many devices will use standard connections be it physically or software based, Apple do the opposite and limiting possibilities.
Not to mention over priced accessories.
This is why they are at the bottom of my list.
I think Apple is for suckers

I’m done here now too many people getting upset.
And talking of suckers there is a fair few here who breath smell suspiciously of Mr Jobs’ penis.
Night 🙂

aracer unsure of your problem but go into system preferences and delete your printer.
then come out and go back in and search for the printer then click ok then that should be it.

If not then make an appointment to see one of there in store Genius persons
as something isn’t right.

There is an Ipad4, didnt we just get number3?

I would only be interested in one for facetime as my family cant seem to turn skype on.

Damn this android phone, it just doubled posted.

Are there any better alternatives?

Aha! Figured out why I struggled to move the icons. The touch screen has two huge dead spots on the left and right sides, so as I dragged the icon my finger entered a dead zone and it snapped back to it’s original position.

Does this happen to anyone else or have I managed to pick up a dodgy one? Or have I just got non-conductive fingers?

Easy way to check is to install a drawing app and swipe your fingers around on the screen a bit – you can see the dead areas beautifully.

aracer: if your printer is not AirPrint compatible have you tried the Smart Office 2 app ?
I print from that fairly often to my ancient non-AirPrint network laser printer.

As for multiple attachments: for the default email app then it is really down to the app you are attaching them from to provide that (e.g. you can attach multiple photos from the Photos app easily enough, or multiple files/docs/pdfs from GoodReader)

If you need it more generally then use a different email app like “Group Email”

Does this happen to anyone else or have I managed to pick up a dodgy one? Or have I just got non-conductive fingers?

Sounds like a duffer. No dead areas on mine. Go see a Genius and they’ll give you a new one for free.

Ah, in that case how do I print from my iPad to a printer connected to a box on which it is possible to install Windows (I think I could quite happily move away from Windows on there, or at least dual boot)?

if you were using a Mac I’d say use Printopia as it works great. As for Linux/windows, a quick google reveals many people who’ve done it successfully so I’ve no idea why you can’t manage it, sorry.

Does this happen to anyone else or have I managed to pick up a dodgy one? Or have I just got non-conductive fingers?

sounds like you have a duff one if its always like that! This has happened to me a couple of times, always solved with a reboot though.

And talking of suckers there is a fair few here who breath smell suspiciously of Mr Jobs’ penis.

are you 12?

@countzero – the tone of your posts are like that of a deprived old fishwife.

Not had any luck getting my printer work either. Luckily my files are shared by streaming so my other devices print them off instead.

As said though tablet, smart phones are bloody amazing technology.

Now it’s gone completely. Will swap next time I’m in work.

After the rant in the first post, my whining about bugs is related to the fact that it was intermittently missing my touch.

Printing use Google cloud print
Attachment just add one at a time
Photo sharing use dropbox or just drag the specific folder over

Oops they were android solutions

As for Linux/windows, a quick google reveals many people who’ve done it successfully

Indeed. Though there appear to be an equal number who’ve failed like me, and it’s certainly far from straightforward even if you can get it to work. I’ve tried multiple times with different methods. I certainly don’t get these sort of difficulties when trying to interoperate between Windows and Linux systems. I’m certainly no computer numpty as I do that with systems far more complex than most people here deal with – and nor am I particularly a Windows fan – it’s just that ISTM some Apple stuff is designed deliberately to make it difficult to interoperate with other things.

GrahamS – not really keen on spending that much to fix something which should “just work”. In any case presumably that would just involve more irritation as I’d have to open that to print rather than being able to do it natively. Maybe I’m asking too much to expect it to be as easy as getting a printer to work from Windows or Linux?

go into system preferences and delete your printer.
then come out and go back in and search for the printer then click ok then that should be it.

On the Windows box after I’ve installed Airplay stuff? That will fix both problems (of the iPad still not seeing the printer, and no longer being able to print from Windows over the network)? I’ll give it a go – thanks for the tip, and a gold star to grantway if it works.

Oops they were android solutions

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Maybe I’m asking too much to expect it to be as easy as getting a printer to work from Windows or Linux?

well, yes, since there aren’t (and probably never will be) iOS drivers for your printer. It’s easy from Windows/Linux as you can just install the appropriate driver. It’s really the failing of your os (XP in this case) which won’t let you install an AirPrint server, for some reason.

It’s really the failing of your os (XP in this case) which won’t let you install an AirPrint server, for some reason.

Not the failure of “there aren’t (and probably never will be) iOS drivers for your printer” then? Silly me, why didn’t I realise it was Windows which is the problem?

GrahamS – not really keen on spending that much to fix something which should “just work”. In any case presumably that would just involve more irritation as I’d have to open that to print rather than being able to do it natively. Maybe I’m asking too much to expect it to be as easy as getting a printer to work from Windows or Linux?

Yep fair enough. I didn’t think £7 was too much to add some seriously useful functionality (bearing in mind it is a full ms-compatible office suite). But YMMV.

The native AirPrint is normal Apple walled-garden stuff really. It “just works” but you have to stay within the confines of the garden, in this case by buying an AirPrint-enabled printer or setting up an AirPrint server.

Bear in mind that the single biggest cause of problems and crashes on Windows (and probably Linux too) is device drivers. All that flexibility comes at a cost.

It is two different approaches. Apple try to keep you to a sub-set of tested and approved stuff that will “just work” tm
Whereas Windows et al give you maximum flexibility at the cost of some faffery and the odd blue screen.

Once you see that is what is going on it explains the rationale behind some of Apple’s odd decisions.

There’s absolutely no point in having hundreds of different printer drivers bloating and/or destabilising iOS because there’s a simple system which works fine: AirPrint. I’m sorry, I don’t know what you’ve done to your computer to stop it from working. The only thing I can suggest is a complete re-install from scratch. Or buy a cheap s/h Mac mini to use as a print server.

Bear in mind that the single biggest cause of problems and crashes on Windows (and probably Linux too) is device drivers. All that flexibility comes at a cost.

In the old days maybe. Haven’t had a problem with that for years, and never with a printer driver.

Apple try to keep you to a sub-set of tested and approved stuff that will “just work” tm
Whereas Windows et al give you maximum flexibility at the cost of some faffery

irony alert!

It’s funny isn’t it. As I keep mentioning my Daughter has worked how to load photos from her iPod, PC and the family iPad she has also worked out that once set up that it does itself. No need for iTunes or this dinosaur age of drag and drop no it just streams.

My daughter can manage recording films on her Blackberry, editing them on Windows 7, and viewing the uploaded result on Android… Does she win a prize or something?

It is two different approaches. Apple try to keep you to a sub-set of tested and approved stuff that will “just work” tm

You’re still stuck with OSX, though. Bleugh. As you say it just (about) works.

In the old days maybe. Haven’t had a problem with that for years, and never with a printer driver.

I must be in the old days then because Windows still dies fairly often on me.

(Had to laugh the other week when I saw one of the screens advertising Surface had blue screened 🙂 )

aracer go onto Apple uk and then go to support
and select the I Pad and below you will see printing on air print
select it and there is an community base chat on different printers.

Apple IPad Air Print]

Never thought I’d say this…

Windows 7 very stable,

New printer plugged in no CD needed just found a driver and worked.
Not seen a blue screen in years.

You have to admit it’s easier making software that only needs to run on 20 (very slightly) different sets of hardware. However as people come in all shapes and sizes with different needs and requirements I’m glad I have choice in what I use.

My daughter can manage recording films on her Blackberry, editing them on Windows 7, and viewing the uploaded result on Android… Does she win a prize or something?

No just proves how simple technology is which is my point. So how programmers and PC builders can’t work it out is amazing.

Yeah Windows 7 is great too but still prefer my Mac over it.

Apple Air Print

Typical Apple – won’t even let you make a link which works 🙄

This seems to work though:
https://discussions.apple.com/community/ipad/using_ipad?view=discussions#/?tagSet=1194

Works fine for me! (On iPad)

Windows 7 very stable,

New printer plugged in no CD needed just found a driver and worked.
Not seen a blue screen in years.

That was my experience with XP too. Never had any major problems.

I have a macbook now. It’s alright but you know what? It’s a computer and computers are beyond complex inside. Really. Only a relatively small number of people really know what is going on inside them. Sometimes it doesn’t work. Just like any computer. Anyone who says macs never go wrong is lying. They have their faults, they’ll never be perfect.

The problem is that people expect something as massively complex as a computer running a wide variety of operating systems and applications, is always going to sit there never going wrong. The problem started when normal people (as opposed to experts), started thinking they understand computers.

If your bottom goes wrong do you ask your mate or a doctor?

If your computer goes wrong do you ask your mate or a computer professional?

*that’s* what is wrong with computers today.

No just proves how simple technology is which is my point. So how programmers and PC builders can’t work it out is amazing.

pmsl

If your bottom goes wrong do you ask your mate or a doctor?

Normal procedure is to ask on here.

I assume you get as frustrated at the dodgy advice on healthcare given out here as I do about the dodgy computer advice… Of course, people are unlikely to die if I get it wrong…here anyway.

as someone pointed out years ago,
“The main problem with computers is they do exactly what the user tells them to do”

Whats an i pad?

I’m still amazed at how uppity people get about the choice of tools other people choose to use.

Do you have slanging matches about which brand of screwdriver/toaster/pen/dvd player you use as well or this only reserved for computers and phones?

FWIW, there’s Android, OSX, Windows, Linux and BSD machines in this house all happily co-existing without too much bother.

to coin a phrase ‘Why can’t we all just get along?’