I see the England "fans" are doing us proud again.

Stop with the provoked and goaded shite. As if England fans need any excuse. For a large number of them, this is what it’s all about. Time and time again they have proven they can’t be trusted, yet there is always someone else to blame. About time England is permanently banned from international competition.

Stop with the provoked and goaded shite. As if England fans need any excuse. For a large number of them, this is what it’s all about. Time and time again they have proven they can’t be trusted, yet there is always someone else to blame. About time England is permanently banned from international competition.

Many videos like this. There are Russian, French Ultras, plus local gangs targeting the English. I am not saying there are not English starting fights, but they are being targeted. These are the reports coming from UK police monitoring it seems.

Sins of the fathers and all that I guess.

Nice unbiased video reporting there.

whose bright idea was it to send england back to play in marseille? it’s a total **** up from the moment that decision was made.

It was nobodys decision, it was a random draw.

There are several videos on the Figaro site. The main problem according to French media is groups of England “fans” attacking the police directly. Russian and England fans seem to be getting on fine and things would probably be fine with the locals if the England “fans” refrained from racist chants.

Best thing for the tournament would be for Wales and Slovakia to go through from the group stages.

I was in Marseille in ’98 when it all kicked off. Me and a few mates who didn’t have tickets watched the game in a fan park surrounded by other fans and families. All bags searched for bottles and metal detectors on entry so everyone was ‘clean’. When England scored the Tunisian fans charged the English, bottles, knives, machetes the works. We managed to climb over the fence to get away before being forced back by French riot police. I’ve never been so scared in my life, and I am forever grateful for the couple that ushered us into their apartment to hide.

I’m not saying there aren’t some horrible individuals who go away with England (although some will probably be supporting their own team this time) but the attitude and methods employed back then from the French police were disgusting, it would appear they haven’t changed.

tournament would be for Wales and Slovakia to go through from the group stages.

That’s bollocks mate

That’s bollocks mate

Well, I’d quite happily see both teams’ supporters going home…but it would be unfair to do it by eliminating them now. So, hopefully, they’ll **** off home when their teams are out of it.

The best thing would be to cancel the tournament and send everyone home.

History and video says the England “fans” started the fights in 1998, Irelanst. Judge for yourselves:

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It only takes a few grade A [idiots] to make the English fans the bad guys, the police and rival fans could even be the instigators, but once pictures like these emerge, its not much of a defense

[Mod edited as I have a potty mouth]

Photo journos are concentrating on making the England fans seem worse than everyone else kimbers. 🙂

It’s good to see they’ve been working out. Usually they are more rotund.

I know it’s a cliche but even as a scotsman I feel genuinley sorry for the vast majority of decent England fans caught up in this shite. It’s a vicious circle with England fans going back decades that because of their reputation opposition thugs want to battle them. They dont help themselves though with their jingoistic chanting about the IRA , Isis or whatever vulgar song they can make up to antagonise the opposition. Take 50 right wing hooligans fueled on bevvy stick them in the sun and they can quickly get 200 or 300 weak minded young lads to follow them. These guys aren’t even old school football casuals who at least only battled their own they will punch and kick anyone who gets in their way.
Look at Wales today the polar opposite of the scum in Marseille and I’d put money on Ireland and Northern Ireland being the same. I’ve been abroad at Aberdeen games and seen what a handful of arseholes can do to ruin a good trip.

The England fans have clearly been the victims of crime here. The guy second from the right for example, he’s obviously had his belt stolen.

I’m fairly sure it’s impossible for a group of England fans to gather in numbers without becoming involved in violence, because of their reputation trouble will always find them.

Maybe if they stopped inviting trouble, it would stop looking for them.

I disagree Paul, It’s because they’ll always be a drunken Brit to throw a punch or a bottle, smash a window, kick a car, paw someone’s wife/girlfriend, push someone around… .

Edit: @km How would that work? Have you never been involved in a situation where through no fault of your own it’s all kicked off around you?

@Edukator, so at which point does that result as a load of local footy hooligans, turning up en masse for a scrap then?

Oh FFS some England fans are there for trouble, no excuses. And even if you think they are not, it’s not OK to get blind drunk and sing racist songs. Our country has a problem with drunkenness. I’ve lived in Cardiff and Nottingham and you see it every weekend.

Anyone caught being a nob should have their passport taken off them and never given back

I don’t think anyone disagrees, it’s just the fact that it’s not just an English problem is the bit that most people on here are choosing to miss. There’s **** from a whole host of nations turned up here to cause a bit of bother.

Plenty of French TV coverage today, quite a lot of fighting England “fans” vs Russian “fans” from what I saw. English guy in hospital with critical injuries after being hit with a metal bar (not Police). All very ugly.

Evening kick off in a Mediterainian resort with beer on tap all day – its not rocket science

I don’t think anyone disagrees, it’s just the fact that it’s not just an English problem is the bit that most people on here are choosing to miss. There’s **** from a whole host of nations turned up here to cause a bit of bother.

Exactly.

There is Zenit St. Petersburg Ultras’ stickers all round the place apparently.

its not much of a defense

What was someone saying about a mirror 😉

We have fan zones couldn’t we have hooligan zones? Stick some cameras up and sell the TV rights.

Street cleaners and chair repairers will be in great demand tonight.

also wonder what happens if one of those english thugs turns out to work at your company, dismisal, suspension or keeps their job, Discuss

Quoting a police offer who’s just caught fighting Brit, paraphrasing: “We’ve just filmed you fighting, have you been in trouble before?” – “no” – “you can go but if you’re involved again you’ll be put on record and the British police informed”.

Hardly heavy handed. I was chatting to a CRS out on the mtb earlier. They hate it because they are under orders not to fight back and simply take the shit thrown at them as they separate groups – he’s had steel balls, bottles, dirty nappies, cobbles, chairs etc. thrown at him. Making arrests is secondary to maintaining order and done opportunistically. 1000 police and 300 CRS in Marseille this evening.

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Is this a bit of a dig at Brexit? You know, land a kick at a ‘turncoat’?
Forget that, England are on the score sheet!

If England get through the group stage I assume many of these fools will be out of the UK on 23rd June. That would be a result.

Good point the remain camp worried about potential voters being at Glastonbury. Brexiters worrying that all those chanting Brexit songs in Marseille won’t have sorted out their postal votes 😉

It’s simple, surely..

Your fans behave like animals, your team gets removed from the competition.

Police spokeswoman: “Bande de sauvages” doesn’t need translating. Paraphrasing the rest: “It was predictable and we are well prepared, everything possible has been done to keep the two sides apart”.

Now four people “dans un état grave” (seriously injured) which isn’t that bad as it’s one down from “état critique”, and one Brit who was beaten about the head by a Russian with an iron bar is “entre la vie et la mort” (between life and death). Grim pic in the French Huffington Post which I won’t link.

1-1 excellent result for peace in Marseille.

Nice idea, though I would’ve thought the first thing the ultras would do is put on the opposing country’s kit.

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If England get through the group stage I assume many of these fools will be out of the UK on 23rd June. That would be a result.

Look on the bright side

Embarrassed the country yet again.

Why do watch football again?

Remember the friendship, unity and respect from the London Olympics?

Yes, Frankenstein. I spectated at the London Olympics and the atmosphere was great, but wouldn’t have gone into Marseille today.

football… “proleten sport” as i kept saying to my German colleagues when questioned as to me watching the game.

tbh, i’d rather watch a load of hooligans going at each other and then being battered by the Police than 90 minutes of football.

Do they have football (or sports) violence in America?

wilburt – yeah, there was a riot in Vancouver a couple of years ago over an ice hockey match/result! Not sure about the USA.