'I hate STW. Bunch of middle class whiney cockbags.'

A cockbag?? Who keeps it in a bag?? Do you think, by any chance he meant a ballbag but got a bit confused?

Students eh?

Luke is the poshest kid I’ve ever met.

Hope you’ve learned to shake hands like a man Lukey 😉

Students eh?

‘Kin students….

st andrews upper than upper class?

Middle class?

how very dare you.

*wanders off to mumsy and dadsy’s estate to look at the deer*

Highly recommend St Andrews for American baiting.A sterotype in every bar.

I’ve nothing to add to this, other than to say that you can always tell when you’re dealing with a grade one prick when it’s someone who uses (any) class as an insult.

Shut it Cougar you lower middle class prole.

you’re dealing with a grade one prick when it’s someone who uses (any) class as an insult.

A “grade one” prick ? …………how terribly middle-class of you to classify pricks according to their grade.

you’ve never been anywhere or done anything boy, until you’ve drunk a quality vintage wine from a working mans cockbag. That’s what Father used to say each night at 11 before he hit me. I miss father.

I resent the term ‘bunch’ surely we are a ‘posse’ or a hardcore ‘crew’ at least?

I always thought you were lower middle class.

ha ha.

Anyway, it raises a point – is your class who you are or where you came from?
Can you be a working class toff, or an upper class pit worker, or are you a toff or scrubber because your parents were?

it doesn’t matter. be happy with yerself.

That’s what Father used to say each night at 11 before he hit me. I miss father.

You were lucky.

When we were young, our father (God rest his soul) used to shoot us at point-blank range with a .44 Magnum. In the eye. Before dismembering us with a B+Q Own Brand non-reciprocating chain saw, then dissolving our remains in Hydroflouric Acid.

But you never saw us complain, oh no.

And if you were to tell that to the youth of today….

Shut it Cougar you lower middle class prole.

Guilty as charged.

A “grade one” prick ? …………how terribly middle-class of you to classify pricks according to their grade.

I initially wrote “class one” and my ironyometer exploded, so I changed it.

:-)aaahhh well at least he has helped me to sort out my identity crisis 🙂

My best mate was at St Andrews and it is horrible,ruined by the R&A and the Uni.
strip golf/associated tourism and the uni out of the economy and it’d be methil with a bigger beach…

I do believe here in jockshire the term is bawbag, fannybaws is also acceptable as a term of similar endearment ya bunch o fannies

Class.

it raises a point – is your class who you are or where you came from?

I’d expect that for most people, one is considerably easier to define than the other.

I was born in a Lancashire cotton town to a family of farmers. I couldn’t have been born more working class if I popped out bedecked with a flat cap.

These days I’m a “senior engineer” for a leading IT Managed Services / Telecommunications company (by royal appointment); my partner is a Social Media Consultant; I drive a two year old Mondeo Titanium. Yet, I still live in a, frankly, shitty terrace in East Lancs and I’m earning about half what I should be.

I went to University. I was too busy spodding to come away with anything of value. I mountain bike, I rock climb, I run, I power kite, I’ve jumped out of aeroplanes, I’ve snow-bladed, I like to read novels, I like rock music, I enjoy sci-fi and fantasy. I’ve been known to read comic books. In a past life I’ve run around in forests with rubber swords (albeit briefly), I’ve GMed RPGs, I play board games.

I spend a quantity of my offensively poor income on gigs, holidays, gadgets and technology, films and music and video games and assorted media. I’m currently nurturing an interest in photography and trying to work out whether to buy a DSLR or not. I’ve built and launched model rockets. For a while I rode a Honda CB500, till I couldn’t afford to rebuild it and it had to go.

I had a World of Warcraft habit for a couple of years, but I’m clean now. I don’t smoke. I don’t do drugs (and apart from trying dope and not seeing the point, I never have). I drink too much. I like single malts, real ale and good red wine. I’ve spent (*cough*, considerably) over fifty pounds on a bottle of whisky before now.

I don’t do politics. I don’t know whether I’m left wing or right wing, the terms are alien to me, and I’ve been accused of being both at various times. I don’t do religion, I believe that it’s a man-made invention to control the masses borne out of a need to provide easy answers to difficult questions in a time of ignorance, and I despair that otherwise intelligent people still fall for it in the 21st Century.

I love my (small) family, my partner, my friends. I have a sense of justice, I hate theft, vandalism, litter and other first world problems. I want to live somewhere where I can leave my bike outside overnight and it’ll still be there in the morning. I actually live somewhere where I get twitchy if my bike’s out of sight for longer than 30 seconds without a lock on it.

So. The million dollar question is.

Anyone care to tell me what class I am? Cos y’know, I’m buggered if I know.

Reading that back, one thing that is clear is that I appear to have ADD… (-:

Are farmers working class?

I stopped when i reached

Mondeo

That told me all I needed to know if i wanted to know anything about how to categorise you socially

I have no idea of class distinctions, in the wonderful world of tazzy there are only three grades:
1 people i like,
2 people I don’t like
3 people I haven’t formed an opinion off yet due to insufficient data.

my world view like me is a very simple happy little place.

Cougar
These days I’m a “senior engineer” for a leading IT Managed Services / Telecommunications company (by royal appointment); my partner is a Social Media Consultant; I drive a two year old Mondeo Titanium. Yet, I still live in a, frankly, shitty terrace in East Lancs and I’m earning about half what I should be.

I went to University.

sounds pretty middle middle to me

Working class honest hard working etc you would have earned more money and left east lancs if you were more aspirational. Middle class folk always want to better themselves [ or be better than common folk] semi detached garage foreign holidays etc.

Stoner I dont think you can ever truly leave your class behind you. Is lord prescott in the same class as hereditary peers?

You are working class if you work.

do people honestly define themselves by some out dated hierarchical system?

can you see no difference between yourself and Prince charles then? We dont have an aristocracy any more or hereditary peers? Have a look at the privately educated millionaire cabinet and tell me we are classless and free
I wish we did not but they are [largely]accurate labels still.

some out dated hierarchical system

In what way is it “outdated”…………..do we now live in a classless society ?

Or are you suggesting that the system is now somehow different ? If so, how is it different to how it was 50 or 100 years ago ?

I see no difference between myself or anybody we’re all apes, we all gurn when having a poo anything else is mere smoke and mirrors.

everyone is of equal value because it doesn’t matter what you pretend to be we all die in a very short time, so why waste your brief existence finding things to hate about others rather than just being happy within yourself?

man you are messed up

Was he the one who use to plead poverty and beg for stuff?

Judging by his event sponsors he’s rather good at beging!
Clicky

I see no difference between myself or anybody we’re all apes, we all gurn when having a poo anything else is mere smoke and mirrors.

I’m with yer there Tazz. All the way. You can allow yourself to be put in a box, compartmentalised, categorised, labelled, if you want to. Many people find this safe and comfortable. Gives them a sense of place, belonging, grounding.

I mean, the likes of Stoner like to see me as scum; I’m sure it helps them feel better about themselves, that they are somehow ‘superior’ to me, but I’m not really bothered. ‘Class’ is all about insecurity and the perpetuation of the myth that folk are somehow different according to birth, location, background, wealth etc etc. we’re not. It’s all a construct, of course. Designed by those with power, in order to maintain power and keep the rest of us meek and subservient. As Tazzy points out, we all get the runs or a bit bunged up from time to time; the act of defecation is a great leveller.

I mean, even Her Maj Queen Liz (Gawd bless ‘er) gets a right eye-popping ‘headshaker’ on now and then, I bet. Might even be prone to the odd prolapse now and then at her age, I’d imagine. It’s very possible.

Must be all that rich food…

Are farmers working class?

Aren’t they? In Lancashire? I’m not talking about the Bristol Young Farmers’ Institute here.

That told me all I needed to know if i wanted to know anything about how to categorise you socially

And that response provides me with reciprocal information. Mind you, it’s a very -nice- Mondeo.

you would have earned more money and left east lancs if you were more aspirational.

Or willing to take more risks, maybe.

do people honestly define themselves by some out dated hierarchical system?

Evidently some people do, or this thread wouldn’t exist.

Personally, I don’t believe that ‘class’ is relevant any more and that this whole hybrid “upper middle” business is an attempt to retro-fit modern socio-economics into a no-longer appropriate mould. Which, I guess, is where I was coming from in my wordy post back there.

The concept of class is an attempt to fit an entire country into three groups. That’s going to work. What class is my next door neighbour, Mr Khan?

everyone is of equal value

Oh I see, different classes don’t exist because that wouldn’t fit into your own personal moral code.
I didn’t realise it was that easy, ie, you could simply “wish away” different social classes.

But hang on, you said it was an “out dated hierarchical system” …… so they did once exist ? When did they cease to exist then ?

Let me guess…………when you decided that they no longer existed ? 💡

Have a look at the privately educated millionaire cabinet and tell me we are classless and free

Actually, I think only about half the cabinet were privately educated. This may be the fewest for many years, including labour governments

ernie you seem an angry grumpy little soul, have you tried herbal tea or some breathing exercises?

I take it from your stance your “class” is a defining part of your character construct hence your blind adherence to a role allocated to you by the will of another?

happy tranquil dolphin image hmmmmm calm

What class is my next door neighbour, Mr Khan?

Mr Khan? He is Community Leader!! 😀

is he a pharmacist? or perhaps own a shop or does he run a taxi firm or teach, maybe he makes kites unfortunately I cannot tell from his name now if it was Ralph and pronounced Raif and ended with Nathaniel Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes i could have a better guess.

elfin if you want to think your upbringing and class somehow mirrors Prince charles and his off spring then that is your choice. Reality proves this is not a pure meritocracy so class does matter we can measure social mobility for example – call it advantage if you like rather than class. it is why,no matter what you did, you wont live in a crown castle and he always would

EDIT CM does this radicall drop [lets ignore whether this bit is true of false for the moment] to about half suggest the end of class then ?

Excellent response I assume being classless just means you can post random images rather than defend your view

Elfin excellent use of Mr Khan 😆

tazzymtb – Member

ernie you seem an angry grumpy little soul

Because I question whether social classes can be simply “wished away” by waving a magic wand ?

Or is there another reason for your suggestion that I’m “an angry grumpy little soul” ?

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BTW, RE : I take it from your stance ……

I haven’t taken any “stance” in this thread. However I am aware that different social classes do exist.

But that’s probably because I don’t live with the fairies.