I could pretend this isn't a rant but it is… gnaaaarly enduro muppet

You know old people with a tartan trolley and support stockings and a zimmer frame and a hearing aid and thick glasses and hairy warts and scotty dog and beige anoraks shoes out the back of the Daily Mail weekend magazine and that smell of wee and are always in the way?

That’s you that is.

It’s so easy to let a faster rider past I don’t understand why you wouldn’t.

I’ve had people clearly deliberately chase me down who have been at the start of a run as I’ve trundled past – they can piss-off! Had some guy do it me 3 times in one ride :/

Have also had people try to do it and get a bit out of their depth 🙂

It’s annoying if you do let them pass and then have no trouble keeping up with them – often easier to follow then lead; like driving at night.

I don’t quite follow the first bit, but if it’s people being dicks after you’ve passed them then fair enough.

I’m thinking more of people who appear behind you out of nowhere, so clearly riding faster.

Is there etiquette?
Been caught up put me head down and gapped the catcher. That’s all bets off in my book.

As said above I love following my mate fairly close, or anyone that’s reasonable quick, but I wouldn’t push past or want them to get our the way unless I feel I’m massively faster; which israrely the case. I’ll not try to be a dick and pass or shout arrogantly that I want past.

Two sides to each story therefore rarely a need to rant

Rather than block their passage, why not just toss yourself off?

thestabiliser
You know old people with a tartan trolley and support stockings and a zimmer frame and a hearing aid and thick glasses and hairy warts and scotty dog and beige anoraks shoes out the back of the Daily Mail weekend magazine and that smell of wee and are always in the way?

That’s you that is.

wow, i’m 20 years younger, just like that! #oldskoolcomedyphrases

I dislike people on my wheel as much as I dislike being on the wheel of another. In either situation I pull over and wait for some space.

Without wanting to sound like a hippy, I don’t consider the bit of trail that I’m on as being my own, but I do consider the enjoyment of my own ride as being my down to me.

Stop riding so slowly?

You stop – he passes, both interrupted but both enjoy rest of run.

You don’t stop (you’re a dick), you stress for whole run, he has crap run riding at pace of old woman.

Pretty sure you’re the dick here. Just to reiterate.

I’ve always made a point of actively asking anyone who catches me if they want to pass. A quick “do you and to squeeze by mate” makes it a pleasant, easy manoeuvre that I’m in control of but the other rider knows I’m aware.

I’d never “shout” to get past at a trail centre, I’d consider that pretty rude. Mostly if I come up behind someone slower I pull over for a bit and let them get ahead. If some one catches me, I just pull over, I wouldn’t want to spoil both our enjoyment by holding them up

Should have let the faster rider through – think of it like racing: if you’re passing give a quick shout & a thanks after, but to hold someone up deliberately? Rather petty & selfish.

A bit like sitting in the outside lane & refusing to move back once you’ve completed you’re overtaking manoeuvre…

I will give it a couple of seconds and then ask if the person behind wants to go past. Then follow them! Nothing quite like following someone a bit faster to get you to realise that line x or line y is possible when you might have plumped for slower line z on your own.
This i do for racing as well as busy trails/trailcentres. i can’t imagine it costs me more than a couple of seconds, which hopefully i get back pushing a bit harder chasing the faster rider and seeing that it is possible to ride this or that bit a bit quicker on this or that line. Then everybody’s happy.

I will give it a couple of seconds and then ask if the person behind wants to go past. Then follow them! Nothing quite like following someone a bit faster to get you to realise that line x or line y is possible when you might have plumped for slower line z on your own.

Sound advice, following a faster rider can be hugely beneficial.

Best motorcycle ride I ever had was following a mate who is a motorcycle paramedic and has completed the police motorcycle training course….ive never ridden so fast and yet so safely before, his forward vision and planning was awesome and his road positioning was perfect. I still try to remember as much of what I learnt that day and implement it into my riding still today.

How was he gnaaaarly? I see no gnar in this incedent.

I caught a slower group yesterday so backed off and gave them a gap. Out of nowhere 5 goobers on Halfords bikes (at least one of whom was sporting a baseball cap on backwards) pushed past me somewhat brusquely. So, more waiting and some indignation.

About an hour later I caught the goobers on a DH section and was feeling less charitable ……passed them like a Eurofighter passing some pigeons. Fair play to them, they all shouted encouragement, “go on lad” f***ing right” etc etc which was nice. Even the guy I berated for not wearing a helmet. All except the leader who heard his mate shouting, looked back, saw me and tried to pull away, pedaling furiously. Ahhhh the thrill of the hunt 😈

You were both at a trail centre.

It’s always easier to follow somebody, next time pull over then give chase and pile the pressure on, watch the mistakes begin… Or not

I love that vid 🙂

Yep bad form for you not pulling over. I tend to pass lots of people at places like afan, very rare to meet some stubborn arse who won’t move over. I don’t call out immediately as I don’t want to surprise or scare the person, if they call back, I tend to say “no rush, when it is safe, I’m having a rest” and then thank them as I go past.

I once had a guy completely refuse to let me past despite polite request and try to race me, on whites I think, quite clear he was on the edge of his abilities, so I let a little gap go and was rewarded to see said numpty go straight over the bars. he was ok. Was so close to saying he should have let me past.

And unless it is a proper steep fast section there is always a safe place to pass, you just stop pedalling and move over….

You were both at a trail centre.

Well spotted Hora. The rest of us almost missed that key detail.

Op which trail centre was this? Degla?

chakaping – Member
You were both at a trail centre.
Well spotted Hora. The rest of us almost missed that key detail.

His point is still valid.

Quite.

Arse so I’m supposed to be watching for people coming from behind as well as in front..whilst still attempting not to crash …… Now you tell me..,better get one of them little helmet mirrors.

I tend to pull over as I don’t kid myself I have any riding ability other than luck and as said by others following a good riders very worthwhile..

DId have a funny experience where I came round a corner behind some new riders and one managed to slide off trail and another slid into a tree….made sure they were alright but was glad hadn’t asked them to move over or would have felt I’d have caused the carnage…

Edit no I didn’t force them off the track in my haste – I was well back.

My ride was ruined yesterday also. I was slowed down all the way down the bridleway off Grindleton Fell.
Bloody sheep

Speed limits to be enforced at trail centres. Also a helmet traffic light system.

Like skiing should be simple

Responsibility is with the uphill rider – simple

Ditto, if you know someone is behind you and you are slowing them down, just pull over – basic manners

So chose between responsibility and manners. Nothing else required

I once caught a rider at Cannock, and they shouted back “bl**dy hell mate, you on a 29er?” Laughed so hard i very nearly crashed! 😆

I would never really shout at someone to get past, but would wait for them to pull over or if not just follow them down.

There is always somewhere to pull over at trail centres.

Quite, if I caught someone up on a trail I would just chill out and follow them down, if they let me past cool, if they didn’t it is still cool.

I would be surprised if they built up some strange fantasy in their head that about enduro gnar warriors chasing them down the trails.

Maybe the op needs to find a hobby he enjoys, hard to believe someone who jumps so quickly into a seething rage at something so trivial is having fun.

Interesting responses, DT78’s the twattyest.

Anyone fgot a link to that video of the French? rider barging past folk on a downhill?

Show me the gnaaaaar.

This is simple case of being a decent person and/or ‘trail management’.

There are always exceptions but…..don’t set off on a section straight after some other person – then you are less likely to have an impact on yours or their section. Most sections at centres are fairly short so its hardly a hardship….why should someone have to pull over for you if they are focusing in on completing an important section to them?

Be tolerant.

🙁 Am disappoint mine is’nt the twattiest.

…..don’t set off on a section straight after some other person – then you are less likely to have an impact on yours or their section.

And without so much as a cursory glance, some bloke and his bird rides straight pass and straight down the stretch of trail you’ve been waiting to clear. 😈

‘on your left mate’

or

‘track’

His point is still valid.

It may be, but I’ve no idea what it is.

As others have said, it’s basic good manners to pull in and let the faster rider past.
It doesn’t make you less manly, but holding someone up for ages makes you look like a bit of a weeman.

Yes, the person behind can wait and let a gap build up. I’ve done this once on a long TC descent (Golspie) but you wait for ages several times on a run, each time quickly catching the knobber who resolutely refuses to pull over.

bigrich – Member
‘on your left mate’

or

‘track

If you shout ‘track’ at me you’ll be in for the slowest ride of your life. 😉

We shouldnt feed Chakaping