[Closed] iDaves Diet Plan Members...

Yeah, I'm going to give it a go, just through curiosity.

I'll struggle on breakfast, as I won't eat eggs, so still scratching my head about that one.

Lunch was soup I made, I make a batch up and it sees me through lunchtimes during the week.

Stir-fry or salad tonight, baring in mind the does-n-don'ts, as mentioned by iDave.

I'm off now to find more meal suggestions which will comply with the guidelines.

I hope we enjoy it, cos if not, we'll never incorporate it into our daily diets.

🙂

3 weeks ?, PAH !, easy, one day done already 😉

S

Nice Solo, whats in your soup? I'd also be interested in what goes in your stir fry! 😀

Shame about the eggs as I think thats whats going to make it for me
good idea about the soup for the week, I'll do that tonight 😀

I start Thursday after I have been shopping tomorrow. Will weigh in before work.

I don't eat meat or fish, so am hoping veggie alternatives will be OK. I guess soya milk is OK as it is non dairy, so can have a protein shake after the gym.

Salad is OK (apart from tomato)??

i fancy this, can someone tell me about it please.

emailed you mate 🙂

What salad are you thinking of Barry but yes more than likely 🙂

I want to know if salad dressings are ok or is there a chance theres a fair bit of stuff in them thats not allowed?

my salads are usually: lettuce, onion, cucumber, [s]tomato[/s], radish, gherkin, pickled onion, beetroot, chilli, pepper...with something quorn. All cut up very small and smothered in balsamic vinegar.

A good soup is leek, onion, carrot, chilli & swede...but I guess swede is off the menu?

I reckon steer clear of the salad dressings...

I'm thinking about it...

I *think* this may just scrape through the rules - surely (a little) lemon juice doesn't count as fruit?

http://www.nigella.com/recipe/recipe_detail.aspx?rid=132

yeah salad sounds fine (well i hope so as i bought all those ingredients :D)

totally forgot quorn exists! good shout

I thought you were thinking Gin and Tonics Mr Blond! is Gin allowed and Vodka? or are they too sugary or contain carbs? I'm a bit of an idiot when it comes to this so im only eating what gets verified first if in doubt 😀

God those steaks look good and the white bean mash sounds awesome!

Does anyone know if pearl barley is ok?

yum

Soup varies around the following:

2Ltr pan, filled to about 2/3 with veg, mostly onion but including some chopped leak, carrot, garlic, garden peas, etc, you get the idea.

Very little olive oil, like 10-15ml on a low heat to gently fry the onions and other veg till it starts to soften. Important not to use much oil cos if you do, it will seperate and float to the top when the soup is cool and in its seperate containers. Its Ok, but doesn't look good, so minimum oil.

So once the veg is slightly softened I add about 1.5Ltr of water, leave about an inch from the top edge of your pan, as you will bring it to a light simmer.

After this, I add 2 or 3 Kalo, very low salt, veg stock cubes.

I sometimes add a tuna steak, or hadock fillet, chopped, and usually add fresh chilli, finely chopped.

Bring to a simmer, you judge when its had enough, but usually no longer than 10-15 mins, just keep an eye on it and make sure the meat, if you add any, is cooked through, etc.

When its still warm, but not hot, I decant the soup into lock-n-lock 800ml containers as they fit in my bag for work. They're not full, I just dish it out equally and I guess I'm having about 500ml of soup for lunch. By the time they're cooled a slight vacuum has formed inside.
I stand them in the fridge and grab one on my way out the door to work in the AM.

I think thats the soup.

Stir fry:
About one onion per person (depending on the size of the onion), chopped, one carrot, half a pepper per person, a few stalks of celery, all finely sliced or chopped, oh, and some chilli, if thats your thing. Maybe some garden peas too.

Again, only about 15ml of olive oil, gently fry the veggies

I usually add a fillet of haddock, or a few rashers of bacon, chopped, bacon has its fat removed.

Cook veggies and meat together, I add a dash of white balsamic vinegar and some fresh ground black pepper, then once I can see the meat is cooked through, I add the beansprouts and wait until they've reached my preferred state of cooked.

All this is done on a relatively low heat. Using hi heat just rushes things and means I'm more likely to burn stuff 😛

Serve in a bowl, dress with a few splashes of soya-source, low salt, of course.

I hope this is Ok by iDave...

I think this complies with what iDave has described.

I'm going to resarch more recipes using pulses/legumes.

I can source wild venison and other game meats, but I prefer fish.

For me, following iDave's advice will mainly mean cutting out the white carbs, bread, pasta, potatoes.
I haven't eaten much fruit recently, just got out of the habit of doing so, so thats not an issue.
I do really like cheese, but its not a global-killer for me not to eat it, so no dairy should be Ok with me too.

I'm not anticipating that this will be difficult, and as iDave points out, there is still one day in 7 when you can eat what you want.
Cool !.

Lets see how this works out 🙂

S.

EDIT: Wow !, quite a few posts since I started mine.
Yeah, no tomato I reckon cos it is a fruit.

[i]I want to know if salad dressings are ok or is there a chance theres a fair bit of stuff in them thats not allowed? [/i]

Make your own, do it with jam jars, then you can store in the fridge for a few days. Things like olive oil, white wine vinegar, black pepper, dijon mustard. Quick and simple, if it complies......

S

great sounding recipes, whenever i do soup i usually grill the veg in the oven and then pulp but i like the idea of yours as its a lot quicker, also the fish in it is a great idea 😀

is natural honey allowed do you think? as i usually do parsnips in that 😀

Solo I think you've single handedly won this over for me 😀 cheers

Another one I think is 'legal':

http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/main-ingredient/pulses/white-bean-and-tuna-fish-salad-with-lemon-pepper-dressing.html

(and is good - not tried the Nigella)

Alexx.

Its your thread mate, and a good one too 😉

Sadly, I think Honey will ne a no-no, on the basis of its sugariness, but I'm guessing iDave would be able to advise. However, don't forget the one day a week, anything goes.

I reckon it'll be a Saturday for me, and will probably include home made bombay potatoes...

No doubt theres some good ideas forming here, I hope iDave reads this and gives us the odd nudge when it looks as if we might be straying from the suggestions. Just a nudge though as half the fun is looking for/making new stuff to try, enjoy, and hopefully see positive results.
😉

Right, the phone is going and I've got to make my dinner now, so will check back tomorrow for what others have contributed.

Cheers.

S

Mr B.

Yes, that recipe looks good.

If anyone is wondering about using lemon juice in dressings, try substituting it with white wine vinegar.

Most dressings I've made, I have just used either with no detrimental effects on flavour.

S

hey,

can anyone email me the stuff that idave sent out. This looks interesting and I fancy giving it go

think i sent out about 40+

keep the faith people

Hiya - did ask on the other thread but can someone mail it to me too please ta! ruthdotandyatbtinternetdotcom. ta 😀

request to have it sent to me would have gone better if I'd included my email address!!!!!! niallmb at gmail dot com

thanks

106.8 on Saturday morning
104.4 Monday morning then 103.8 on Monday morning after THE most enormous dump 😀
Wishing Norris McWhirter had been there!
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Always feeling full and loving nuts, not missing milk or sugar much either but would love some fruit.

Few questions about what is ok to eat and what is not.

Barley, is it OK if I put it in veg soup
Couscous, is that OK or not

im going to be trying this in 3 weeks time!!

no point trying now as im stuck in hotels for the next 3 weeks!!

If anyone wants a plan it'd be easier to email me and I'll forward it on
Haworth.alex at gmail com

Just had a chicken breast with garlic chilli onion red pepper lentils and asp

Any ideas to make a source for the next time I have it? It was nice but a source would have been nicer 🙂

Yeah, no tomato I reckon cos it is a fruit.

and that would be evil ?

Sob kindly **** off, either try it, follow it with useful advice or stop whining

try tahini sauce

50:50 tahini/water, garlic, paprika, splat of lemon juice

works with lots of stuff

Yep I'm in, biggest chap here( 130kgs) I'll reckon so hope to see it drop off!! breakfast the hardest one for me still well up for it.

Sob kindly **** off

make me big boy 🙂 And while you're at it, explain why fruit might be bad...

Couscous, is that OK or not

Not ok, its similar to pasta (flour).

renton:
im going to be trying this in 3 weeks time!!

no point trying now as im stuck in hotels for the next 3 weeks!!

I will be starting similar time. Have a couple of festivals, birthdays and WC in July so would be a quite hard to try now.

....or i could just MTFU and start next monday.

Oats are fine, so porridge as a preride breakfast for me.

Fish is good too apparently.

I'm the same bottling it before I've started. As iDave said it should be done properly, so I wan't to commit to it when I have a chance, and I'm away a lot in the next week, and a couple of peoples parties/pub trips which would make the not drinking calories hard! Unfortunately they're all in the next 2 weeks which means I can't have just 1 day a week off boozing. Actually, can I take a years worth of days off in one go? 😉

this sounds interesting where can i get some info from?

i'm going to give it a go, currently 6' and 240 lbs some
looking forward to a 3 week challenge

don't go for porridge every morning though, it's too weighted towards carbs alone. For a big pre-ride breakfast I'd have porridge then bacon and poached eggs

Day two and not missing the starchy carbs as much as I thought 😀

Am puzzling about 'mid-ride refuelling', I guess an oat based snack would be OK ???

Mainly eating bean based salads, fish and roast veggies, eggs for brekky don't work for me - maybe if I get up a bit earlier and give them time to settle before the ride to work......

When u say porridge do you mean oats and water? Thx

I started yesterday, grilled chicken coated in jamaican jerk spices with grilled asparagus, spinach and mushrooms, tonight was lean steak with carrots, green beans and asparagus. Lunches have been salads with ham and my breakfast was a couple of eggs with spinach and chorizo. So far so good but miss sugar in my coffee.
I'm 5'11" and about 95 kilos, wondering though, what to eat before and during rides, I'm worried I'm just gonna fall over due to lack of something 🙂

[i]and that would be evil ?
[/i]

Hi SFB. As we all know, fruit isn't evil, it just doesn't fall into the list foods we are choosing to eat for the next three weeks.

I'm sure that if I don't choose my words carefully, I'll end up [i]debating[/i] fruit with you, and quite honestly, there was enough of that with TJ and Molgrips, on the other thread.

So please lets not hi-jack this thread into a debate about the goodness of fruit.

You are free to start your own threads 🙂

Here, I'm just seeing what ideas others are having and I'm just getting encouragement to incorporate this into my existing diet, which wasn't particularly bad, in the first place.

Theres been what I think are some good recipe suggestions, and I fully intend to make some of them to see if I like them.

Trying this presents me with a little challenge, and I will be learning to make new meals to add to what I already prepare.

I just can't see a down-side to trying this with a few people from here.
😉

iDave, thanks for the Tahini tip.
🙂

Cheers

Solo

I'm starting after I've been shopping Friday. I'm a bit of a beer monster and I love potatoes, pasta and bread. So it's quite a big step for me, but something needs to change, I've put on 2.5 stone over the last year.

Currently weigh 18st, and I reckon the not drinking beer will be what makes the weight fall off. Up until the end of last week I'd drink at least 3 660ml bottles of Peroni on average 5 times a week (did say I was a beer monster). Don't eat much in the way of processed crap, but I eat a lot of the starchy food stuffs that iDave's ruled out.

I'll weigh in Friday morning and again after the 1st week of the change.

Mr_K.

Yeap, I like a beer too. But I'll be saving that for the one day a week, when we can eat/drink what we want.

So, between now and Friday, you may have the chance to get some recipes together, so you know what you need to buy at the supermarket, or wherever.

Solo

Yep I shall cherish those days off with bowls of crunchy nut cornflakes for breakfast and beer for lunch and dinner. I'll make sure I'm awake for the whole 24hrs on that day.

omlette, grilled chicken breast & broad beans last night - followed by a road ride - no probs with digestion or energy & didnt feel hungry this am either - result 🙂 only 3 weeks to go.

The only thing that I found worked really well for weight loss was divorce, hope this is less painful & expensive, besides the current Mrs Jay is a keeper 🙂

I've emailed about 10 people with the plan so far so there's a lot of people looking with interest. why not sign up you guys?

for some more motivation....

Day 2
Woke up early this morning naturally feeling very awake, not the slightest bit hungry, I did feel a bit hungry last night but a glass of red sorted that 😀

Going to make another omelette since yesterdays was a success 😀

I said I wouldnt do a daily weigh in and I probably wont but...

Yesterday morning I was 12stone3 (unhydrated) I feel more hydrated this morning and weigh 12stone2

I'd be very happy losing at that pace everyday!

10mile road ride today, lets see how exercise fits into this diet!

Good Post Gee-Jay, off to a great start there.
😉

Holding off the hunger is always a consideration, whether your losing weight or not, ime.

This is why I chose soup for lunchtimes at work. Seems to stop me feeling hungry in the later afternoon, and so stops me snacking.

I had already started the soup for lunch at work thing, before all this, and it has worked really well for me.

S

Did we work out if pearl barley was evil? 😀

I fancy this also, where can I find the details? I cant find the original thread? Cheers

forwarded on to 5 more!

Alexxx.

Wow, thats quick 🙂

No, I don't know about pearl barley. Maybe until we have confirmation, best to [i]if in doubt, leave it out[/i].

After all, theres still a wide enough range of foods to choose from.
Just my take on it.

Same with Tea, again I'm not sure. I'd guess that without the milk and sugar, tea would be Ok, if you can drink your tea that way.

I've never been a tea or coffee drinker, so that part is easy for me, even [u]though coffee is Ok for this exercise[/u].

😀

S

😀 I'm not doing normal tea just mint and dont have milk in it anyway its more of a relaxing green tea stylie, its very nice you should try it, really refreshing 😀

I've soaked some lentils and chickpeas (and barley :() over night so will cook up a soupy storm with your recipe thanks 🙂

Al

Whats everyone using for energy when out on rides, both for drinking and eating. Started this on Monday and have been out for a 1 hour MTB ride and a 20 miler on the road bike, feel a little rough this morning and I'm just wondering if there are any suggestions.
Thanks for any help, good to have a few folk on board with this idea 🙂

dave said he'd have a pre ride eat of oats and water, a couple of poached eggs and bacon, that sounds like it'd do the trick

on the ride maybe take some nuts or precooked chicken or humus and just drink water?

[i]Im 23, 5ft11 and 12 stone 3 this morning[/i]

This is entirely normal, why are you dieting?

[i]10mile road ride today, lets see how exercise fits into this diet! [/i]

that's not exercise.

Alexxx.

Cool, I've only got legumes in tetra-packs at the moment, I already had Chickpeas and red kidney beans as I eat them each week.

However, since all this, I've read that soaked beans, etc, have more taste !, this is just getting better 🙂
So, I'll be preparing soaked beans over the weekend, once I've found what recipes I'm going to use them in.

I would like to point out, that I hardly ever add salt to anything I cook, infact I actively avoid doing so, unless its really needed.

ime, theres so much hidden salt in stuff, that theres little need to add more during the cooking process.
Hence going for the low salt veg stock cubes when making the soup.

Good stuff !
😉

S

nick - I've got about a stone of body fat that I want to lose.
10 mile road ride + 5 hours digging at my pumptrack and riding till late... thats exercise... and anyway, 10 miles is quite hard when 6 is a fair decent climb and your gunning it.

I'll do 2 40 miles this week just want to break in easy with the new food intake.

Solo - totally agree with salt, I never add it to anything, when using good ingredients its all sweet enough anyway, even fresh coffee tastes sweet compared to instant 😀

Solo, a pinch of salt into home made food isn't going to do you any harm, the 'hidden salt' is nearly always in packaged ready meals. There's nothing to fear from seasoning...

This looks interesting, please can you forward to me as well?

pigdogfreewheel (at) googlemail.com.

thanks!

while you're riding carbs are fine, but don't overdo it

i'm trying to stay out of this, but will wander along occasionally

tea, yeah fine, pref wthout the milk and sugar

this is about health as much as weightloss, and it's not an expensive way to eat.

processed food? WTF! [b]surely you know its mostly expensive or shit or both[/b]?

do something 21 times and it becomes a habit. if you don't like black coffee and you have 4 coffee's a day, 5 days approx and you'll drink black coffee......

[i]nick - I've got about a stone of body fat that I want to lose.[/i]

you know for sure it's a stone of fat? How do you know that after this diet when you've lost 14lbs, that it'll be that fat you've lost?

Stop being scared of salt...it's a mineral you need.

Day two for me too.
So far it has been a refreshing change. I got a bit complacent cooking the same type of dinners and snacks so having to re-think a bit has been favourable. I have has the occasional sweet/sugar craving but it's not too bad. As far as wight is concerned, I don't have any scales but think I am between 11.5 and 12 stone. I would rather be 11 to 11.5 so am going by sight and how clothes fit, as well as how I feel. Not scientific but I'd rather not be thinking too much about weight, calories or that kind of stuff.
I have been exercising ok. I did a 20k run without any problems, though I did get a little cramp after, which I presume was just that it was very hot, I'd not eaten much or planned to run that far, and I have had a change in what my body is used too.

Also for those of you who are struggling with what to have for brekkie, try a nice mixed salad. It is great for hydration, refreshing and is a good pick up alternative to fruit in the morning.

Good luck to all involved and break a leg.

Last night I had chicken fajitas without the fajita's so that was grilled checken with fajita spices and grilled peppers and onion, with some green leaf salad. It was very tasty.

For me lunches will be the big challenge but I'll cook up some batches of soup (sweetcorn and red pepper is nice) and make a big tub of salad with lots of grilled chicken in it. I reckon plenty of protein is the key to not feeling too hungry.

I might make a batch of beef jerky for snacks

Most of the rides I do, last no longer than 3 hours.

I only drink water during these rides and I never eat anything.

There may be the appres-ride pint, but that will usually be it.

I haven't formed a riding-eating habit, I stick to my 3 squares a day and ride when I can/want to.

So my plan is, for the next three weeks, I will still ride, there will be no after-ride beer, and if I'm hungry afterwards, then I'll have to sort out an acceptable snack when I get home.
😉

Theres no limit to the number of times I'm going to read the info sheet, I even have a copy on my mobile so I can remind myself of what is in, and what is not. No excuse for me now...

S
EDIT:
I'm not wanting to have a salt debate here.
I'm here for the encouragement and advice, giving and receiving 😉

Good to see the Tea question answered, thanks iDave, reckon a few people will be pleased.

also, i suggest you use the bathroom scales no more than once a week - there is a daily variation in what you might think of as your 'weight'

same time, same day once a week.

some of you will be shocked at the loss.

How do you know that after this diet when you've lost 14lbs, that it'll be that fat you've lost?

What's your point?

I've just sent at least another 10 emails out... whats that now near enough 80/100? people... and only about 5 so far have committed.. MTFU peoples

I'd like to give it a try to please.

sccooper1973 at googlemail.com

my point, if there is one, is that the starting weight seems healthy, alexxx seems convinced he's got "a stone" of fat to loose, is he sure? How does he know? just interested to know about his motivations is all.

I've no axe to grind, I'm just curious, is all

iDave I don't have a lot of weight to lose but fancy giving this a go from a health/riding performance point of view. What is the expected weight loss? I have around 3kg I'd like to lose.

Wife and son are off to spain for two weeks mid july then I head out so I have two weeks where I could really give this a go.

Alexx sent you an email for the plan, thanks.

maybe when he was lean and really fit he was roughly a stone lighter than he is now?

because I've got a stone of fat on my belly? its not rocket science, im certainly far from the leanest of guys, quite naturally large build granted that 12stone5 isnt heavy on the books but it depends what the 12stone5 is made up of.

No problem with you asking, just dont go trolling, im on it for 3 weeks, we shall see.

Had a look at the plan, lunch will need some thinking about. I ride to work and it's easy to carry my sandwiches in my back pocket of my jersey. Will need to think what I could take now.

I'm not trolling, as I said before, just curious, good luck with your diet 🙂

Gary, plastic bag/box full of chopped up nice stuff, tuna and a few chick peas? should fit in a back pocket and prob nicer than a sandwich

there are always solutions

[i]a few chick peas?[/i]

No good can come from eating this sort of stuff 😀 , I'd rather go without than eat ****ing chick peas.

thanks Dave, I love chick peas, lentils, etc.

Gary, plastic bag/box full of chopped up nice stuff, tuna and a few chick peas? should fit in a back pocket and prob nicer than a sandwich..

Just to add, if it's hot outside jerky or jamón serrano keep well and are nice on a long run/ride too.

I suppose I could be the 'control' for this experiment.

92.1kg Monday morning 🙂

Roper.

like the idea, good post earlier too 😉

Cheers.

S